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		<title>By: Morgan Kint</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/02/03/punk-the-national-review/comment-page-5/#comment-15568</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan Kint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2004 04:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Might as well punk the Utne Reader, The Nation, New Republic, and other like minded bird cage fodder rags.  Amazing hoiw many letters posted in those rags are from &quot;supposed&quot; reality-based individuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Might as well punk the Utne Reader, The Nation, New Republic, and other like minded bird cage fodder rags.  Amazing hoiw many letters posted in those rags are from &#8220;supposed&#8221; reality-based individuals.</p>
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		<title>By: james ballot</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/02/03/punk-the-national-review/comment-page-5/#comment-15567</link>
		<dc:creator>james ballot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis Kucinich: Use Chico&#039;s soap, no give back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Dennis Kucinich: Use Chico&#8217;s soap, no give back.</p>
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		<title>By: Crank</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/02/03/punk-the-national-review/comment-page-5/#comment-15566</link>
		<dc:creator>Crank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2004 21:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, is &lt;a href=&quot;http://crankshaw.blogspot.com/2004_02_15_crankshaw_archive.html#107699662773869221&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; a hoax?  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://nydn.com/front/v-pfriendly/story/119199p-107235c.html&quot;&gt;See here as well&lt;/a&gt;).  Does this Dave Barry guy really exist, or did the Miami Herald make him up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>So, is <a href="http://crankshaw.blogspot.com/2004_02_15_crankshaw_archive.html#107699662773869221">this</a> a hoax?  (<a href="http://nydn.com/front/v-pfriendly/story/119199p-107235c.html">See here as well</a>).  Does this Dave Barry guy really exist, or did the Miami Herald make him up?</p>
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		<title>By: Melvin</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/02/03/punk-the-national-review/comment-page-5/#comment-15565</link>
		<dc:creator>Melvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2004 03:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liberalism is becoming alot like communism, becoming extinct.I imagine most of you will be waving your little red Chairman Mao books in the not so distant future.Power to the party comrade Ted, you are just so darn clever and orginal.Oh, I almost forgot you Democratic Liberal Socialists don&#039;t quit yur day jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Liberalism is becoming alot like communism, becoming extinct.I imagine most of you will be waving your little red Chairman Mao books in the not so distant future.Power to the party comrade Ted, you are just so darn clever and orginal.Oh, I almost forgot you Democratic Liberal Socialists don&#8217;t quit yur day jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/02/03/punk-the-national-review/comment-page-5/#comment-15564</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2004 22:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And of course, Hesoid believes that only liberals ought to be able to hide behind NYT v Sullivan to slander their opponents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>And of course, Hesoid believes that only liberals ought to be able to hide behind <span class="caps">NYT</span> v Sullivan to slander their opponents.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/02/03/punk-the-national-review/comment-page-5/#comment-15563</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2004 16:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey! Michelles and jcl,I think the whole point here is that the media in general not just the NRO, has for sometime now been reporting/repeating what others have said in posts and email and articles and on tv that get no-other scrutiny than to say that this is what so and so said or it was in an email or it was from an anonymous source. This is not good journalism. It used to be that before one organization or reporter  would repeat something it needed to be varified at least to some degree. But, as it is now in most of the media it is just repeated as being fom another source with no investigating of the claim at all. Again this is not journalism it is gosip. I think this is mostly due to the fact that a lot of the media is now looking to entertain their audiences rather than inform them. This has led to the dismisal of good reporters in favor of good entertainers. I could go on to state that the media is biased toward the right in most of the news and print. However there are growing numbers of liberal outlets poping up everywhere. So it may do you good to try and find one you like ratherthan be critical of this one. It is apparent to me that you are just another one of those people whose vote got counted in 2000.And now your so pissed off because you know you were/are lied to by bush and his cronies. And I could go on and on and on,,,,,,,,I could try to reason you out of the position you are in,,,,however I learned a long time ago that you can not reason a person out of a position that they did not reason themselves into in the first placeAnd on and on and onBush is Sauron!  Save the shire!