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		<title>By: jamie</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/11/09/this-sporting-life/comment-page-1/#comment-7687</link>
		<dc:creator>jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This lack of national sporting allegiance is sometimes accompanied by a more wholesale national disindentification where, either attracted by the more romantic nature of the Celtic nations or repelled by postcolonial guilt, people who are plainly acculturated as English seek to identify as “really” something else (on the grounds that this or that ancestor was Irish, Scottish or Welsh).&quot;As a completely non-celtic Stoke City fan, my tenderness towards the Irish team during the nineties was derived from the fact that they were effectively a representative non-premiership (with one or two exceptions) English league side. They represented the kind of journeyan players who the average football going fan went to see every week. Tonmy Cascarino would wander aimlessly between the halfway line and 18 yard box and I&#039;d think, &quot;yes, I&#039;ve seen this so many times before...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;This lack of national sporting allegiance is sometimes accompanied by a more wholesale national disindentification where, either attracted by the more romantic nature of the Celtic nations or repelled by postcolonial guilt, people who are plainly acculturated as English seek to identify as &#8220;really&#8221; something else (on the grounds that this or that ancestor was Irish, Scottish or Welsh).&#8221;As a completely non-celtic Stoke City fan, my tenderness towards the Irish team during the nineties was derived from the fact that they were effectively a representative non-premiership (with one or two exceptions) English league side. They represented the kind of journeyan players who the average football going fan went to see every week. Tonmy Cascarino would wander aimlessly between the halfway line and 18 yard box and I&#8217;d think, &#8220;yes, I&#8217;ve seen this so many times before&#8230;&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Chris Brooke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad to see that my disinclination to support England in the World Cup has prompted so much discusison, though I don&#039;t think Chris gets the reasons quite right. More on this subject on my blog soon, probably.With reference to D-squared&#039;s question: according to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sports-quotes.com/rugby/international_duty.html&quot;&gt;this page&lt;/a&gt; it was Philip Toynbee who said something like that: but the bomb has to be placed in the West Car Park, it&#039;s for an international (rather than specifically for the Varsity match) and then only for one generation. None of which is incompatible with the thought that blowing up the Varsity match may save the country from fascism for _two_ generations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;m glad to see that my disinclination to support England in the World Cup has prompted so much discusison, though I don&#8217;t think Chris gets the reasons quite right. More on this subject on my blog soon, probably.With reference to D-squared&#8217;s question: according to <a href="http://www.sports-quotes.com/rugby/international_duty.html">this page</a> it was Philip Toynbee who said something like that: but the bomb has to be placed in the West Car Park, it&#8217;s for an international (rather than specifically for the Varsity match) and then only for one generation. None of which is incompatible with the thought that blowing up the Varsity match may save the country from fascism for <em>two</em> generations.</p>
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		<title>By: dsquared</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/11/09/this-sporting-life/comment-page-1/#comment-7685</link>
		<dc:creator>dsquared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t remember who it was who suggested that if someone detonated a nuclear bomb at Twickenham on the day of the Varsity Match, they would set back the prospects of Fascism in this country by two generations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I can&#8217;t remember who it was who suggested that if someone detonated a nuclear bomb at Twickenham on the day of the Varsity Match, they would set back the prospects of Fascism in this country by two generations.</p>
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		<title>By: Thlayli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thlayli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Meanwhile, the Gunners remain the only undefeated team in all the FA leagues.&lt;/i&gt;Because apparently there&#039;s a rule that Thierry Henry is not to be called offside under any circumstances....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Meanwhile, the Gunners remain the only undefeated team in all the FA leagues.</i>Because apparently there&#8217;s a rule that Thierry Henry is not to be called offside under any circumstances&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: yabartleby</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/11/09/this-sporting-life/comment-page-1/#comment-7683</link>
		<dc:creator>yabartleby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason this lefty Englishman will never support an English rugby team is simple class hatred. Look at the people who play the game. Look at the crowd at &quot;Twickers&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The reason this lefty Englishman will never support an English rugby team is simple class hatred. Look at the people who play the game. Look at the crowd at &#8220;Twickers&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: derrida derider</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/11/09/this-sporting-life/comment-page-1/#comment-7682</link>
		<dc:creator>derrida derider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, take it from me (an Australian) - the reason no-one supports the poms in the world cup is that they are &lt;b&gt;boring&lt;/b&gt;.  When they stop kicking and start running they&#039;ll get more supporters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Nah, take it from me (an Australian) &#8211; the reason no-one supports the poms in the world cup is that they are <b>boring</b>.  When they stop kicking and start running they&#8217;ll get more supporters.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Welshman will be supporting France. I&#039;d like to see a Northern Hemisphere team put the Southern down a peg, but wild horses couldn&#039;t get me to support England.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This Welshman will be supporting France. I&#8217;d like to see a Northern Hemisphere team put the Southern down a peg, but wild horses couldn&#8217;t get me to support England.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/11/09/this-sporting-life/comment-page-1/#comment-7680</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2003 01:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DMM,Indeed. That was a golden opportunity for Heskey, which, had he made would have been his 100th in the Premiership.Meanwhile, the Gunners remain the only undefeated team in all the FA leagues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><span class="caps">DMM</span>,Indeed. That was a golden opportunity for Heskey, which, had he made would have been his 100th in the Premiership.Meanwhile, the Gunners remain the only undefeated team in all the FA leagues.</p>
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		<title>By: dmm</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/11/09/this-sporting-life/comment-page-1/#comment-7679</link>
		<dc:creator>dmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2003 21:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liverpool lost also because Heskey is unable to stay on his feet anywhere inside the 18-yard box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Liverpool lost also because Heskey is unable to stay on his feet anywhere inside the 18-yard box.</p>
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		<title>By: metafizum</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/11/09/this-sporting-life/comment-page-1/#comment-7678</link>
		<dc:creator>metafizum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2003 20:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at least stevie g. signed until 2007... or is this just a rumour? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>at least stevie g. signed until 2007&#8230; or is this just a rumour? ;)</p>
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		<title>By: dismembermentplanfan</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/11/09/this-sporting-life/comment-page-1/#comment-7677</link>
		<dc:creator>dismembermentplanfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2003 20:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for you. And I will support NZ after my poor paddies got hammered, on the basis that those boys look damn fine in their black strips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Good for you. And I will support NZ after my poor paddies got hammered, on the basis that those boys look damn fine in their black strips.</p>
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