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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/07/11/emotional-f-wittage/comment-page-1/#comment-396</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2003 05:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want to spoil anything if you haven&#039;t finished the Wings of the Dove and haven&#039;t read it before, but I don&#039;t know if I&#039;d agree that Kate isn&#039;t manipulative.  She and Merton come up with a pretty nasty scheme, IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I don&#8217;t want to spoil anything if you haven&#8217;t finished the Wings of the Dove and haven&#8217;t read it before, but I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;d agree that Kate isn&#8217;t manipulative.  She and Merton come up with a pretty nasty scheme, <span class="caps">IMO</span>.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/07/11/emotional-f-wittage/comment-page-1/#comment-395</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2003 01:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point you wish to make is rather problematic for you give with the left hand and take with the right.  If Isabel should have chosen another (of course not Caspar!) then her refusal of that suitor and her choice of the cad is blameworthy.  If James worshipped her then we would need to see a bit more affirmation in the novel of her choice and her character.  She had two decent offers (Lord what&#039;s-his-face and Ralph T).  She rejected both and went with the brute.  Is that not an acknowledgement from James that his character--with her head too far into the clouds--chose poorly and must now live with that choice?  The end of the book isn&#039;t a crucifixion and a resurrection but an acknowledgement of failure.  She doesn&#039;t remain with her husband but leaves him.  Since worshippers are predisposed to perceiving the best in the objects of their worship, this cannot be applied to James&#039;s treatment of Izzy.  She&#039;s made a mistake, we are meant to see this mistake, and she is forced to live with this very serious mistake.  How is this worship?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The point you wish to make is rather problematic for you give with the left hand and take with the right.  If Isabel should have chosen another (of course not Caspar!) then her refusal of that suitor and her choice of the cad is blameworthy.  If James worshipped her then we would need to see a bit more affirmation in the novel of her choice and her character.  She had two decent offers (Lord what&#8217;s-his-face and Ralph T).  She rejected both and went with the brute.  Is that not an acknowledgement from James that his character&#8212;with her head too far into the clouds&#8212;chose poorly and must now live with that choice?  The end of the book isn&#8217;t a crucifixion and a resurrection but an acknowledgement of failure.  She doesn&#8217;t remain with her husband but leaves him.  Since worshippers are predisposed to perceiving the best in the objects of their worship, this cannot be applied to James&#8217;s treatment of Izzy.  She&#8217;s made a mistake, we are meant to see this mistake, and she is forced to live with this very serious mistake.  How is this worship?</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely agree that Isabel blew it.  (Me, I&#039;d have gone for beautiful but doomed Ralph Touchett.)  But I also think James is pretty emphatic that he&#039;s not punishing her.  She picks Osmond because she thinks his cultural discernment denotes high-mindedness, she wishes to do something noble with her wealth, and out of a maternal feeling for Pansy.  Of course she is thwarted on all counts; he is nothing more than a mean-minded snob who commits the crassest offence of marrying her for cash, and blocks her from being a parent to his daughter.  But her mistake is based on the purest and most generous of motives, and James is careful to illustrate how she sticks to these principles through thick and thin.  So, rather than punishing her, I think he simply worships her.I&#039;d love to see the film of it with Nicole Kidman - she&#039;s the only actress I can imagine doing justice to the part.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I definitely agree that Isabel blew it.  (Me, I&#8217;d have gone for beautiful but doomed Ralph Touchett.)  But I also think James is pretty emphatic that he&#8217;s not punishing her.  She picks Osmond because she thinks his cultural discernment denotes high-mindedness, she wishes to do something noble with her wealth, and out of a maternal feeling for Pansy.  Of course she is thwarted on all counts; he is nothing more than a mean-minded snob who commits the crassest offence of marrying her for cash, and blocks her from being a parent to his daughter.  But her mistake is based on the purest and most generous of motives, and James is careful to illustrate how she sticks to these principles through thick and thin.  So, rather than punishing her, I think he simply worships her.I&#8217;d love to see the film of it with Nicole Kidman &#8211; she&#8217;s the only actress I can imagine doing justice to the part.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/07/11/emotional-f-wittage/comment-page-1/#comment-393</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Archer blew it.  She picked the wrong man forthe wrong reasons.  Wasn&#039;t James condemning her for her foolishness?  She had three other suitors but went for Mr. Mysterious-and-Vaguely-Dark.  He turns out to be a cad and a brute.  That seems to indicate a rather significant failure upon her part, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>But Archer blew it.  She picked the wrong man forthe wrong reasons.  Wasn&#8217;t James condemning her for her foolishness?  She had three other suitors but went for Mr. Mysterious-and-Vaguely-Dark.  He turns out to be a cad and a brute.  That seems to indicate a rather significant failure upon her part, no?</p>
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