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hey! Michelles and jcl,I think the whole point here is that the media in general not just the <span class="caps">NRO</span>, has for sometime now been reporting/repeating what others have said in posts and email and articles and on tv that get no-other scrutiny than to say that this is what so and so said or it was in an email or it was from an anonymous source. This is not good journalism. It used to be that before one organization or reporter  would repeat something it needed to be varified at least to some degree. But, as it is now in most of the media it is just repeated as being fom another source with no investigating of the claim at all. Again this is not journalism it is gosip. I think this is mostly due to the fact that a lot of the media is now looking to entertain their audiences rather than inform them. This has led to the dismisal of good reporters in favor of good entertainers. I could go on to state that the media is biased toward the right in most of the news and print. However there are growing numbers of liberal outlets poping up everywhere. So it may do you good to try and find one you like ratherthan be critical of this one. It is apparent to me that you are just another one of those people whose vote got counted in 2000.And now your so pissed off because you know you were/are lied to by bush and his cronies. And I could go on and on and on,,,,,,,,I could try to reason you out of the position you are in,,,,however I learned a long time ago that you can not reason a person out of a position that they did not reason themselves into in the first placeAnd on and on and onBush is Sauron!  Save the shire!</p>
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		<title>By: Big Bob</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/02/03/punk-the-national-review/comment-page-5/#comment-15562</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2004 18:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my! More anonymous recklessness!In a &lt;i&gt;newspaper&lt;/i&gt; no less! Apparently Jonah wasn&#039;t careless, he was just ahead of his time.http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/17337.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oh my! More anonymous recklessness!In a <i>newspaper</i> no less! Apparently Jonah wasn&#8217;t careless, he was just ahead of his time.<a href="http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/17337.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/17337.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Dulak</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/02/03/punk-the-national-review/comment-page-5/#comment-15561</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Dulak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2004 17:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ahem: It would appear that you&#039;re paying attention to him already, yes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>ahem: It would appear that you&#8217;re paying attention to him already, yes?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/02/03/punk-the-national-review/comment-page-5/#comment-15560</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2004 16:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I assume that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nationalreview.com/thecorner/04_02_01_corner-archive.asp#024350&quot;&gt;this guy&lt;/a&gt; gets his Amazon gift certificate, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I assume that <a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/thecorner/04_02_01_corner-archive.asp#024350">this guy</a> gets his Amazon gift certificate, right?</p>
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		<title>By: ahem</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/02/03/punk-the-national-review/comment-page-4/#comment-15559</link>
		<dc:creator>ahem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2004 14:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey, jcl: we&#039;ll start paying attention to you when you learn how to quote properly in comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>hey, jcl: we&#8217;ll start paying attention to you when you learn how to quote properly in comments.</p>
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		<title>By: jcl</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/02/03/punk-the-national-review/comment-page-4/#comment-15558</link>
		<dc:creator>jcl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2004 06:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously, the people on this page need to sit back, take a breath, and get over themselves.  Liberals, please accept the fact that people can disagree with you - marketplace of ideas and all that.  Many liberals I know make a big deal about seeing the nuances of issues, moral realitivism, etc. But as soon as a conservative is involved, it becomes the war or the stupid vs the intelligent, the bigoted vs the enlightened, the compassionate vs the callous, etc. In other words, black and white, right and wrong, good vs evil.  Guess what, you can disagree with someone&#039;s positions, or even on your opinion of certain people, without seeing them as the forces of darkness.  Trust me, you don&#039;t have all the answers and neither do I.  How about a civilized debate on the issues rather than &quot;NR [or conservatives or Bush or whatever] is the source of all evil and everything they print/say is a lie.&quot;  That kind of stuff just makes it look like you are afraid/don&#039;t have the brainpower to confront the actual issues.  As far as the Kerry story goes, you don&#039;t know it to be untrue any more than I know it to be true.  Do you really think one political ideology has a monopoly on truth?  Do you really think there is only one viewpoint reasonable people can hold? You belie your cliams to intelligence with your conspiracy theory garbage; it&#039;s so much easier to take pot shots at those who disagree with you and to see them as liars, etc. rather than to accept the messy reality that truth doesn&#039;t follow an ideology.  I know the go team, us vs them mentality can be fun, but sooner or later you gotta join the grown-ups in the real world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Seriously, the people on this page need to sit back, take a breath, and get over themselves.  Liberals, please accept the fact that people can disagree with you &#8211; marketplace of ideas and all that.  Many liberals I know make a big deal about seeing the nuances of issues, moral realitivism, etc. But as soon as a conservative is involved, it becomes the war or the stupid vs the intelligent, the bigoted vs the enlightened, the compassionate vs the callous, etc. In other words, black and white, right and wrong, good vs evil.  Guess what, you can disagree with someone&#8217;s positions, or even on your opinion of certain people, without seeing them as the forces of darkness.  Trust me, you don&#8217;t have all the answers and neither do I.  How about a civilized debate on the issues rather than &#8220;NR [or conservatives or Bush or whatever] is the source of all evil and everything they print/say is a lie.&#8221;  That kind of stuff just makes it look like you are afraid/don&#8217;t have the brainpower to confront the actual issues.  As far as the Kerry story goes, you don&#8217;t know it to be untrue any more than I know it to be true.  Do you really think one political ideology has a monopoly on truth?  Do you really think there is only one viewpoint reasonable people can hold? You belie your cliams to intelligence with your conspiracy theory garbage; it&#8217;s so much easier to take pot shots at those who disagree with you and to see them as liars, etc. rather than to accept the messy reality that truth doesn&#8217;t follow an ideology.  I know the go team, us vs them mentality can be fun, but sooner or later you gotta join the grown-ups in the real world.</p>
