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By: The Poor Man » It’s beginning to look a lot like Kipmas

The Poor Man » It’s beginning to look a lot like Kipmas — Sun, 04 Dec 2005 21:17:26 +0000

[...] With all the focus on individual wingnut acheivement, it’s easy to forget that wingnuttery isn’t about “ME ME ME” – it’s about people coming together. It’s about community. It’s about recognizing that you aren’t the only undersexed guy sitting around his condo terrified that Cruz Bustamante is going to lead a Chicano rebellion conquoring the Southwest United States for Mexico – it’s about seeing that Michelle Malkin agrees with you, and so do the nice people at America Patrol, Lowell Ponte, FOX News, Rush Limbaugh, his buddy Mickey Kaus, his buddy Glenn Reynolds, and then having everbody linking and cross-linking to everybody else and setting up 50 billion “blogbursts” and “carnivals” and specialty websites until your load is, at long last, well and truly blown. Because if there’s one thing Kipmas teaches us about wanking, it’s that it’s always better when you friends are there to lend a helping hand. Our Kipmas festivities march on, as we unveil the nominees for the Soggy Biscuit Award for the Year’s Best Cicle Jerk! [...]

By: Duke

Duke — Fri, 05 Sep 2003 07:06:41 +0000

“ratherworried” brings up the point that nobody has explored: what do the original inhabitants of “Azatlan” think about their land being reclaimed by the Spanish invaders?

By: Blogreader

Blogreader — Thu, 04 Sep 2003 20:48:12 +0000

Ted, I thought your article was very fair and balanced. I live in California and even though I’m not a Bustamante supporter per se, I was wondering about this issue. I agree with you that this is a Bullshit Story. However, you bring up the fact that the story is politically motivated, which I agree with. My question then is, why isn’t anyone looking at Dubya’s affiliation with the Skull and Bones Society; and how that might have effected his pattern of lying and reveal his true agenda? Curious.

By: Ratherworried

Ratherworried — Thu, 04 Sep 2003 17:25:33 +0000

Ratherworried: I have a two-part question for you. 1) Do you really think Cruz Bustamente has a secret agenda to make Calfornia knuckle under to Latinos? and, if your answer to part 1 is yes, 2) Are you high? The answer is no…which leads me to your question…Does it matter to you why he has joined a racist organization? I assume you might have a problem with a Republican joining a radical right wing group that espoused creating a ‘whites-only’ enclave. Despite the fact that the politician might have no intention of ever trying to implement the organization’s position. Is this your best defense for this outrageous behavior? Good. Now go crawl back under your rock.

By: S.A. Smith

S.A. Smith — Thu, 04 Sep 2003 07:52:19 +0000

One more thing, does anyone know whether MEChA speaks to the people who populated “Aztlan” before a bunch of Spandiards happened along and told them they were now living in Mexico?

By: S.A. Smith

S.A. Smith — Thu, 04 Sep 2003 07:41:37 +0000

Forget whether MEChA is a racist organization. I think one could argue either way. However, in a state where illegal immigration from Mexico is an issue of increasing importance, it’s absurd to call it a “bullshit” or trumped-up issue. I’m a life-long Democrat (more moderate these days) and California citizen and I think it’s a matter of credibility. I’d like to ask my more left-leaning friends, if a white Republican had revealed himself to be a casual user of the “N-word,” as Bustamante has, would the issue of his attitude on race, in the most diverse of states, also be a “bullshit” issue? Just be honest. Bustamante is getting something of a pass by most of the more liberal media outlets (the Chron/Times/Bee) because they don’t want to do excessive damage to his chances of winning; nor do they want to be perceived as being anti-latino or anti-immigration, which is a real danger in California for anyone who expresses the un-PC view on such things.

By: Xrlq

Xrlq — Thu, 04 Sep 2003 02:13:06 +0000

Rea: The Right Wing™ didn’t create MEChA or draft its constitution or its racist slogans. Blame MEChA for its own racist tendencies; don’t blame its critics for merely pointing them out. And your creative translation of “mestizo” is way off the mark. By identifying themselves as “mestizos,” they are simply pointing out how their own race came into being, and then only if they are consciously thinking about the etymology of the word (which, in all likelihood, they aren’t). They’re certainly not advocating the “mixing” of any races on a going-forward basis. Russell: You owe it to the readers to either (1) explain what part of the First Amendment you think protects MEChA (or anyone else) from being criticized by Tacitus (or anyone else), or (2) admit that you were on crack when you made that extremely silly comment.

By: Outlandish Josh

Outlandish Josh — Wed, 03 Sep 2003 22:16:32 +0000

BAM! Well written, well researched, well timed. You are a scholar and a gentleman. Cheers to you.

By: Andrew Ian Dodge

Andrew Ian Dodge — Wed, 03 Sep 2003 22:06:28 +0000

The hypocrisy on show in this piece and in some of the comments is staggering…

By: John

John — Wed, 03 Sep 2003 21:47:51 +0000

Yes, minority was a poor choice of words. I should have said “oppressed”. As far as letting people off the hook for hating one, i agree, any kind of racially motivated hatred is wrong. And the idea that only white people can be racists is silly. But racism by white people is a lot more charged than racism by non-white people in American society, just because, in the past, white people have oppressed non-white people, and not vice versa. Further, my point had to do with racial solidarity, rather than racism per se. Racial solidarity among black people was what produced the civil rights movement, at least in part. To say that this is morally comparable to “white pride” movements which are basically just fronts for white supremacism and racism is offensive.

By: james

james — Wed, 03 Sep 2003 20:53:17 +0000

Here is a website claiming to be the MEChA National Webpages. There is also a National Constitution. If this site is genuine, the MEChA organization is centrally organized. WebSite Please draw your own conclusions.

By: Dexter Descarte

Dexter Descarte — Wed, 03 Sep 2003 20:24:44 +0000

Seriously though, if Bustamante is really a member of what is certainly… [an] organization that has now or in the past advanced a race based agenda in favor of segregation… Uh, like the United States? Both major political parties? The Southern Baptist Convention? The Catholic Church? We’re all members of at least one organization that “has now or in the past advanced a race based agenda in favor of segregation”.

By: Rob Lyman

Rob Lyman — Wed, 03 Sep 2003 15:51:14 +0000

John, I’m not prepared to let anyone off the hook for hating me. If someone with a similar skin tone to me did something bad to someone with a similar skin town to some other guy, that doesn’t justfy that other guy’s hate for me in any way, shape, or form. Hate is still hate; racism is still racism; racialism is still racialism.

By: Another Duncan

Another Duncan — Wed, 03 Sep 2003 13:35:31 +0000

Seems to me that a mutual aid and self-help group organised by and for an ehtnic minority is viewed by some members of the American right as a hate filled racist conspiracy. Projection anyone?

By: Brian Weatherson

Brian Weatherson — Wed, 03 Sep 2003 05:39:19 +0000

From the department of interesting analogies department: The Serbs were a minority group in Bosnia, so I guess their attempt at separatism wasn’t nearly as bad as Apartheid. Er, the whites were also a minority group in South Africa, at least if ‘minority’ here just means smaller, which is the only way to make the statement about the Serbs come out true. So I’ve got no idea what the argument is here. It’s sloppy terminology (at best) to use ‘minority’ to mean ‘oppressed’, but that’s pretty clearly what’s meant in these contexts – or so I’ve always assumed.