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	<title>Comments on: Our Germs gets a gong</title>
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	<description>Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made</description>
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		<title>By: David Tiley</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/08/06/our-germs-gets-a-gong/comment-page-1/#comment-37612</link>
		<dc:creator>David Tiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2004 06:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John - this is what happens when the survivors of a penal colony get universal education. And then our passion for sport collides with a love of language.We become devoted spectators of the crime of literary fraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>John &#8211; this is what happens when the survivors of a penal colony get universal education. And then our passion for sport collides with a love of language.We become devoted spectators of the crime of literary fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: John Quiggin</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Quiggin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2004 05:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Norma is in a place all her own.&quot;Far from it. In Australia, the literary hoax is a major and respected genre, with its own critical literature, expert commentators and so on. If the Nobel committee ever gets around to recognising its importance, there&#039;s be a string of Aussies in line for the prize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Norma is in a place all her own.&#8221;Far from it. In Australia, the literary hoax is a major and respected genre, with its own critical literature, expert commentators and so on. If the Nobel committee ever gets around to recognising its importance, there&#8217;s be a string of Aussies in line for the prize.</p>
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		<title>By: roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2004 00:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, where is Norma Khouri? To my mind, at the moment, she is definitely the only Australian who should be up for a Nobel Prize. Unfortunately, the category -- Fake -- has yet to get by the Swedish senate. But screw those blond haired bigots! Norma is in a place all her own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hey, where is Norma Khouri? To my mind, at the moment, she is definitely the only Australian who should be up for a Nobel Prize. Unfortunately, the category&#8212;Fake&#8212;has yet to get by the Swedish senate. But screw those blond haired bigots! Norma is in a place all her own.</p>
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		<title>By: David Tiley</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/08/06/our-germs-gets-a-gong/comment-page-1/#comment-37609</link>
		<dc:creator>David Tiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 19:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iain, you just ruined Germs for me forever!Let me join the conga line of patriots pointing out that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zoo.ox.ac.uk/newsite/groups/mathbiol/may-bio.html&quot;&gt;Lord Robert May&lt;/a&gt; is one of ours. And he is a genuine heavy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Iain, you just ruined Germs for me forever!Let me join the conga line of patriots pointing out that <a href="http://www.zoo.ox.ac.uk/newsite/groups/mathbiol/may-bio.html">Lord Robert May</a> is one of ours. And he is a genuine heavy.</p>
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		<title>By: Iain J Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iain J Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 16:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best Greer moment was when she was on a panel discussing Britain&#039;s best-loved books (A BBC TV project called &quot;The Big Read&quot;). She held forth at great length about how awful &quot;Lord of the Rings&quot; is, how childish, how naive, how politically objectionable. After some probing by the chair, Andy Marr, she finally conceded that she&#039;d never actually read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The best Greer moment was when she was on a panel discussing Britain&#8217;s best-loved books (A <span class="caps">BBC TV</span> project called &#8220;The Big Read&#8221;). She held forth at great length about how awful &#8220;Lord of the Rings&#8221; is, how childish, how naive, how politically objectionable. After some probing by the chair, Andy Marr, she finally conceded that she&#8217;d never actually read it.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JamesB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 13:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I&#039;d put Clive James above Greer and Humphries. Best export from Oz after Penfolds....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Personally, I&#8217;d put Clive James above Greer and Humphries. Best export from Oz after Penfolds&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Houghton</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/08/06/our-germs-gets-a-gong/comment-page-1/#comment-37606</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Houghton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 13:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hitchens over Heaney; Frayn over Stoppard; Pullman tied with Kermode; Pullman and Amis on the list at all; Maxwell-Davies, but none of the composers he champions.For Aussies, the biggest insult is Thomas Keneally NOT being on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hitchens over Heaney; Frayn over Stoppard; Pullman tied with Kermode; Pullman and Amis on the list at all; Maxwell-Davies, but none of the composers he champions.For Aussies, the biggest insult is Thomas Keneally <span class="caps">NOT</span> being on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 13:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reuben, that was Australian Rules baseball she was discussing.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Reuben, that was Australian Rules baseball she was discussing.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 10:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Academics get paid for being clever, not for being right.&quot; - Donald Norman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Academics get paid for being clever, not for being right.&#8221; &#8211; Donald Norman</p>
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		<title>By: Giles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 09:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since when has it been necessary to be right to be an intelectual</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Since when has it been necessary to be right to be an intelectual</p>
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		<title>By: reuben</title>
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		<dc:creator>reuben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 09:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t been able to trust a word dear Germaine says since the time I heard her holding forth on one of the few topics I&#039;m better versed than her on: baseball. Literally every one of the ten or so statements she overwhelmed her fellow British panelists with was either completely wrong or the result of a lack of understanding of the game. But of course the British intellectuals knew even less than she did, so no one called her out - though as loudly as I was shouting at my TV, I&#039;m surprised no one at the White City studios heard me. And she said everything with such self-confidence and conviction.Perhaps that over the top self-belief in the rightness of everything one says is a key part of being a public intellectual, and part of the reason that men, with our tendency towards self-confident bluster, are more likely to hold forth in the public eye.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I haven&#8217;t been able to trust a word dear Germaine says since the time I heard her holding forth on one of the few topics I&#8217;m better versed than her on: baseball. Literally every one of the ten or so statements she overwhelmed her fellow British panelists with was either completely wrong or the result of a lack of understanding of the game. But of course the British intellectuals knew even less than she did, so no one called her out &#8211; though as loudly as I was shouting at my TV, I&#8217;m surprised no one at the White City studios heard me. And she said everything with such self-confidence and conviction.Perhaps that over the top self-belief in the rightness of everything one says is a key part of being a public intellectual, and part of the reason that men, with our tendency towards self-confident bluster, are more likely to hold forth in the public eye.</p>
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		<title>By: VJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>VJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 07:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cor! Dame Edna as an &#039;public&#039; intellectual? Dems slim pickins! Too bad Betty Bowers was&#039;nt born outback, right? Hughes at least plays the part. Murdoch is arguably the scourge of the media/entertainment everywhere. Isn&#039;t that enough to count for something? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Cor! Dame Edna as an &#8216;public&#8217; intellectual? Dems slim pickins! Too bad Betty Bowers was&#8217;nt born outback, right? Hughes at least plays the part. Murdoch is arguably the scourge of the media/entertainment everywhere. Isn&#8217;t that enough to count for something?</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 06:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, it&#039;s not just a list of &#039;intellectuals, it&#039;s &#039;public intellectuals&#039;, a wholly different and inadequately defined subspecies. And Germs is nothing if not public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>To be fair, it&#8217;s not just a list of &#8216;intellectuals, it&#8217;s &#8216;public intellectuals&#8217;, a wholly different and inadequately defined subspecies. And Germs is nothing if not public.</p>
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