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	<title>Comments on: Recounts</title>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Weininger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas Weininger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2004 16:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken MacLeod has, in one of his more recent books (_Dark Light_, I think, but it might be _Cosmonaut Keep_), a very nice exploration of how a choose-officials-by-lots system might work, complete with the line: &quot;Elections are *so* undemocratic&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ken MacLeod has, in one of his more recent books (_Dark Light_, I think, but it might be <em>Cosmonaut Keep</em>), a very nice exploration of how a choose-officials-by-lots system might work, complete with the line: &#8220;Elections are <strong>so</strong> undemocratic&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: raj</title>
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		<dc:creator>raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2004 12:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One clear problem regarding counting votes in the US is that, in an election, the occupant of virtually every office is subject to the whim of the electorate.  Moreover, there are often more than a few referenda.  All on the same ballot.  In one country with which I am familiar, Germany, when one goes to vote, one votes for the occupant of one office.  I haven&#039;t heard of any referenda there.  That makes vote counting relatively simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>One clear problem regarding counting votes in the US is that, in an election, the occupant of virtually every office is subject to the whim of the electorate.  Moreover, there are often more than a few referenda.  All on the same ballot.  In one country with which I am familiar, Germany, when one goes to vote, one votes for the occupant of one office.  I haven&#8217;t heard of any referenda there.  That makes vote counting relatively simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt McG</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt McG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2004 09:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s an interesting point. I&#039;ve thought a few times about the possibility of selecting democratic representatives at random. It seems the logical conclusion if one believes that &lt;i&gt;who&lt;/i&gt; politicians are matters as well as &lt;i&gt;what&lt;/i&gt; they represent.[For example, the plausible claims that are often made that our parliament ought to have more women in it... which is sometimes backed up by deliberate selection policies for candidates.]More here on this: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mcgrattan.f2s.com/blog/archives/00000005.htm&quot;&gt;Glaikit Feartie: Voting&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It&#8217;s an interesting point. I&#8217;ve thought a few times about the possibility of selecting democratic representatives at random. It seems the logical conclusion if one believes that <i>who</i> politicians are matters as well as <i>what</i> they represent.[For example, the plausible claims that are often made that our parliament ought to have more women in it&#8230; which is sometimes backed up by deliberate selection policies for candidates.]More here on this: <a href="http://www.mcgrattan.f2s.com/blog/archives/00000005.htm">Glaikit Feartie: Voting</a></p>
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		<title>By: sennoma</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/02/13/recounts/comment-page-1/#comment-17366</link>
		<dc:creator>sennoma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2004 03:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It’s how we pick juries after all&lt;/i&gt;Offtopic a bit: not if my wife&#039;s recent experience with jury duty is any indication, it&#039;s not.  Prospective jurors might be randomly chosen, but then some pretty heavy selecting-for-desired-qualities takes place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>It&#8217;s how we pick juries after all</i>Offtopic a bit: not if my wife&#8217;s recent experience with jury duty is any indication, it&#8217;s not.  Prospective jurors might be randomly chosen, but then some pretty heavy selecting-for-desired-qualities takes place.</p>
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		<title>By: Glen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2004 00:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your parenthetical comment about selecting candidates by lot got me thinking about an alternative scheme:  selecting *voters* by lot.  See my post &lt;a&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Your parenthetical comment about selecting candidates by lot got me thinking about an alternative scheme:  selecting <strong>voters</strong> by lot.  See my post <a>here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian Holsclaw</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/02/13/recounts/comment-page-1/#comment-17364</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian Holsclaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2004 22:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This computer voting thing is going to be a mess.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This computer voting thing is going to be a mess.</p>
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