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	<title>Comments on: Parsifal</title>
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	<description>Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Otsuka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Otsuka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Ms Arafat&#039; is virtually an anagram for &#039;Amfortas&#039;. (What you actually get is &#039;Amfartas&#039;, but close enough.) So, in the jihad version, Amfortas should be depicted as a suffering Arafat under house arrest and forced by his Western persecutors to wear drag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8216;Ms Arafat&#8217; is virtually an anagram for &#8216;Amfortas&#8217;. (What you actually get is &#8216;Amfartas&#8217;, but close enough.) So, in the jihad version, Amfortas should be depicted as a suffering Arafat under house arrest and forced by his Western persecutors to wear drag.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Bertram</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Bertram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks very much for the comments here. Especially to Thomas Dent - your thoughts on Act 2 will heighten my appreciation next time I listen.I&#039;ve never seen the Syberberg film -- and I&#039;m not sure I want to -- I suppose the actors are miming to  the pre-recorded sound of Jordan &amp; co because the singers don&#039;t play the parts in the film.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thanks very much for the comments here. Especially to Thomas Dent &#8211; your thoughts on Act 2 will heighten my appreciation next time I listen.I&#8217;ve never seen the Syberberg film&#8212;and I&#8217;m not sure I want to&#8212;I suppose the actors are miming to  the pre-recorded sound of Jordan &#038; co because the singers don&#8217;t play the parts in the film.</p>
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		<title>By: Vinteuil</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/12/14/parsifal/comment-page-1/#comment-10731</link>
		<dc:creator>Vinteuil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Armin Jordan version mentioned by Chris Bertram is the soundtrack to a 1982 film directed by Syberberg which is available on DVD. Visually striking at times, but definitely odd. Nazi paraphernalia, two different actors playing Parsifal (one male, one female)--that sort of thing.The only video competition is a more traditional Met production from 1993 directed by Levine. Some good singing, but there&#039;s nothing in the staging that you&#039;re likely to want to sit still for more than once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The Armin Jordan version mentioned by Chris Bertram is the soundtrack to a 1982 film directed by Syberberg which is available on <span class="caps">DVD</span>. Visually striking at times, but definitely odd. Nazi paraphernalia, two different actors playing Parsifal (one male, one female)&#8212;that sort of thing.The only video competition is a more traditional Met production from 1993 directed by Levine. Some good singing, but there&#8217;s nothing in the staging that you&#8217;re likely to want to sit still for more than once.</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/12/14/parsifal/comment-page-1/#comment-10730</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate the CD recommendations, but opera is for watching, not just listening.  Any recommended DVDs of this work?       </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I appreciate the CD recommendations, but opera is for watching, not just listening.  Any recommended DVDs of this work?</p>
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		<title>By: TomD</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2003/12/14/parsifal/comment-page-1/#comment-10729</link>
		<dc:creator>TomD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2003 10:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the point of the red dress would be *precisely* the sexual - Oedipal - tension. Kundry&#039;s seduction makes powerful use of Parsifal&#039;s relationship with his mother, so perhaps the enormous red dress was meant as a womb-symbol.Your travesty fails not because it&#039;s about jihadis, but because it leaves out Wagner&#039;s central character Amfortas, (at least the one with which he most identified) and the central motto &quot;Through pity knowing&quot;. The climactic moment of Act 2 isn&#039;t so much about Parsifal&#039;s relationship with Kundry as that with Amfortas. Unfortunately this psychological point is difficult to bring out on stage. The &#039;womb-symbol&#039; would have to become a &#039;wound-symbol&#039;, which a ten-foot red dress isn&#039;t really in a position to do. Also, the music