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		<title>By: Ophelia Benson</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/03/29/how-do-you-roux/comment-page-1/#comment-23195</link>
		<dc:creator>Ophelia Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2004 02:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t pay me no mind, I&#039;ve been writing dictionary entries most of the day for many days, it makes me go all peculiar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Don&#8217;t pay me no mind, I&#8217;ve been writing dictionary entries most of the day for many days, it makes me go all peculiar.</p>
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		<title>By: Ophelia Benson</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/03/29/how-do-you-roux/comment-page-1/#comment-23194</link>
		<dc:creator>Ophelia Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2004 02:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There!  See?  Maria got my joke and the point of it and everything.Listen, as soon as I get a minute I&#039;ll tell you all about my recipe for anchovy-papaya surprise.  It&#039;s a bit lumpy, but what the hell.Tune in tomorrow, same time, same station, for another thrilling  episode of &lt;i&gt;Crooked Kitchen&lt;/i&gt;, or &lt;i&gt;Twisty Sticks Reads the Cookbook Upside Down&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>There!  See?  Maria got my joke and the point of it and everything.Listen, as soon as I get a minute I&#8217;ll tell you all about my recipe for anchovy-papaya surprise.  It&#8217;s a bit lumpy, but what the hell.Tune in tomorrow, same time, same station, for another thrilling  episode of <i>Crooked Kitchen</i>, or <i>Twisty Sticks Reads the Cookbook Upside Down</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: yabonn</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/03/29/how-do-you-roux/comment-page-1/#comment-23193</link>
		<dc:creator>yabonn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2004 18:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Off to buy some tinned soup now.&lt;/i&gt;Guards! Guaaaaaaards! Seize this timberite!</description>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/03/29/how-do-you-roux/comment-page-1/#comment-23192</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2004 15:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy mother of god, I leave the blog for a bare 22 hours and come back to 2 dozen comments about roux!&#039;Double-boiler&#039;, &#039;wondra&#039;(you on commission, Keef?),how to make Guinness, batch-baking roux, gluten development, spatzles, bains maries and the dubious addition of the verbs &#039;to lauter&#039; and &#039;to sparge&#039; - I feel like I wandered into an APSR conference and asked if anyone had heard of this great writer, Tookville....Thanks all - the collective brain power of CT is really quite something.  Off to buy some tinned soup now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Holy mother of god, I leave the blog for a bare 22 hours and come back to 2 dozen comments about roux!&#8216;Double-boiler&#8217;, &#8216;wondra&#8217;(you on commission, Keef?),how to make Guinness, batch-baking roux, gluten development, spatzles, bains maries and the dubious addition of the verbs &#8216;to lauter&#8217; and &#8216;to sparge&#8217; &#8211; I feel like I wandered into an <span class="caps">APSR</span> conference and asked if anyone had heard of this great writer, Tookville&#8230;.Thanks all &#8211; the collective brain power of CT is really quite something.  Off to buy some tinned soup now.</p>
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		<title>By: anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2004 13:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The double boiler technique also makes for a very delicate scrambled eggs if you&#039;ve the patience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The double boiler technique also makes for a very delicate scrambled eggs if you&#8217;ve the patience.</p>
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		<title>By: dsquared</title>
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		<dc:creator>dsquared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2004 06:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say I&#039;m with Belle on this one; I never realised that there was any particular problem with roux ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I have to say I&#8217;m with Belle on this one; I never realised that there was any particular problem with roux &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Keen</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/03/29/how-do-you-roux/comment-page-1/#comment-23190</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Keen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2004 03:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the binding the mash in a cheesecloth only comes if you&#039;re using the grains as an adjunct and getting most of your fermentables from extract.  If you&#039;re mashing properly you&#039;ll need to lauter and sparge the grain bed and for a reasonable batchsize you&#039;re talking at least 5 pounds of milled barley.  www.howtobrew.com has a lovely complete book...Apropos roux, I get lumpfree results merely by waiting a thirty seconds or more for the butter to foam out before adding the flour.  No moisture = no clumping.Mm, now I&#039;m off to admire the wort chiller I won as a doorprize this Saturday....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well, the binding the mash in a cheesecloth only comes if you&#8217;re using the grains as an adjunct and getting most of your fermentables from extract.  If you&#8217;re mashing properly you&#8217;ll need to lauter and sparge the grain bed and for a reasonable batchsize you&#8217;re talking at least 5 pounds of milled barley.  <a href="http://www.howtobrew.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.howtobrew.com</a> has a lovely complete book&#8230;Apropos roux, I get lumpfree results merely by waiting a thirty seconds or more for the butter to foam out before adding the flour.  No moisture = no clumping.Mm, now I&#8217;m off to admire the wort chiller I won as a doorprize this Saturday&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Belle Waring</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/03/29/how-do-you-roux/comment-page-1/#comment-23189</link>
