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		<title>By: 398cce4</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/06/25/making-history/comment-page-1/#comment-68836</link>
		<dc:creator>398cce4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;398cce4&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<title>By: Dan Hardie</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/06/25/making-history/comment-page-1/#comment-32868</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Hardie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Like Winston Churchill, he intends to ensure that history is kind to him by writing it.&#039;There was an awful lot wrong with Churchill, as a man, politician and writer, but comparing him in any sense to Kissinger is frankly ridiculous. Anyone who has seriously studied World War 2 will agree that Churchill&#039;s memoirs, in sharp distinction to Kissinger&#039;s, contain much valuable revelation of the truth. Not only that, but you betray your ignorance of what Churchill actually said: he never claimed to &#039;ensure that history is kind to him by writing it&#039;.You&#039;ve clearly got a very muddled recollection of a typical, and rather good, Churchill joke: &#039;The judgement of history upon Stanley Baldwin will be harsh and heavy. I know this. (Theatrical pause). Because I will write the history.&#039; Embarrassing error, rather as if one were to describe Dean Swift as &#039;the Irish author and advocate of child-cannibalism&#039;. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8216;Like Winston Churchill, he intends to ensure that history is kind to him by writing it.&#8217;There was an awful lot wrong with Churchill, as a man, politician and writer, but comparing him in any sense to Kissinger is frankly ridiculous. Anyone who has seriously studied World War 2 will agree that Churchill&#8217;s memoirs, in sharp distinction to Kissinger&#8217;s, contain much valuable revelation of the truth. Not only that, but you betray your ignorance of what Churchill actually said: he never claimed to &#8216;ensure that history is kind to him by writing it&#8217;.You&#8217;ve clearly got a very muddled recollection of a typical, and rather good, Churchill joke: &#8216;The judgement of history upon Stanley Baldwin will be harsh and heavy. I know this. (Theatrical pause). Because I will write the history.&#8217; Embarrassing error, rather as if one were to describe Dean Swift as &#8216;the Irish author and advocate of child-cannibalism&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/06/25/making-history/comment-page-1/#comment-32867</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2004 07:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and also possibly &lt;a href=&quot;http://mayet.som.yale.edu/coopetition/vN.html&quot;&gt;john von neumann&lt;/a&gt; (strangelove)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>and also possibly <a href="http://mayet.som.yale.edu/coopetition/vN.html">john von neumann</a> (strangelove)</p>
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		<title>By: Keith M Ellis</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/06/25/making-history/comment-page-1/#comment-32866</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith M Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2004 09:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone see Teller&#039;s interview in &quot;The Atomic Bomb&quot; movie?  God, I hate(d) that man.  I&#039;ve always been sure that he was the model for Strangelove.  And I&#039;m think General Turgidson was Curtis LeMay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Anyone see Teller&#8217;s interview in &#8220;The Atomic Bomb&#8221; movie?  God, I hate(d) that man.  I&#8217;ve always been sure that he was the model for Strangelove.  And I&#8217;m think General Turgidson was Curtis LeMay.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/06/25/making-history/comment-page-1/#comment-32865</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2004 04:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elaine,Kissinger was largely unknown in 1963-64 around the time of Dr. Strangelove. The character is largely believed to be based on either Edward Teller, Werner Von Braun or a combination of the two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Elaine,Kissinger was largely unknown in 1963-64 around the time of Dr. Strangelove. The character is largely believed to be based on either Edward Teller, Werner Von Braun or a combination of the two.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine Supkis</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/06/25/making-history/comment-page-1/#comment-32864</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine Supkis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2004 01:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kissinger loved playing Dr. Strangelove.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Kissinger loved playing Dr. Strangelove.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Weiner</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/06/25/making-history/comment-page-1/#comment-32863</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Weiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 21:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Least he didn&#039;t wind up chair of the 9/11 commission. &lt;a href=&quot;http://http://www.mnftiu.cc/mnftiu.cc/war17.html&quot;&gt;Get Your War On&lt;/a&gt; has more. (Although as Chun would no doubt point out if not preempted, the answers to &quot;Does Bush even know who these motherfuckers are? Doesn&#039;t he get suspicious when he sees Kissinger and Poindexter licking the blood off each others&#039; hands? are probably Yes and Why would he?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Least he didn&#8217;t wind up chair of the 9/11 commission. <a href="http://http://www.mnftiu.cc/mnftiu.cc/war17.html">Get Your War On</a> has more. (Although as Chun would no doubt point out if not preempted, the answers to &#8220;Does Bush even know who these motherfuckers are? Doesn&#8217;t he get suspicious when he sees Kissinger and Poindexter licking the blood off each others&#8217; hands? are probably Yes and Why would he?)