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	<title>Comments on: &#8230; and co-decision with the Council of Ministers applies!</title>
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		<title>By: Antoni Jaume</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/10/11/and-co-decision-with-the-council-of-ministers-applies/comment-page-1/#comment-45774</link>
		<dc:creator>Antoni Jaume</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2004 19:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Giles, I&#039;ve verified your link, and what it says there is not what you seems to mean. Firstly I reckon there is a typo, the sentence you cite should read “The practice of a person being given two family names became the custom in Spain largely because of Arabic influence”. Secondly that does no imply Spanish surnames to be of Arabic ethymology. There are a lot of Arabic surnames, but Vega isn&#039;t one of them. Jaume is Catalan for James from low Latin Iacomus, from Iacobus. For example Arrom, Rom, Arrumí, Rumí, are Arabic, they mean &quot;the roman&quot; and was applied to Christians, so when used as a common name it is frequently translated as &quot;Christian&quot; or &quot;Unfaithful&quot;. Other Arabic surnamesare Alcántara, Almohedano, Mesquida, Mirabete, Amorós, Alcaide, Alcalde, etc. The frequent ending in &quot;z&quot; (Gómez, Sánchez, Rodríguez, ...) has roots in a Basque suffix, and has the general meaning of &quot;son of&quot;: Pérez is equivalent to Peterson, ...Now you may know something.DSW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Giles, I&#8217;ve verified your link, and what it says there is not what you seems to mean. Firstly I reckon there is a typo, the sentence you cite should read &#8220;The practice of a person being given two family names became the custom in Spain largely because of Arabic influence&#8221;. Secondly that does no imply Spanish surnames to be of Arabic ethymology. There are a lot of Arabic surnames, but Vega isn&#8217;t one of them. Jaume is Catalan for James from low Latin Iacomus, from Iacobus. For example Arrom, Rom, Arrum&#237;, Rum&#237;, are Arabic, they mean &#8220;the roman&#8221; and was applied to Christians, so when used as a common name it is frequently translated as &#8220;Christian&#8221; or &#8220;Unfaithful&#8221;. Other Arabic surnamesare Alc&#225;ntara, Almohedano, Mesquida, Mirabete, Amor&#243;s, Alcaide, Alcalde, etc. The frequent ending in &#8220;z&#8221; (G&#243;mez, S&#225;nchez, Rodr&#237;guez, &#8230;) has roots in a Basque suffix, and has the general meaning of &#8220;son of&#8221;: P&#233;rez is equivalent to Peterson, &#8230;Now you may know something.<span class="caps">DSW</span></p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/10/11/and-co-decision-with-the-council-of-ministers-applies/comment-page-1/#comment-45773</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2004 22:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any idea of how I can get a copy of the whole thing?  I&#039;ve a EU law exam coming up in about 2 months and it might help me finally remember how to keep the commission and the council straight</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Any idea of how I can get a copy of the whole thing?  I&#8217;ve a EU law exam coming up in about 2 months and it might help me finally remember how to keep the commission and the council straight</p>
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		<title>By: Giles</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/10/11/and-co-decision-with-the-council-of-ministers-applies/comment-page-1/#comment-45772</link>
		<dc:creator>Giles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2004 22:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The practice of a person being given to family names became the custom in Spain largely because of Arabic influence&quot;http://spanish.about.com/cs/culture/a/surnames.htmIf surnames arose in Spain through arabic influence I think that&#039;s unlikely Jaume</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;The practice of a person being given to family names became the custom in Spain largely because of Arabic influence&#8221;<a href="http://spanish.about.com/cs/culture/a/surnames.htm" rel="nofollow">http://spanish.about.com/cs/culture/a/surnames.htm</a>If surnames arose in Spain through arabic influence I think that&#8217;s unlikely Jaume</p>
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		<title>By: Antoni Jaume</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/10/11/and-co-decision-with-the-council-of-ministers-applies/comment-page-1/#comment-45771</link>
		<dc:creator>Antoni Jaume</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2004 13:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Spain, Vega is not only not arabic but even pre-roman, but not Basque. DSW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>In Spain, Vega is not only not arabic but even pre-roman, but not Basque. <span class="caps">DSW</span></p>
