Comments on: WTF?

By: Susie

Susie — Thu, 17 Jun 2004 20:55:53 +0000

I’d like to see an actual article or copy of a speech made by Moon or Bush that he wants Bush to help him take over the world. I support Bush 100% on most things, but this is over the edge. If there is actual proof of this, I’d like to see it. Thanks.

By: Jim

Jim — Wed, 16 Jun 2004 06:40:48 +0000

Jim Jones was also a Messiah

By: d. mason

d. mason — Mon, 14 Jun 2004 23:17:40 +0000

I actually prefer “emporer” in this particular instance. Dunno why.

By: anonymous

anonymous — Mon, 14 Jun 2004 17:49:06 +0000

Kieran that should be “emperor” not “emporer.”

By: John G

John G — Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:49:53 +0000

Yes, “Emperor” is just a reference to Joshua Norton. But this isn’t an Elks Club thing, this is a guy who is focused on amassing political power and believes he and Bush should take over the world together. I’m not making this up.

By: Jason Kuznicki

Jason Kuznicki — Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:57:20 +0000

But this is a far cry from saying he’s been declared the Emperor of the United States.

By: John G

John G — Mon, 14 Jun 2004 07:13:19 +0000

Hi—the reason it’s clear he was crowned Messiah is that Moon, on the basis that he is the Messiah, is going around crowning himself in vast cult ceremonies every few months. This one just happened to involve the U.S. government. While no Congressman explicitly stated he was the Messiah, the rabbi does, and then Moon gets up there and says he is, after the crowning is all over with. Thanks for linking to this important story on corruption in the Capitol.

By: Ophelia Benson

Ophelia Benson — Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:54:59 +0000

Whaaaaaaaaat? [mutters] This isn’t a hospital, it’s an insane asylum.

By: Andrew Case

Andrew Case — Sun, 13 Jun 2004 14:14:12 +0000

“the fundevangelist definition of the antichrist” – can you give a link to this definition?

The one I was brought up with is the Jerry Falwell version, which claims that the antichrist will have all of the characteristics of the Messiah but will seek temporal power. He will suffer a head wound which ought to kill him but won’t (I think this part is common to people who take Revelation literally). Other people claim that he is the Pope. I used a quick and dirty shorthand that doesn’t do justice to the huge range of endtime scenarios.

So the good news is, Moon may only be missing the head wound in order to qualify. :-) If you dig around on the net a bit you’ll find some interesting stuff on this. Here are a couple of starting points: http://www.lcg.org/files/booklets/atc/default.htm A serious church page. http://www.dccsa.com/greatjoy/whoisthe.htm These guys think it’s Prince Charles http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/9941/index.html A historical overview of failed endtime prophecies (a really fun page) There is a general agreement among fundamentalists in the USA that the antichrist will seek temporal power and will seek to unify all the nations under his leadership. Other than that there’s fairly wide disagreement on details (other than the head wound, which may be interpreted metaphorically). Moon can certainly be made to fit, as can the Pope, Khofi Anan, George Soros, Osama Bin Laden, yada yada yada. It’s in the best interest of the left to convince religious conservatives that it’s really Moon. Spread the meme.

By: schwa

schwa — Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:17:19 +0000

Chun’s being smugly ironic. Moon owns the Washington Times, which has a rich and proud history of printing unabashed dingbat rightwinger spin and calling it reportage.

By: pepi

pepi — Sun, 13 Jun 2004 07:33:50 +0000

I’m not shocked anymore. It’s just that no one believes this kind of stuff unless it’s been on the tv news. And even if it was, then it’d only be a colourful thing to make jokes about.

By: ArC

ArC — Sun, 13 Jun 2004 06:17:32 +0000

Chun, do you have a link for that?

By: q

Sun, 13 Jun 2004 05:28:38 +0000

“the fundevangelist definition of the antichrist” – can you give a link to this definition?

By: chun the unavoidable

chun the unavoidable — Sun, 13 Jun 2004 03:46:09 +0000

I read a story about this in the Washington Times, but it didn’t seem particularly newsworthy.

By: IXLNXS

IXLNXS — Sun, 13 Jun 2004 03:22:30 +0000

The anti christ does not have to be Jewish. He is supposed to descend from the Roman Emperor. Doesn’t say which one, but hey, God always liked to keep people guessing.