</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/06/25/making-history/comment-page-1/#comment-32862</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 21:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that it&#039;s also important to include the role that the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/&quot;&gt;National Security Archives&lt;/a&gt; is playing in terms of setting the accurate historical record on Kissinger. They are essentially hoisting him by his own petard using declassified documents. This was the basis for the book that Maxwell reviewed and about which Rogers and Kissinger got their knickers in a twist.They&#039;ve recently released transcripts of telephone calls Kissinger made &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB123/index.htm#new&quot;&gt;regarding Chile&lt;/a&gt; and cables that effectively show him giving a &lt;a href=&quot;http://beautifulhorizons.typepad.com/weblog/2003/12/the_smoking_gun.html&quot;&gt;green light to the Argentine junta to commit acts of torture and murder&lt;/a&gt; while lying to the US ambassador to Argentina about what he told the Argentine Foreign Minister.The historical record on Kissinger is a work on progress and I&#039;m certain that the final result will present an image that nothing will be able to burnish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I think that it&#8217;s also important to include the role that the <a href="http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/">National Security Archives</a> is playing in terms of setting the accurate historical record on Kissinger. They are essentially hoisting him by his own petard using declassified documents. This was the basis for the book that Maxwell reviewed and about which Rogers and Kissinger got their knickers in a twist.They&#8217;ve recently released transcripts of telephone calls Kissinger made <a href="http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB123/index.htm#new">regarding Chile</a> and cables that effectively show him giving a <a href="http://beautifulhorizons.typepad.com/weblog/2003/12/the_smoking_gun.html">green light to the Argentine junta to commit acts of torture and murder</a> while lying to the US ambassador to Argentina about what he told the Argentine Foreign Minister.The historical record on Kissinger is a work on progress and I&#8217;m certain that the final result will present an image that nothing will be able to burnish.</p>
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		<title>By: chun the unavoidable</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/06/25/making-history/comment-page-1/#comment-32861</link>
		<dc:creator>chun the unavoidable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 20:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I were still blogging, I&#039;d be blogging about this:http://www.maydaymystery.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If I were still blogging, I&#8217;d be blogging about this:<a href="http://www.maydaymystery.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.maydaymystery.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ophelia Benson</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/06/25/making-history/comment-page-1/#comment-32860</link>
		<dc:creator>Ophelia Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 20:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeh. I wasn&#039;t disagreeing with you, Henry (sorry, I didn&#039;t make that clear!), just...just ranting, I guess. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yeh. I wasn&#8217;t disagreeing with you, Henry (sorry, I didn&#8217;t make that clear!), just&#8230;just ranting, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/06/25/making-history/comment-page-1/#comment-32859</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 19:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bq. Hitchens may refuse to acknowledge, but he’s done admirable work in bringing the scandal of Kissinger’s reputation as a ‘statesman’ to more attention. It is disgusting the way American amnesia about history has allowed HK to become a (very highly-paid) talking head and bottomless source of pseudo-gravitas.Agreed - the words &quot;very slightly more complicated&quot; were chosen carefully.Chun - you were renouncing the blogosphere and all its works, _nicht wahr_ ? Recanting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote>Hitchens may refuse to acknowledge, but he&#8217;s done admirable work in bringing the scandal of Kissinger&#8217;s reputation as a &#8216;statesman&#8217; to more attention. It is disgusting the way American amnesia about history has allowed HK to become a (very highly-paid) talking head and bottomless source of pseudo-gravitas.Agreed &#8211; the words &#8220;very slightly more complicated&#8221; were chosen carefully.Chun &#8211; you were renouncing the blogosphere and all its works, <em>nicht wahr</em> ? Recanting?</blockquote>
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		<title>By: Ophelia Benson</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/06/25/making-history/comment-page-1/#comment-32858</link>
		<dc:creator>Ophelia Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 19:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hitchens may refuse to acknowledge, but he&#039;s done admirable work in bringing the scandal of Kissinger&#039;s reputation as a &#039;statesman&#039; to more attention. It is disgusting the way American amnesia about history has allowed HK to become a (very highly-paid) talking head and bottomless source of pseudo-gravitas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hitchens may refuse to acknowledge, but he&#8217;s done admirable work in bringing the scandal of Kissinger&#8217;s reputation as a &#8216;statesman&#8217; to more attention. It is disgusting the way American amnesia about history has allowed HK to become a (very highly-paid) talking head and bottomless source of pseudo-gravitas.</p>
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		<title>By: chun the unavoidable</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/06/25/making-history/comment-page-1/#comment-32857</link>
		<dc:creator>chun the unavoidable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 19:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surprised? Oh my.</description>
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