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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/09/08/mcdonalds-language-quiz/comment-page-1/#comment-41886</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2004 11:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of the dipthongs in English are quite tricky to transliterate into Cyrillic too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>A lot of the dipthongs in English are quite tricky to transliterate into Cyrillic too.</p>
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		<title>By: bad Jim</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/09/08/mcdonalds-language-quiz/comment-page-1/#comment-41885</link>
		<dc:creator>bad Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2004 08:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t take the test. The middle line showed up as little boxes in my browser (Opera 7.2) and the introduction reminded me that I have no idea how to distinguish Russian from other Slavic languages. (The line in Cyrillic didn&#039;t make any sense; I hope that wasn&#039;t Russian. It&#039;s been thirty years, but still...)I do want to say that we, the English-speaking peoples, ought to do a better job of transliterating other languages.  When Gorbachev became the Soviet premier, I had a strong suspicion that his name was actually Gorbachyof, but I had to hear it on the TV for confirmation. Is it so hard to distinguish &lt;b&gt;e&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;ë&lt;/b&gt;?Likewise, when Kostunica beat Milosevic, I was pleased to find a photo of a Serbian newspaper on Yahoo telling the world that Koshtunitsa had beaten Milosevich. I&#039;d claim that Cyrillic has it all over the Latin alphabet except that it lacks symbols for &quot;th&quot; and &quot;w&quot; (and other sounds, I&#039;m sure).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I didn&#8217;t take the test. The middle line showed up as little boxes in my browser (Opera 7.2) and the introduction reminded me that I have no idea how to distinguish Russian from other Slavic languages. (The line in Cyrillic didn&#8217;t make any sense; I hope that wasn&#8217;t Russian. It&#8217;s been thirty years, but still&#8230;)I do want to say that we, the English-speaking peoples, ought to do a better job of transliterating other languages.  When Gorbachev became the Soviet premier, I had a strong suspicion that his name was actually Gorbachyof, but I had to hear it on the TV for confirmation. Is it so hard to distinguish <b>e</b> and <b>&#235;</b>?Likewise, when Kostunica beat Milosevic, I was pleased to find a photo of a Serbian newspaper on Yahoo telling the world that Koshtunitsa had beaten Milosevich. I&#8217;d claim that Cyrillic has it all over the Latin alphabet except that it lacks symbols for &#8220;th&#8221; and &#8220;w&#8221; (and other sounds, I&#8217;m sure).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2004 01:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Nicholas,Dan&#039;s tip doesn&#039;t work as you have no doubt seen. What your looking for is  to replace the&#039;ALT=”?”&#039;with onmouseover=&quot;window.status=&#039;?&#039;;return true;&quot; onmouseout=&quot;window.status=&#039;&#039;;&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Actually Nicholas,Dan&#8217;s tip doesn&#8217;t work as you have no doubt seen. What your looking for is  to replace the&#8216;ALT=&#8221;?&#8221;&#8217;with onmouseover=&#8221;window.status=&#8217;?&#8217;;return true;&#8221; onmouseout=&#8221;window.status=&#8217;&#8216;;&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Whyte</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/09/08/mcdonalds-language-quiz/comment-page-1/#comment-41883</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Whyte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2004 21:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan - thanks for the tip, I&#039;ve incorporated it.Vanya - more widely used than Cyrillic, certainly; but I think not in Europe. And I describe other languages as exotic too. But I&#039;ve moderated the tone of what&#039;s on the page.Cryptic Ned - thanks, as with Dan I&#039;ve incorporated your suggestion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Dan &#8211; thanks for the tip, I&#8217;ve incorporated it.Vanya &#8211; more widely used than Cyrillic, certainly; but I think not in Europe. And I describe other languages as exotic too. But I&#8217;ve moderated the tone of what&#8217;s on the page.Cryptic Ned &#8211; thanks, as with Dan I&#8217;ve incorporated your suggestion.</p>
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		<title>By: Cryptic Ned</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/09/08/mcdonalds-language-quiz/comment-page-1/#comment-41882</link>
		<dc:creator>Cryptic Ned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2004 18:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A quick way to tell whether something is Arabic, Farsi or Urdu:Arabic never has three dots below the line.  There are only two characters in Arabic with three dots, and they&#039;re both above the line.Farsi and Urdu have almost identical alphabets (both the ch and p with 3 dots below the line), but Urdu also has a unique diacritical above the line, looking like a lowercase b (or more accurately, the Arabic &quot;T&quot; or emphatic t).  This is used to indicate retroflex on t and d.  If you don&#039;t see that, it might be either language.  I don&#039;t know anything about common vocabulary or spelling rules that would distinguish them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>A quick way to tell whether something is Arabic, Farsi or Urdu:Arabic never has three dots below the line.  There are only two characters in Arabic with three dots, and they&#8217;re both above the line.Farsi and Urdu have almost identical alphabets (both the ch and p with 3 dots below the line), but Urdu also has a unique diacritical above the line, looking like a lowercase b (or more accurately, the Arabic &#8220;T&#8221; or emphatic t).  This is used to indicate retroflex on t and d.  If you don&#8217;t see that, it might be either language.  I don&#8217;t know anything about common vocabulary or spelling rules that would distinguish them.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2004 18:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nichloas - Insert an ALT=&quot;whatever&quot; in the HREF link - &lt;A HREF=&quot;wrong.html&quot; ALT=&quot;Click Here&quot;&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Nichloas &#8211; Insert an <span class="caps">ALT</span>=&#8221;whatever&#8221; in the <span class="caps">HREF</span> link &#8211; <a HREF="wrong.html" ALT="Click Here"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Martens</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/09/08/mcdonalds-language-quiz/comment-page-1/#comment-41880</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Martens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2004 18:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cheated on two of the slavic languages and one of the baltic ones.  Otherwise, no problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I cheated on two of the slavic languages and one of the baltic ones.  Otherwise, no problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Vanya</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/09/08/mcdonalds-language-quiz/comment-page-1/#comment-41879</link>