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		<title>By: jcl</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/02/03/punk-the-national-review/comment-page-4/#comment-15557</link>
		<dc:creator>jcl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2004 06:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, impossible. We all know that Vincent Foster was murdered by Hitlery, after Bill fathered a child by a black mother, and Max Cleland was in league with Saddam, and lesbians are responsible for the 9/11 attacks, and the CIA gave bad information that Saddam wasn’t an imminent threat, until they gave bad information that Saddam was an imminent threat, and Al Gore said that he invented the internet, and Bill Clinton blocked LAX getting a haircut, and Ronald Reagan liberated concentration camps in WWII, and Tom Delay couldn’t join up to serve in Vietnam because all the places were taken by minorities, and George Bush never went AWOL, and tax cuts solve every problem, and Elian was saved by dolphins, and Paul Wellstone’s memorial was a political rally, and Bill O’Reilly won a Peabody, and Saddam was behind 9/11, and the Supreme Court decided the 2000 election on the legal merits, and Ken Lay slept in the White House during Clinton’s term, and Clinton’s staff trashed the White House on their way out, and Bush’s budget numbers are meaningful, and there were threats to Air Force One on 9/11, and trees create carbon monoxide, and on and on and on.Republicans never make shit up, not at all.------This is the dumbest thing I&#039;ve ever heard.  Please discontinue any posts about the &quot;collective brainpower&quot; of this site. Seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>No, impossible. We all know that Vincent Foster was murdered by Hitlery, after Bill fathered a child by a black mother, and Max Cleland was in league with Saddam, and lesbians are responsible for the 9/11 attacks, and the <span class="caps">CIA</span> gave bad information that Saddam wasn&#8217;t an imminent threat, until they gave bad information that Saddam was an imminent threat, and Al Gore said that he invented the internet, and Bill Clinton blocked <span class="caps">LAX</span> getting a haircut, and Ronald Reagan liberated concentration camps in <span class="caps">WWII</span>, and Tom Delay couldn&#8217;t join up to serve in Vietnam because all the places were taken by minorities, and George Bush never went <span class="caps">AWOL</span>, and tax cuts solve every problem, and Elian was saved by dolphins, and Paul Wellstone&#8217;s memorial was a political rally, and Bill O&#8217;Reilly won a Peabody, and Saddam was behind 9/11, and the Supreme Court decided the 2000 election on the legal merits, and Ken Lay slept in the White House during Clinton&#8217;s term, and Clinton&#8217;s staff trashed the White House on their way out, and Bush&#8217;s budget numbers are meaningful, and there were threats to Air Force One on 9/11, and trees create carbon monoxide, and on and on and on.Republicans never make shit up, not at all.&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;This is the dumbest thing I&#8217;ve ever heard.  Please discontinue any posts about the &#8220;collective brainpower&#8221; of this site. Seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: jcl</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/02/03/punk-the-national-review/comment-page-4/#comment-15556</link>
		<dc:creator>jcl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2004 06:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JCL argues that Democrats like subsidies also, so it’s OK to throw money at the farmers!------I don&#039;t argue that they are OK - I think the farm subsidies should be ended, as well as a whole assload of gov&#039;t programs - some supported by Dems, some by Republicans.  My only point is that pretending like gov&#039;t subsidies are particular to one party is moronic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><span class="caps">JCL</span> argues that Democrats like subsidies also, so it&#8217;s OK to throw money at the farmers!&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;I don&#8217;t argue that they are <span class="caps">OK </span>- I think the farm subsidies should be ended, as well as a whole assload of gov&#8217;t programs &#8211; some supported by Dems, some by Republicans.  My only point is that pretending like gov&#8217;t subsidies are particular to one party is moronic.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Dulak</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/02/03/punk-the-national-review/comment-page-4/#comment-15555</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Dulak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2004 04:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ahem:Hey. I &lt;I&gt;like&lt;/I&gt; vindaloo. (Too hot for you? Stay out of my kitchen.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>ahem:Hey. I <i>like</i> vindaloo. (Too hot for you? Stay out of my kitchen.)</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Dulak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Dulak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2004 04:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ahem:Hey. I &lt;I&gt;like&lt;/I&gt; vindaloo. (Too hot for you? Stay out of my kitchen.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>ahem:Hey. I <i>like</i> vindaloo. (Too hot for you? Stay out of my kitchen.)</p>
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