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	<title>Comments on: Keynes and Bush</title>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Osner</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/02/24/keynes-and-bush/comment-page-1/#comment-18999</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Osner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2004 13:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Presidents with an ® after their names&lt;/i&gt;Which is to say, trademarked Presidents...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Presidents with an &#174; after their names</i>Which is to say, trademarked Presidents&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Brubeck</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/02/24/keynes-and-bush/comment-page-1/#comment-18998</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Brubeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2004 04:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sigivald (&quot;don’t job projection numbers normally change every few weeks?&quot;):Yes, but in this case the administration made a ridiculously optimistic forecast, then denied that they had ever made that forecast (saying that it had actually been a &quot;goal&quot;, not a prediction), then denied their own denial (saying that it was not in fact a &quot;goal&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>sigivald (&#8220;don&#8217;t job projection numbers normally change every few weeks?&#8221;):Yes, but in this case the administration made a ridiculously optimistic forecast, then denied that they had ever made that forecast (saying that it had actually been a &#8220;goal&#8221;, not a prediction), then denied their own denial (saying that it was not in fact a &#8220;goal&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: GMT</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/02/24/keynes-and-bush/comment-page-1/#comment-18997</link>
		<dc:creator>GMT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2004 22:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, sigivald?  This is what Marshall wrote:  &lt;i&gt;But I&#039;m not sure these are waffles exactly. They seem more like examples that, for this administration, all facts are fungible or perhaps infinitely malleable. &lt;/i&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Um, sigivald?  This is what Marshall wrote:  <i>But I&#8217;m not sure these are waffles exactly. They seem more like examples that, for this administration, all facts are fungible or perhaps infinitely malleable. </i></p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
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		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2004 21:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A491-2004Feb23_2.html&quot;&gt;The Washington Post&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;b&gt;Fog of War&lt;/b&gt; &quot;He volunteered to go to Vietnam.&quot; -- &lt;i&gt;Bush campaign chairman Marc Racicot, yesterday, on National Public Radio&lt;/i&gt;&quot;No, I didn&#039;t.&quot; -- &lt;i&gt;President Bush, Feb. 8, responding to a question on NBC&#039;s &quot;Meet the Press&quot; about whether he volunteered to go to Vietnam&lt;/i&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>From <i><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A491-2004Feb23_2.html">The Washington Post</a></i>:<b>Fog of War</b> &#8220;He volunteered to go to Vietnam.&#8221; &#8212;<i>Bush campaign chairman Marc Racicot, yesterday, on National Public Radio</i>&#8220;No, I didn&#8217;t.&#8221; &#8212;<i>President Bush, Feb. 8, responding to a question on <span class="caps">NBC</span>&#8217;s &#8220;Meet the Press&#8221; about whether he volunteered to go to Vietnam</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sigivald</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/02/24/keynes-and-bush/comment-page-1/#comment-18995</link>
		<dc:creator>Sigivald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2004 21:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, when plans for Iraqi elections change as the situation on the ground changes, this is Bush &quot;changing the facts&quot; rather than his mind? (Nevermind that Bush presumably isn&#039;t the one making primary decisions about that, sine he&#039;s known to be a master delegator, and, well, every President only has so much time and competence.)I&#039;d expect better from Marshall, but I&#039;ve read him for too long. (I&#039;d also like to see those claims about &quot;weekly&quot; changes for all of those get some specific backing, and note that anything anyone in the administration says is attributed to &quot;Bush&quot;, but Kerry, in contrast, only has his own &lt;I&gt;direct&lt;/i&gt; words used against him. Evidently we&#039;re to understand that Presidents (or at least Presidents with an (R) after their names) control all projections and statements by the entire administration and are &lt;I&gt;personally at fault&lt;/i&gt; for either