		<dc:creator>Vanya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2004 17:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Embarrassed to say I confused the Croatian with Serbian and the Macedonian with Bulgarian, otherwise it&#039;s great fun.  I was a little offended he called Arabic &quot;an exotic alphabet&quot;, it&#039;s more widely used than Cyrillic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Embarrassed to say I confused the Croatian with Serbian and the Macedonian with Bulgarian, otherwise it&#8217;s great fun.  I was a little offended he called Arabic &#8220;an exotic alphabet&#8221;, it&#8217;s more widely used than Cyrillic.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Whyte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas Whyte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2004 16:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, glad you enjoyed it, folks! And if anyone can advise me how to prevent the next link from appearing in the status bar, I&#039;d appreciate the help...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hey, glad you enjoyed it, folks! And if anyone can advise me how to prevent the next link from appearing in the status bar, I&#8217;d appreciate the help&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cryptic Ned</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/09/08/mcdonalds-language-quiz/comment-page-1/#comment-41877</link>
		<dc:creator>Cryptic Ned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2004 16:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s cool!  I got them all except for Croatian (guessed Czech and Slovenian first; if the passage included the d with a line through it, I would have got it), and Macedonian and Bulgarian (guessed Belarusan for both).Lucky guess to say Danish at first instead of Norwegian; can anyone point me to any telltale differences between these languages?  I like to be able to recognize things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>That&#8217;s cool!  I got them all except for Croatian (guessed Czech and Slovenian first; if the passage included the d with a line through it, I would have got it), and Macedonian and Bulgarian (guessed Belarusan for both).Lucky guess to say Danish at first instead of Norwegian; can anyone point me to any telltale differences between these languages?  I like to be able to recognize things.</p>
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		<title>By: Cryptic Ned</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/09/08/mcdonalds-language-quiz/comment-page-1/#comment-41876</link>
		<dc:creator>Cryptic Ned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2004 16:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s cool!  I got them all except for Croatian (guessed Czech and Slovenian first; if the passage included the d with a line through it, I would have got it), and Macedonian and Bulgarian (guessed Belarusan for both).Lucky guess to say Danish at first instead of Norwegian; can anyone point me to any telltale differences between these languages?  I like to be able to recognize things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>That&#8217;s cool!  I got them all except for Croatian (guessed Czech and Slovenian first; if the passage included the d with a line through it, I would have got it), and Macedonian and Bulgarian (guessed Belarusan for both).Lucky guess to say Danish at first instead of Norwegian; can anyone point me to any telltale differences between these languages?  I like to be able to recognize things.</p>
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		<title>By: language hat</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/09/08/mcdonalds-language-quiz/comment-page-1/#comment-41875</link>
		<dc:creator>language hat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2004 15:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is fantastic!  I screwed up the Scandahoovian languages first time through, so I learned something.  (To compensate, I got the Georgian right even though I couldn&#039;t see the letters!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This is fantastic!  I screwed up the Scandahoovian languages first time through, so I learned something.  (To compensate, I got the Georgian right even though I couldn&#8217;t see the letters!)</p>
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		<title>By: KCinDC</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/09/08/mcdonalds-language-quiz/comment-page-1/#comment-41874</link>
		<dc:creator>KCinDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2004 14:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know our strange American names are hard for you furriners, but it&#039;s McDonald&#039;s, not Macdonald&#039;s.[Sorry - fixed this. CB]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I know our strange American names are hard for you furriners, but it&#8217;s McDonald&#8217;s, not Macdonald&#8217;s.[Sorry &#8211; fixed this. CB]</p>
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		<title>By: Sander</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/09/08/mcdonalds-language-quiz/comment-page-1/#comment-41873</link>
		<dc:creator>Sander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2004 14:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got most of them right (had trouble with discerning the slavic languages), but after a while I found out that the statusbar shows the link to either &#039;wrong.html&#039;, &#039;wronga.html&#039; or &#039;long.html&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I got most of them right (had trouble with discerning the slavic languages), but after a while I found out that the statusbar shows the link to either &#8216;wrong.html&#8217;, &#8216;wronga.html&#8217; or &#8216;long.html&#8217;.</p>
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