http://crookedtimber.org/2003/11/07/inside-iraq/ Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made Thu, 24 May 2012 20:35:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 http://crookedtimber.org/2003/11/07/inside-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-7667 dipnut Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:21:36 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=550#comment-7667 Thanks jb, that's exactly what I was going to say. Thanks jb, that’s exactly what I was going to say.

]]> http://crookedtimber.org/2003/11/07/inside-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-7666 josh Fri, 07 Nov 2003 16:59:03 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=550#comment-7666 Whoah, there, jb old man! If you're actually serious, well, your post reflects some serious problems: 1) Isn't it just a tad presumptious, nay arrogant, to believe that you, many miles away, have a better understanding of the situation in Iraq than someone who's actually been there, traveled around, speaks the language, etc.? 2) Isn't it a tad presumptious and arrogant, and also, I'd say, disturbingly redolent of a certain inchoate racism, to assume, first, that you know the minds of ALL Iraqis, and, second, that all Iraqis will resort to terrorism? 3) I'm not sure what you mean by right-wing individualism -- um, economic individualism? If so, what exactly is the relevance here? As for moral individualism, while now sadly captured by the right in a simplistic Randian form, I like to think of it as originally the property of the left, and its still with the individualist centre-left that I most identify. And I'd say that what we need now is hardly the obliteration of individualism (as your own lumping together of the entire Iraqi people suggests) 4)When you call for the obliteration of the individualism of the right-wing as the means to peace in this world, are you endorsing violence, or just adopting violent rhetoric? The latter seems to me in poor taste and judgment given the current situation. The former -- well, at that point it seems conversation becomes impossible. Whoah, there, jb old man! If you’re actually serious, well, your post reflects some serious problems: 1) Isn’t it just a tad presumptious, nay arrogant, to believe that you, many miles away, have a better understanding of the situation in Iraq than someone who’s actually been there, traveled around, speaks the language, etc.? 2) Isn’t it a tad presumptious and arrogant, and also, I’d say, disturbingly redolent of a certain inchoate racism, to assume, first, that you know the minds of ALL Iraqis, and, second, that all Iraqis will resort to terrorism? 3) I’m not sure what you mean by right-wing individualism—um, economic individualism? If so, what exactly is the relevance here? As for moral individualism, while now sadly captured by the right in a simplistic Randian form, I like to think of it as originally the property of the left, and its still with the individualist centre-left that I most identify. And I’d say that what we need now is hardly the obliteration of individualism (as your own lumping together of the entire Iraqi people suggests) 4)When you call for the obliteration of the individualism of the right-wing as the means to peace in this world, are you endorsing violence, or just adopting violent rhetoric? The latter seems to me in poor taste and judgment given the current situation. The former—well, at that point it seems conversation becomes impossible.

]]> http://crookedtimber.org/2003/11/07/inside-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-7665 josh Fri, 07 Nov 2003 16:58:57 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=550#comment-7665 Whoah, there, jb old man! If you're actually serious, well, your post reflects some serious problems: 1) Isn't it just a tad presumptious, nay arrogant, to believe that you, many miles away, have a better understanding of the situation in Iraq than someone who's actually been there, traveled around, speaks the language, etc.? 2) Isn't it a tad presumptious and arrogant, and also, I'd say, disturbingly redolent of a certain inchoate racism, to assume, first, that you know the minds of ALL Iraqis, and, second, that all Iraqis will resort to terrorism? 3) I'm not sure what you mean by right-wing individualism -- um, economic individualism? If so, what exactly is the relevance here? As for moral individualism, while now sadly captured by the right in a simplistic Randian form, I like to think of it as originally the property of the left, and its still with the individualist centre-left that I most identify. And I'd say that what we need now is hardly the obliteration of individualism (as your own lumping together of the entire Iraqi people suggests) 4)When you call for the obliteration of the individualism of the right-wing as the means to peace in this world, are you endorsing violence, or just adopting violent rhetoric? The latter seems to me in poor taste and judgment given the current situation. The former -- well, at that point it seems conversation becomes impossible. Whoah, there, jb old man! If you’re actually serious, well, your post reflects some serious problems: 1) Isn’t it just a tad presumptious, nay arrogant, to believe that you, many miles away, have a better understanding of the situation in Iraq than someone who’s actually been there, traveled around, speaks the language, etc.? 2) Isn’t it a tad presumptious and arrogant, and also, I’d say, disturbingly redolent of a certain inchoate racism, to assume, first, that you know the minds of ALL Iraqis, and, second, that all Iraqis will resort to terrorism? 3) I’m not sure what you mean by right-wing individualism—um, economic individualism? If so, what exactly is the relevance here? As for moral individualism, while now sadly captured by the right in a simplistic Randian form, I like to think of it as originally the property of the left, and its still with the individualist centre-left that I most identify. And I’d say that what we need now is hardly the obliteration of individualism (as your own lumping together of the entire Iraqi people suggests) 4)When you call for the obliteration of the individualism of the right-wing as the means to peace in this world, are you endorsing violence, or just adopting violent rhetoric? The latter seems to me in poor taste and judgment given the current situation. The former—well, at that point it seems conversation becomes impossible.

]]> http://crookedtimber.org/2003/11/07/inside-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-7664 Lawrence Krubner Fri, 07 Nov 2003 16:26:55 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=550#comment-7664 "<i>There will not be peace in this world until the dangerous individualism of the right-wing is obliterated.</i>" It is gramatically correct English, but I still can't decipher the meaning. “There will not be peace in this world until the dangerous individualism of the right-wing is obliterated.” It is gramatically correct English, but I still can’t decipher the meaning.

]]> http://crookedtimber.org/2003/11/07/inside-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-7663 Keats Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:45:28 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=550#comment-7663 I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or if you really mean that. I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or if you really mean that.

]]> http://crookedtimber.org/2003/11/07/inside-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-7662 jb Fri, 07 Nov 2003 14:46:15 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=550#comment-7662 Bah, Anectodal evidence for an apoligiser for the Bush regime. Every single one of those children will eventually be blowing themselves up in order to destroy the US. There will not be peace in this world until the dangerous individualism of the right-wing is obliterated. Bah, Anectodal evidence for an apoligiser for the Bush regime. Every single one of those children will eventually be blowing themselves up in order to destroy the US. There will not be peace in this world until the dangerous individualism of the right-wing is obliterated.

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