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	<title>Comments on: Genre fiction redux</title>
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	<description>Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made</description>
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		<title>By: Arthur D. Hlavaty</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/11/26/genre-fiction-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-9226</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthur D. Hlavaty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worpole is a bit off on his dates. Trade paperbacks started in the late 40s with Anchor and Vintage, then mass-market size but priced a bit higher and with less garish covers (many of Anchor&#039;s were drawn by Edward Gorey). By the early 60s Serious Lit (Hemingway, Faulkner) had moved up to the trade pbs, but almost any new novel would appear in mass-market pb a year after publication. Then the standards for direct-to-trade started getting more inclusive: John Barth, then Philip Roth and Gore Vidal, by now John Gregory Dunne and Andrew Vachss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Worpole is a bit off on his dates. Trade paperbacks started in the late 40s with Anchor and Vintage, then mass-market size but priced a bit higher and with less garish covers (many of Anchor&#8217;s were drawn by Edward Gorey). By the early 60s Serious Lit (Hemingway, Faulkner) had moved up to the trade pbs, but almost any new novel would appear in mass-market pb a year after publication. Then the standards for direct-to-trade started getting more inclusive: John Barth, then Philip Roth and Gore Vidal, by now John Gregory Dunne and Andrew Vachss.</p>
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		<title>By: des</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/11/26/genre-fiction-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-9225</link>
		<dc:creator>des</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the great joys of French publishing is that the cheap and cheerful &quot;poche&quot; format still accommodates Serious Books, from Descartes through Rousseau to Lévi-Strauss and Barthes.Plus, they are pocket-sized, cheap and the covers are often suitably tacky.  Vive l&#039;amazon-france!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>One of the great joys of French publishing is that the cheap and cheerful &#8220;poche&#8221; format still accommodates Serious Books, from Descartes through Rousseau to L&#233;vi-Strauss and Barthes.Plus, they are pocket-sized, cheap and the covers are often suitably tacky.  Vive l&#8217;amazon-france!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Weiner</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/11/26/genre-fiction-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-9224</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Weiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to resurrect a comment I made on the other thread--one of the writers who succeeded in the mass market seems to be Ms Shirley Hazzard herself. There&#039;s a Playboy Paperbacks edition of Transit of Venus with a sexy cover (which has nothing to do with the novel--I think they even get the heroine&#039;s hair color wrong). And in fact it had precisely the beneath-me effect you describe--one of my friends was astonished that a book with that cover could also have the jacket quote, &quot;A nearly perfect novel.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;d like to resurrect a comment I made on the other thread&#8212;one of the writers who succeeded in the mass market seems to be Ms Shirley Hazzard herself. There&#8217;s a Playboy Paperbacks edition of Transit of Venus with a sexy cover (which has nothing to do with the novel&#8212;I think they even get the heroine&#8217;s hair color wrong). And in fact it had precisely the beneath-me effect you describe&#8212;one of my friends was astonished that a book with that cover could also have the jacket quote, &#8220;A nearly perfect novel.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Nielsen Hayden</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/11/26/genre-fiction-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-9223</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Nielsen Hayden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Publishers, by and large, would be delighted to keep selling those books in grocery stores and other non-bookstore outlets.  It&#039;s been changes in what the mass-market distributors (who are primarily in the periodical business) will take that have driven publishers to repackage those kinds of works into &quot;trade paperback.&quot;  (Also encouraged by bookstores, who never liked cheap mass-market books all that much.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Publishers, by and large, would be delighted to keep selling those books in grocery stores and other non-bookstore outlets.  It&#8217;s been changes in what the mass-market distributors (who are primarily in the periodical business) will take that have driven publishers to repackage those kinds of works into &#8220;trade paperback.&#8221;  (Also encouraged by bookstores, who never liked cheap mass-market books all that much.)</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funnily enough, John Holbo &quot;posted&quot;:http://examinedlife.typepad.com/johnbelle/2003/11/dissipation_and.html on this self-same issue yesterday, with a particularly juicy piece of Hemingway cover-tat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Funnily enough, John Holbo <a href="<a" title="">posted</a> href=&#8221;http://examinedlife.typepad.com/johnbelle/2003/11/dissipation_and.html&#8221; rel=&#8221;nofollow&#8221;>http://examinedlife.typepad.com/johnbelle/2003/11/dissipation_and.html on this self-same issue yesterday, with a particularly juicy piece of Hemingway cover-tat.</p>
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