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		<title>By: Classic Liberal</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/11/12/greatest-marxists-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-7977</link>
		<dc:creator>Classic Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,you&#039;re absolutely right.  I am a &quot;petty-minded troll&quot; and I apologize.  It was wrong for me to make a smartassed comment about the world&#039;s greatest Marxists, just as it would be wrong for an atheist to go to a Christian weblog or a skeptic to go to an astrology blog to make snarky comments there.  I promise it won&#039;t happen again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Chris,you&#8217;re absolutely right.  I am a &#8220;petty-minded troll&#8221; and I apologize.  It was wrong for me to make a smartassed comment about the world&#8217;s greatest Marxists, just as it would be wrong for an atheist to go to a Christian weblog or a skeptic to go to an astrology blog to make snarky comments there.  I promise it won&#8217;t happen again.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So why can&#039;t Marxists write about Marxism?  To paraphrase the master himself in the Theses on Feuerbach, &quot;The philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways; the point is to interpret the interpretations.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>So why can&#8217;t Marxists write about Marxism?  To paraphrase the master himself in the Theses on Feuerbach, &#8220;The philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways; the point is to interpret the interpretations.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Others not mentioned:Irving Howe, Max Schachtman. Youse are too Euro-centric by half.And, if we included ex-Marxists who have been influential, you could include Irving Kristol &amp; Tom Sowell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Others not mentioned:Irving Howe, Max Schachtman. Youse are too Euro-centric by half.And, if we included ex-Marxists who have been influential, you could include Irving Kristol &#038; Tom Sowell.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Bertram</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Bertram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, I&#039;ll pass on the midgets, I&#039;m thinking of making one of the world&#039;s most petty-minded trolls though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Nah, I&#8217;ll pass on the midgets, I&#8217;m thinking of making one of the world&#8217;s most petty-minded trolls though.</p>
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		<title>By: Classic Liberal</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/11/12/greatest-marxists-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-7973</link>
		<dc:creator>Classic Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After you&#039;ve finished compiling the list of greatest marxists, how about a list of the world&#039;s tallest midgets?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>After you&#8217;ve finished compiling the list of greatest marxists, how about a list of the world&#8217;s tallest midgets?</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Muir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Muir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Louis Blanc.His _History of Ten Years_ wasn&#039;t just well-written history, it was well-written history with punch and bite and knees to the groin; Louis Philippe himself called it &quot;a battering ram against loyalty&quot; (to the monarchy of Louis Philippe, that is).  Blanc&#039;s _History of the Revolution of 1848_ is good history, good writing, and a fascinating insider account too, while his _History of the French Revolution_ was the canonical work on the subject for two generations, and (I&#039;m told) is still widely read.Now, you could argue that Louis Blanc wasn&#039;t &quot;Marxist&quot;, since most of his political writings predated most of Marx&#039;s.  (His career as a political and economic theorist was pretty much done by 1850.)  In fact, you could almost call Marx a &quot;Blancist&quot;; he borrowed from Blanc&#039;s ideas heavily.  Marx turned against Blanc after 1851, sure, but he never returned the intellectual silverware.Blanc was a very good historical writer, and he was a historian who espoused (and whose writing was driven by) what are generally considered &quot;Marxist&quot; concepts.  The fact that quite a few of these concepts predated Marx by a generation or more  is hardly Blanc&#039;s fault.Doug M.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Louis Blanc.His <em>History of Ten Years</em> wasn&#8217;t just well-written history, it was well-written history with punch and bite and knees to the groin; Louis Philippe himself called it &#8220;a battering ram against loyalty&#8221; (to the monarchy of Louis Philippe, that is).  Blanc&#8217;s <em>History of the Revolution of 1848</em> is good history, good writing, and a fascinating insider account too, while his <em>History of the French Revolution</em> was the canonical work on the subject for two generations, and (I&#8217;m told) is still widely read.Now, you could argue that Louis Blanc wasn&#8217;t &#8220;Marxist&#8221;, since most of his political writings predated most of Marx&#8217;s.  (His career as a political and economic theorist was pretty much done by 1850.)  In fact, you could almost call Marx a &#8220;Blancist&#8221;; he borrowed from Blanc&#8217;s ideas heavily.  Marx turned against Blanc after 1851, sure, but he never returned the intellectual silverware.Blanc was a very good historical writer, and he was a historian who espoused (and whose writing was driven by) what are generally considered &#8220;Marxist&#8221; concepts.  The fact that quite a few of these concepts predated Marx by a generation or more  is hardly Blanc&#8217;s fault.Doug M.</p>
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		<title>By: Lukas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lukas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For his support of the concept of the economic substructure of society:Jared Diamond</description>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I seem to recall Conrad Barwa mentioning Halliday, Hobsbawm, Stedman Jones, Carr, and Robin Blackburn in the comments. Also, Ophelia (who so far as I know hasn&#039;t submitted a list, but should ...) may be happy to know that I&#039;ve gotten a submission for Deutscher. I&#039;ve also gotten one for Hobsbawm. And I&#039;ve made up my own list of favourite Marxist historians, to be posted when all the results are in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well, I seem to recall Conrad Barwa mentioning Halliday, Hobsbawm, Stedman Jones, Carr, and Robin Blackburn in the comments. Also, Ophelia (who so far as I know hasn&#8217;t submitted a list, but should &#8230;) may be happy to know that I&#8217;ve gotten a submission for Deutscher. I&#8217;ve also gotten one for Hobsbawm. And I&#8217;ve made up my own list of favourite Marxist historians, to be posted when all the results are in.</p>
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		<title>By: jacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I left Thompson off &lt;a href=&quot;http://remes.blogspot.com/2003_11_01_remes_archive.html#106849716792504568&quot;&gt;my list&lt;/a&gt; simply because I forgot him, and I felt terrible for it after Josh pointed it out to me.  Although within the context of only five Marxists, I&#039;m not sure whom I would have removed to fit him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yeah, I left Thompson off <a href="http://remes.blogspot.com/2003_11_01_remes_archive.html#106849716792504568">my list</a> simply because I forgot him, and I felt terrible for it after Josh pointed it out to me.  Although within the context of only five Marxists, I&#8217;m not sure whom I would have removed to fit him.</p>
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		<title>By: Ophelia Benson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ophelia Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah and Isaac Deutscher, too.  Though someone did mention him, I seem to recall - oh, now who was that - oh I know!  I did!And was roundly ignored, which tells me that Deutscher is forgotten, which if true is a terrible thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yeah and Isaac Deutscher, too.  Though someone did mention him, I seem to recall &#8211; oh, now who was that &#8211; oh I know!  I did!And was roundly ignored, which tells me that Deutscher is forgotten, which if true is a terrible thing.</p>
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