Comments on: RIAA Radar http://crookedtimber.org/2003/10/07/riaa-radar/ Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:47:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Terry http://crookedtimber.org/2003/10/07/riaa-radar/comment-page-1/#comment-5462 Terry Wed, 08 Oct 2003 14:18:37 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=396#comment-5462 Thank God I can still buy my Neutral Milk Hotel CDs... if they'd ever release another one. Thank God I can still buy my Neutral Milk Hotel CDs… if they’d ever release another one.

]]> By: ben wolfson http://crookedtimber.org/2003/10/07/riaa-radar/comment-page-1/#comment-5461 ben wolfson Wed, 08 Oct 2003 00:10:55 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=396#comment-5461 We recently got the most recent Decembrists CD ("Castaways and Cutouts") at <a href=http://whpk.uchicago.edu>WHPK</a>. It's pretty good, especially the song "Here I Dreamt I Was An Architect". (We can work out compensation for this later, zizka.) We recently got the most recent Decembrists CD (“Castaways and Cutouts”) at WHPK. It’s pretty good, especially the song “Here I Dreamt I Was An Architect”. (We can work out compensation for this later, zizka.)

]]> By: Zizka http://crookedtimber.org/2003/10/07/riaa-radar/comment-page-1/#comment-5460 Zizka Tue, 07 Oct 2003 22:21:36 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=396#comment-5460 Commercial break: Included on the list are several albums by my son's former band, The Decembrists. He only plays on one of the albums and I'm not sure which one. Moody, literate alternative music. Commercial break: Included on the list are several albums by my son’s former band, The Decembrists. He only plays on one of the albums and I’m not sure which one. Moody, literate alternative music.

]]> By: Ben http://crookedtimber.org/2003/10/07/riaa-radar/comment-page-1/#comment-5459 Ben Tue, 07 Oct 2003 22:02:33 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=396#comment-5459 Helping someone realize (and only hopefully realize) their flaws by increasing their sales? How backwards is that? I'm going to start directly giving the bully at school my kid's lunch money, so he will realize what he is doing is wrong and isn't going to work. Don't you think that when the RIAA argues about profit loss and pirating, that it's point will be moot when proof is shown from thousands of other labels that they are going the opposite direction (in both mentality and profit)? Helping someone realize (and only hopefully realize) their flaws by increasing their sales? How backwards is that? I’m going to start directly giving the bully at school my kid’s lunch money, so he will realize what he is doing is wrong and isn’t going to work. Don’t you think that when the RIAA argues about profit loss and pirating, that it’s point will be moot when proof is shown from thousands of other labels that they are going the opposite direction (in both mentality and profit)?

]]> By: freddy http://crookedtimber.org/2003/10/07/riaa-radar/comment-page-1/#comment-5458 freddy Tue, 07 Oct 2003 22:01:46 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=396#comment-5458 So, an ignorant sheltered youth who gets all their music from MTV hasn't heard of any bands that aren't in the RIAA. Wow. So, an ignorant sheltered youth who gets all their music from MTV hasn’t heard of any bands that aren’t in the RIAA. Wow.

]]> By: Niky Ring http://crookedtimber.org/2003/10/07/riaa-radar/comment-page-1/#comment-5457 Niky Ring Tue, 07 Oct 2003 21:19:04 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=396#comment-5457 So a whole bunch of obscure bands aren't on RIAA? Wow. So a whole bunch of obscure bands aren’t on RIAA? Wow.

]]> By: Robert Nagle http://crookedtimber.org/2003/10/07/riaa-radar/comment-page-1/#comment-5456 Robert Nagle Tue, 07 Oct 2003 21:03:25 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=396#comment-5456 IN my essay <a href="http://www.sharethemusicday.com">sharethemusicday </a>, I explain why the overwhelming majority of mp3's out there are available for free. Legally! No kidding! Vivendi's mp3.com charges musicians money to share their files for free. It's crazy. I argue for a voluntary compensation model, which admittedly might appear to some as idealistic. But it reduces transaction costs related to shipping a physical product. In a world where the majority of music is available for free, and where barriers to copyright infringement are minimal, a voluntary compensation model offers in my opinion the best hope of compensating artists. As technical publisher Tim Oreilley pointed out, obscurity is the bigger threat to writers (and by extension, artists), than piracy. IN my essay sharethemusicday , I explain why the overwhelming majority of mp3’s out there are available for free. Legally! No kidding! Vivendi’s mp3.com charges musicians money to share their files for free. It’s crazy. I argue for a voluntary compensation model, which admittedly might appear to some as idealistic. But it reduces transaction costs related to shipping a physical product. In a world where the majority of music is available for free, and where barriers to copyright infringement are minimal, a voluntary compensation model offers in my opinion the best hope of compensating artists. As technical publisher Tim Oreilley pointed out, obscurity is the bigger threat to writers (and by extension, artists), than piracy.