of the second half of Act 2 is for me somewhat disjointed, lacking continuity and logical progression. My guess is that Wagner was relying on the music to deal with the entire, highly-convoluted psychological situation, but to judge by the usual misunderstanding of why Parsifal doesn&#039;t go for Kundry it didn&#039;t really work.Tristan act 2, by contrast, works musically 100 percent, but again usually fails to explain its highly complicated philosophy and psychology to the audience. Wagner&#039;s instincts as a composer were much better than his attempts at being a philosopher, and I think Parsifal has a bit too much of the latter.The point of Act 3 is not that the camp gets &quot;back to normal&quot; but that its religion is  *reformed* - away from the rather hearty belligerence of the Act 1 hymns and the self-flagellation of the interim to - well, what?  It&#039;s not quite clear, but for the opera to have a point, something has to have changed. The symbolism of a spear being used for healing should be a powerful one, but Wagner doesn&#039;t really tell us what the Knights will be getting up to in the future. A mass wedding of Knights and Flower-maidens would be a good start, methinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I thought the point of the red dress would be <strong>precisely</strong> the sexual &#8211; Oedipal &#8211; tension. Kundry&#8217;s seduction makes powerful use of Parsifal&#8217;s relationship with his mother, so perhaps the enormous red dress was meant as a womb-symbol.Your travesty fails not because it&#8217;s about jihadis, but because it leaves out Wagner&#8217;s central character Amfortas, (at least the one with which he most identified) and the central motto &#8220;Through pity knowing&#8221;. The climactic moment of Act 2 isn&#8217;t so much about Parsifal&#8217;s relationship with Kundry as that with Amfortas. Unfortunately this psychological point is difficult to bring out on stage. The &#8216;womb-symbol&#8217; would have to become a &#8216;wound-symbol&#8217;, which a ten-foot red dress isn&#8217;t really in a position to do. Also, the music of the second half of Act 2 is for me somewhat disjointed, lacking continuity and logical progression. My guess is that Wagner was relying on the music to deal with the entire, highly-convoluted psychological situation, but to judge by the usual misunderstanding of why Parsifal doesn&#8217;t go for Kundry it didn&#8217;t really work.Tristan act 2, by contrast, works musically 100 percent, but again usually fails to explain its highly complicated philosophy and psychology to the audience. Wagner&#8217;s instincts as a composer were much better than his attempts at being a philosopher, and I think Parsifal has a bit too much of the latter.The point of Act 3 is not that the camp gets &#8220;back to normal&#8221; but that its religion is  <strong>reformed</strong> &#8211; away from the rather hearty belligerence of the Act 1 hymns and the self-flagellation of the interim to &#8211; well, what?  It&#8217;s not quite clear, but for the opera to have a point, something has to have changed. The symbolism of a spear being used for healing should be a powerful one, but Wagner doesn&#8217;t really tell us what the Knights will be getting up to in the future. A mass wedding of Knights and Flower-maidens would be a good start, methinks.</p>
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		<title>By: Vinteuil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinteuil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Naxos bargains, don&#039;t forget Mark Obert-Thorn&#039;s *astonishing* transfers of Karl Muck&#039;s Act I prelude, Grail Scene, Flower-maidens scene, and almost complete Act 3, recorded in Bayreuth and Berlin, 1927-8. As close to the horse&#039;s mouth as any of us will ever get. Featuring the unforgettable sound of the bells of Montsalvat, cast according to Wagner&#039;s personal specifications, but now lost forever--melted down for bullets by the Third Reich.And no--Naxos isn&#039;t even paying me for this. Why pay for what you can get free?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Speaking of Naxos bargains, don&#8217;t forget Mark Obert-Thorn&#8217;s <strong>astonishing</strong> transfers of Karl Muck&#8217;s Act I prelude, Grail Scene, Flower-maidens scene, and almost complete Act 3, recorded in Bayreuth and Berlin, 1927-8. As close to the horse&#8217;s mouth as any of us will ever get. Featuring the unforgettable sound of the bells of Montsalvat, cast according to Wagner&#8217;s personal specifications, but now lost forever&#8212;melted down for bullets by the Third Reich.And no&#8212;Naxos isn&#8217;t even paying me for this. Why pay for what you can get free?</p>
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