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	<description>Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made</description>
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		<title>By: The Lonewacko Blog</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/07/14/goodbye-englands-rose/comment-page-1/#comment-622</link>
		<dc:creator>The Lonewacko Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2003 19:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;One might add that Diana&#8217;s ex-mother-in-law is neither Canadian, Australian, Barbadian, nor Papuan, but she is, nevertheless, Queen of Canada, Australia, Barbados, and Papua New Guinea&quot;Intuitively, that makes a lot of sense.BTW, the Franklin Mint even has a Gray Davis connection:  http://www.jillstewart.net//issue0710.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;One might add that Diana&#8217;s ex-mother-in-law is neither Canadian, Australian, Barbadian, nor Papuan, but she is, nevertheless, Queen of Canada, Australia, Barbados, and Papua New Guinea&#8221;Intuitively, that makes a lot of sense.<span class="caps">BTW</span>, the Franklin Mint even has a Gray Davis connection:  <a href="http://www.jillstewart.net//issue0710.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.jillstewart.net//issue0710.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/07/14/goodbye-englands-rose/comment-page-1/#comment-621</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2003 06:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One might add that Diana&#039;s ex-mother-in-law is neither Canadian, Australian, Barbadian, nor Papuan, but she is, nevertheless, Queen of Canada, Australia, Barbados, and Papua New Guinea</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>One might add that Diana&#8217;s ex-mother-in-law is neither Canadian, Australian, Barbadian, nor Papuan, but she is, nevertheless, Queen of Canada, Australia, Barbados, and Papua New Guinea</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/07/14/goodbye-englands-rose/comment-page-1/#comment-620</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2003 06:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because Diana was not (and Charles is not) Welsh, does not mean that she was not Princess of Wales (and he is not Prince of Wales).  After all, George I was a German who was King of Great Britain, and William III, James I, and William I were, respectively, a Dutchman, a Scot, and a Norman who were King of England.  Jean Bernadotte was a Gascon, but that didn&#039;t stop him from becoming King Carl XIV Johan of Sweden and King Carl III Johan of Norway.  And so forth.Further, one might note that Diana&#039;s status as Welsh is even more irrelevant than Charles&#039;s.  After all, royal consorts are, historically, pretty rarely from the country of which their husband is the monarch.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Just because Diana was not (and Charles is not) Welsh, does not mean that she was not Princess of Wales (and he is not Prince of Wales).  After all, George I was a German who was King of Great Britain, and William <span class="caps">III</span>, James I, and William I were, respectively, a Dutchman, a Scot, and a Norman who were King of England.  Jean Bernadotte was a Gascon, but that didn&#8217;t stop him from becoming King Carl <span class="caps">XIV </span>Johan of Sweden and King Carl <span class="caps">III </span>Johan of Norway.  And so forth.Further, one might note that Diana&#8217;s status as Welsh is even more irrelevant than Charles&#8217;s.  After all, royal consorts are, historically, pretty rarely from the country of which their husband is the monarch.</p>
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		<title>By: alkali</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/07/14/goodbye-englands-rose/comment-page-1/#comment-619</link>
		<dc:creator>alkali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2003 23:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I believe that the Franklin Mint is the finest manufacturer and direct marketer of granny crap currently operating today.&lt;/i&gt;Does this reflect fond memories of some granny crap manufacturer of days gone by?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>I believe that the Franklin Mint is the finest manufacturer and direct marketer of granny crap currently operating today.</i>Does this reflect fond memories of some granny crap manufacturer of days gone by?</p>
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		<title>By: rea</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/07/14/goodbye-englands-rose/comment-page-1/#comment-618</link>
		<dc:creator>rea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2003 22:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;that&#8217;s the Princess of Wales as immortalised in the song, &#8220;Goodbye England&#8217;s Rose&#8221;, god damn you Elton John&quot;&quot;Prince[ss] of Wales&quot; is just a title stolen by the [bloody] English back around the reign of Edward I, anyway--Diana wasn&#039;t Welsh, despite your claim. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;that&#8217;s the Princess of Wales as immortalised in the song, &#8220;Goodbye England&#8217;s Rose&#8221;, god damn you Elton John&#8221;&#8220;Prince[ss] of Wales&#8221; is just a title stolen by the [bloody] English back around the reign of Edward I, anyway&#8212;Diana wasn&#8217;t Welsh, despite your claim.</p>
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		<title>By: laughing boy</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/07/14/goodbye-englands-rose/comment-page-1/#comment-617</link>
		<dc:creator>laughing boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Granny crap. Heh. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Granny crap. Heh.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Leader</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/07/14/goodbye-englands-rose/comment-page-1/#comment-616</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Leader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Argh, the first half of the above comment was intended for a different article entirely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Argh, the first half of the above comment was intended for a different article entirely.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Leader</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/07/14/goodbye-englands-rose/comment-page-1/#comment-615</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Leader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a common saying among quantitative MBAs, Quality proponents, and so on, that &quot;you can&#039;t improve what you don&#039;t measure&quot;.  What they often overlook is that it&#039;s very common to improve what&#039;s being measured, at the expense of everything else that isn&#039;t.Oh, and I like the term &quot;granny crap&quot;, for all that it&#039;s offensive to grannies (and probably crap, too).   But does the term really cover enough ground?  Does it really apply to (say) commemorative plates with images of sainted NASCAR drivers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>There&#8217;s a common saying among quantitative MBAs, Quality proponents, and so on, that &#8220;you can&#8217;t improve what you don&#8217;t measure&#8221;.  What they often overlook is that it&#8217;s very common to improve what&#8217;s being measured, at the expense of everything else that isn&#8217;t.Oh, and I like the term &#8220;granny crap&#8221;, for all that it&#8217;s offensive to grannies (and probably crap, too).   But does the term really cover enough ground?  Does it really apply to (say) commemorative plates with images of sainted <span class="caps">NASCAR</span> drivers?</p>
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		<title>By: B. Cavanaski</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/07/14/goodbye-englands-rose/comment-page-1/#comment-614</link>
		<dc:creator>B. Cavanaski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is &#039;granny crap.&#039; Interestingly progressive &amp; democratic. Tell it to Frankenthaler and O&#039;Keeffe.  And me. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The problem is &#8216;granny crap.&#8217; Interestingly progressive &#038; democratic. Tell it to Frankenthaler and O&#8217;Keeffe.  And me.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/07/14/goodbye-englands-rose/comment-page-1/#comment-613</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Granny crap me arse. To you, my mate, those are precious future collectibles, available only for a period of six months in a limited edition of 150,000.   I&#039;ve heard somewhere or another (pure hearsay) that one of the sadder parts of Antique Roadshow, is dealing with the old dears who&#039;ve spent dollops on Franklin Mint product and similar tat, and are convinced that they&#039;re sitting on a small fortune ... Although, for similar reasons to dsquared, I&#039;ll chime in with his final assessment of the Franklin Mint. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Granny crap me arse. To you, my mate, those are precious future collectibles, available only for a period of six months in a limited edition of 150,000.   I&#8217;ve heard somewhere or another (pure hearsay) that one of the sadder parts of Antique Roadshow, is dealing with the old dears who&#8217;ve spent dollops on Franklin Mint product and similar tat, and are convinced that they&#8217;re sitting on a small fortune &#8230; Although, for similar reasons to dsquared, I&#8217;ll chime in with his final assessment of the Franklin Mint.</p>
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