waffling or &quot;ignoring the facts&quot; when such change.And, uh, don&#039;t job projection numbers &lt;I&gt;normally&lt;/i&gt; change every few weeks? The economy is &lt;I&gt;dynamic&lt;/i&gt;, Josh. Bush is damned if &quot;he&quot; doesn&#039;t update numbers (because they&#039;ll be wrong!) and damned if &quot;he&quot; does (because then he&#039;s waffling, or &quot;ignoring the facts&quot;!). It appears that only perfect foreknowledge can suffice to stifle this criticism.Perhaps the medicare point is valid (though to imagine that Marshall seriously &quot;blames&quot; Bush for spending too much on senior benifits does not pass the giggle test); and not knowing what remarks the poster refers to &lt;I&gt;exactly&lt;/i&gt;, I can&#039;t say for sure about the WMD or Inspectors issues, but the jobs and Iraqi government examples are simply... partisan sniping. Exactly what I&#039;ve come to expect from TPM, sadly.Come now, CT. Can&#039;t your staff of resident geniuses manage better than recycling Josh Marshall?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>So, when plans for Iraqi elections change as the situation on the ground changes, this is Bush &#8220;changing the facts&#8221; rather than his mind? (Nevermind that Bush presumably isn&#8217;t the one making primary decisions about that, sine he&#8217;s known to be a master delegator, and, well, every President only has so much time and competence.)I&#8217;d expect better from Marshall, but I&#8217;ve read him for too long. (I&#8217;d also like to see those claims about &#8220;weekly&#8221; changes for all of those get some specific backing, and note that anything anyone in the administration says is attributed to &#8220;Bush&#8221;, but Kerry, in contrast, only has his own <i>direct</i> words used against him. Evidently we&#8217;re to understand that Presidents (or at least Presidents with an&#174; after their names) control all projections and statements by the entire administration and are <i>personally at fault</i> for either waffling or &#8220;ignoring the facts&#8221; when such change.And, uh, don&#8217;t job projection numbers <i>normally</i> change every few weeks? The economy is <i>dynamic</i>, Josh. Bush is damned if &#8220;he&#8221; doesn&#8217;t update numbers (because they&#8217;ll be wrong!) and damned if &#8220;he&#8221; does (because then he&#8217;s waffling, or &#8220;ignoring the facts&#8221;!). It appears that only perfect foreknowledge can suffice to stifle this criticism.Perhaps the medicare point is valid (though to imagine that Marshall seriously &#8220;blames&#8221; Bush for spending too much on senior benifits does not pass the giggle test); and not knowing what remarks the poster refers to <i>exactly</i>, I can&#8217;t say for sure about the <span class="caps">WMD</span> or Inspectors issues, but the jobs and Iraqi government examples are simply&#8230; partisan sniping. Exactly what I&#8217;ve come to expect from <span class="caps">TPM</span>, sadly.Come now, CT. Can&#8217;t your staff of resident geniuses manage better than recycling Josh Marshall?</p>
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		<title>By: GMT</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/02/24/keynes-and-bush/comment-page-1/#comment-18994</link>
		<dc:creator>GMT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2004 20:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>W.&#039;s comments on Saddam and the weapon inspectors was a Through the Looking Glass moment, indeed.  The next day an adm. official and a retired officer parroted the same line in front of an apparently clueless reporter, I believe on CNN.  Then I remembered W.&#039;s claim that he saw footage of the first plane hitting its tower on 9/11, before he entered the classroom where, in fact, he was told of the attack some time later.  That footage, furthermore, wasn&#039;t available until late on 9/12, since the guy carrying the camcorder was too busy running for his life the previous day.  Now he claims to have volunteered for duty in &#039;Nam.  http://www.calpundit.com/blogphotos/Blog_Bush_No_Overseas.gifnope.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>W.&#8217;s comments on Saddam and the weapon inspectors was a Through the Looking Glass moment, indeed.  The next day an adm. official and a retired officer parroted the same line in front of an apparently clueless reporter, I believe on <span class="caps">CNN</span>.  Then I remembered W.&#8217;s claim that he saw footage of the first plane hitting its tower on 9/11, before he entered the classroom where, in fact, he was told of the attack some time later.  That footage, furthermore, wasn&#8217;t available until late on 9/12, since the guy carrying the camcorder was too busy running for his life the previous day.  Now he claims to have volunteered for duty in &#8216;Nam.  <a href="http://www.calpundit.com/blogphotos/Blog_Bush_No_Overseas.gif" rel="nofollow">http://www.calpundit.com/blogphotos/Blog_Bush_No_Overseas.gif</a>nope.</p>
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