		<dc:creator>Belle Waring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2004 03:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must admit to a little confusion here. My roux never burn or get lumps in them. I don&#039;t think I have magical powers or anything. Cast iron pan, melt the fat first, stirring like mad, that&#039;s about it. I remember these old ads there used to be for (ech) canned gravy: &quot;Just like homemade -- but no lumps!&quot; I was always like, what lumps are you talking about? Muah them with the wooden spoon when they appear! Is everyone just wandering absent-mindedly away from the stove when they encounter these problems, or what? If all else fails, whisk. Still the double-boiler is nice for sauces that might separate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I must admit to a little confusion here. My roux never burn or get lumps in them. I don&#8217;t think I have magical powers or anything. Cast iron pan, melt the fat first, stirring like mad, that&#8217;s about it. I remember these old ads there used to be for (ech) canned gravy: &#8220;Just like homemade&#8212;but no lumps!&#8221; I was always like, what lumps are you talking about? Muah them with the wooden spoon when they appear! Is everyone just wandering absent-mindedly away from the stove when they encounter these problems, or what? If all else fails, whisk. Still the double-boiler is nice for sauces that might separate.</p>
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		<title>By: doghouse riley</title>
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		<dc:creator>doghouse riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2004 21:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microwave brown roux?  O tempora! O mores!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Microwave brown roux?  O tempora! O mores!</p>
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		<title>By: yabonn</title>
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		<dc:creator>yabonn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2004 21:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw, the steam thing is a neat trick, but does it really add something (apart of the spared room) compared to a simpler bain marie? We usually use that (ok, most often gf does) for the various delicate melting operations.Mhm. Bit hungry now actually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Btw, the steam thing is a neat trick, but does it really add something (apart of the spared room) compared to a simpler bain marie? We usually use that (ok, most often gf does) for the various delicate melting operations.Mhm. Bit hungry now actually.</p>
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		<title>By: marky</title>
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		<dc:creator>marky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maria,Congratulations! You just (re)-invented the double-boiler:)What you&#039;re describing is a standard method for dealing with very temperature sensitive sauces. It works well for hollandaise too---that is, if there&#039;s anyone left who doesn&#039;t use the blender to make hollandaise. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Maria,Congratulations! You just (re)-invented the double-boiler:)What you&#8217;re describing is a standard method for dealing with very temperature sensitive sauces. It works well for hollandaise too&#8212;-that is, if there&#8217;s anyone left who doesn&#8217;t use the blender to make hollandaise.</p>
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		<title>By: Ophelia Benson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ophelia Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was a joke, you know![rolls about on floor in agony of mirth]</description>
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		<title>By: Mrs Tilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs Tilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Have you never heard of tinned soup?&lt;/i&gt;[Sniffs haughtily.]Mind you, I make &lt;i&gt;Spätzle&lt;/i&gt; with one of those... erm... things (it&#039;s called a &lt;i&gt;Spätzlehobel&lt;/i&gt; in German but I don&#039;t know if there&#039;s a word for it in English) instead of shaving them from a board into the water. So really I shouldn&#039;t be casting stones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Have you never heard of tinned soup?</i>[Sniffs haughtily.]Mind you, I make <i>Sp&#228;tzle</i> with one of those&#8230; erm&#8230; things (it&#8217;s called a <i>Sp&#228;tzlehobel</i> in German but I don&#8217;t know if there&#8217;s a word for it in English) instead of shaving them from a board into the water. So really I shouldn&#8217;t be casting stones.</p>
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		<title>By: Ophelia Benson</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/03/29/how-do-you-roux/comment-page-1/#comment-23183</link>
		<dc:creator>Ophelia Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good heavens, are you people all insane?  Have you never heard of tinned soup?</description>
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		<title>By: nolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>nolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2004 17:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My experience with roux leads me to believe that the tools are the key.  A good, heavy pan and a good whisk help lots.  If the pan&#039;s too thin or doesn&#039;t distribute heat evenly, it&#039;s a bear to anticipate what&#039;s going on heat-wise.  Thin pans heat too fast for good roux prep, and hot or cold spots are a pain in the you-know-what.  Nonstick pans also suck for this. Practice helps as well. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>My experience with roux leads me to believe that the tools are the key.  A good, heavy pan and a good whisk help lots.  If the pan&#8217;s too thin or doesn&#8217;t distribute heat evenly, it&#8217;s a bear to anticipate what&#8217;s going on heat-wise.  Thin pans heat too fast for good roux prep, and hot or cold spots are a pain in the you-know-what.  Nonstick pans also suck for this. Practice helps as well.</p>
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