]]> By: William http://crookedtimber.org/2003/10/07/riaa-radar/comment-page-1/#comment-5455 William Tue, 07 Oct 2003 18:05:01 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=396#comment-5455 They're super! They're furry! They're AN-I-MALS! They’re super! They’re furry! They’re AN-I-MALS!

]]> By: Karmakin http://crookedtimber.org/2003/10/07/riaa-radar/comment-page-1/#comment-5454 Karmakin Tue, 07 Oct 2003 17:47:36 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=396#comment-5454 I actually strongly disagree with the RIAA boycott mentality. Here's why: Boycotting the RIAA completely only gives them more ammunition to lobby the governments and create more restrictive laws. As well, it reinforces in the mind of the average person that P2P is killing them. If sales actually increased, like they did in the first few Napster years, then the RIAA would have way less ammunition. They would be, in fact, neutered. What do I say? Get what you like. In fact, if it is RIAA supported, all the better. Let's INCREASE their sales. Let them explain that in the day and age of P2P. Let them realize that P2P isn't a replacement for music purchasing. It's a replacement for the radio for crying out loud. Radio sucks. That's where the problem is, and that's why people use P2P. At least most people I know. Actually, the best thing you can do is support boot-friendly RIAA bands. As well, go to many live concerts, as that is where they do make their money. What this will do, is take the ball out of the RIAAs court once and for all. Their beligerent actions will only look very silly in the face of increasing sales. I actually strongly disagree with the RIAA boycott mentality. Here’s why: Boycotting the RIAA completely only gives them more ammunition to lobby the governments and create more restrictive laws. As well, it reinforces in the mind of the average person that P2P is killing them. If sales actually increased, like they did in the first few Napster years, then the RIAA would have way less ammunition. They would be, in fact, neutered. What do I say? Get what you like. In fact, if it is RIAA supported, all the better. Let’s INCREASE their sales. Let them explain that in the day and age of P2P. Let them realize that P2P isn’t a replacement for music purchasing. It’s a replacement for the radio for crying out loud. Radio sucks. That’s where the problem is, and that’s why people use P2P. At least most people I know. Actually, the best thing you can do is support boot-friendly RIAA bands. As well, go to many live concerts, as that is where they do make their money. What this will do, is take the ball out of the RIAAs court once and for all. Their beligerent actions will only look very silly in the face of increasing sales.

]]> By: Ben http://crookedtimber.org/2003/10/07/riaa-radar/comment-page-1/#comment-5453 Ben Tue, 07 Oct 2003 14:15:18 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=396#comment-5453 Also, as another way to find music without supporting the RIAA, if you search for any album, there is a link under every result called "Find similar albums that are non_RIAA", which (surprisingly) will give you the 10 most similar albums that are not under the control of the RIAA. Also, as another way to find music without supporting the RIAA, if you search for any album, there is a link under every result called “Find similar albums that are non_RIAA”, which (surprisingly) will give you the 10 most similar albums that are not under the control of the RIAA.

]]> By: Chun the Unavoidable http://crookedtimber.org/2003/10/07/riaa-radar/comment-page-1/#comment-5452 Chun the Unavoidable Tue, 07 Oct 2003 08:00:46 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=396#comment-5452 <P>Brayden, <p>"Washed-up" implies that something was once good. "Relics" also has the wrong connotations. <p>"No talent ass-clown," remember.

Brayden,

“Washed-up” implies that something was once good. “Relics” also has the wrong connotations.

“No talent ass-clown,” remember.

]]> By: brayden http://crookedtimber.org/2003/10/07/riaa-radar/comment-page-1/#comment-5451 brayden Tue, 07 Oct 2003 07:31:09 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=396#comment-5451 Interesting set of artists. You have some of my indie favorites (including Interpol, the New Pornographers, and Frank Black) sitting alongside some washed-up relics (Michael Bolton and Kenny Loggins; where is John Tesh?). Interesting set of artists. You have some of my indie favorites (including Interpol, the New Pornographers, and Frank Black) sitting alongside some washed-up relics (Michael Bolton and Kenny Loggins; where is John Tesh?).

]]> By: eszter http://crookedtimber.org/2003/10/07/riaa-radar/comment-page-1/#comment-5450 eszter Tue, 07 Oct 2003 07:27:11 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=396#comment-5450 These are excellent and important resources, thanks for posting! These are excellent and important resources, thanks for posting!

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