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		<title>By: Peter Murphy</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/10/11/and-co-decision-with-the-council-of-ministers-applies/comment-page-1/#comment-45770</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the subject of Tintin, I think the comic book authors should have livened it up with everybody&#039;s favourite detective duo: Thompson and Thomson - now repackaged as MEPs from the U.K. Load it up with couplets like: &quot;Co-decision with the Council of Ministers applies!&quot; &quot;I mean! The derision of hounding sinister supplies!&quot; Even the Eurosceptics would get a chuckle from it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>On the subject of Tintin, I think the comic book authors should have livened it up with everybody&#8217;s favourite detective duo: Thompson and Thomson &#8211; now repackaged as MEPs from the U.K. Load it up with couplets like: &#8220;Co-decision with the Council of Ministers applies!&#8221; &#8220;I mean! The derision of hounding sinister supplies!&#8221; Even the Eurosceptics would get a chuckle from it.</p>
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		<title>By: jb</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/10/11/and-co-decision-with-the-council-of-ministers-applies/comment-page-1/#comment-45769</link>
		<dc:creator>jb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2004 01:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>on the etymology point, i wouldn&#039;t be too sure about the &quot;no arabs hiding there&quot; bit.  you have to keep in mind that arabic was a pretty strong influence on spanish.granted, you have to go back a bit.  but i&#039;ll bet the now normative spanish word is indeed arab in origin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>on the etymology point, i wouldn&#8217;t be too sure about the &#8220;no arabs hiding there&#8221; bit.  you have to keep in mind that arabic was a pretty strong influence on spanish.granted, you have to go back a bit.  but i&#8217;ll bet the now normative spanish word is indeed arab in origin.</p>
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		<title>By: KCinDC</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/10/11/and-co-decision-with-the-council-of-ministers-applies/comment-page-1/#comment-45768</link>
		<dc:creator>KCinDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2004 01:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Giles, &lt;a href=&quot;http://genealogy.about.com/library/surnames/v/bl_name-VEGA.htm&quot;&gt;Vega the surname&lt;/a&gt; isn&#039;t related to Vega the star. It&#039;s Spanish for (according to my Harper Collins dictionary) &quot;fertile plain; valley&quot;. No Arabs hiding there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Giles, <a href="http://genealogy.about.com/library/surnames/v/bl_name-VEGA.htm">Vega the surname</a> isn&#8217;t related to Vega the star. It&#8217;s Spanish for (according to my Harper Collins dictionary) &#8220;fertile plain; valley&#8221;. No Arabs hiding there.</p>
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		<title>By: Giles</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/10/11/and-co-decision-with-the-council-of-ministers-applies/comment-page-1/#comment-45767</link>
		<dc:creator>Giles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2004 22:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here’s the meainig of the name:--IRINA   fUsage: Russian, Bulgarian, Romanian, FinnishRussian, Bulgarian, Romanian and Finnish form of IRENE IRENE   fDerived from Greek eirene meaning &quot;peace&quot;. Irene was the Greek goddess of peace. Another famous bearer was an 8th-century Byzantine empress, the first woman to lead the Empire. She originally served as regent for her son, but later had him killed and ruled alone. VEGA   fUsage: AstronomyThe name of a star in the constellation Lyra. Its name is from Arabic (Al-Nasr) Al-Waqi meaning &quot;the swooping (eagle)&quot;. So ironically the “heroine” is probably not from the EEC but is a sounds Slavic but ahs Arab conotations.  Which is unfortunate because later in the series we’re probably going to discover that she’s either selling uranium to the Russians or planning to sell water to the Arabs.  Or at least her name leaves this avenue of attack open to ukip et al!Still priceless – can we have more please?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Here&#8217;s the meainig of the name:&#8212;<span class="caps">IRINA  </span> fUsage: Russian, Bulgarian, Romanian, FinnishRussian, Bulgarian, Romanian and Finnish form of <span class="caps">IRENE </span>IRENE   fDerived from Greek eirene meaning &#8220;peace&#8221;. Irene was the Greek goddess of peace. Another famous bearer was an 8th-century Byzantine empress, the first woman to lead the Empire. She originally served as regent for her son, but later had him killed and ruled alone. <span class="caps">VEGA  </span> fUsage: AstronomyThe name of a star in the constellation Lyra. Its name is from Arabic (Al-Nasr) Al-Waqi meaning &#8220;the swooping (eagle)&#8221;. So ironically the &#8220;heroine&#8221; is probably not from the <span class="caps">EEC</span> but is a sounds Slavic but ahs Arab conotations.  Which is unfortunate because later in the series we&#8217;re probably going to discover that she&#8217;s either selling uranium to the Russians or planning to sell water to the Arabs.  Or at least her name leaves this avenue of attack open to ukip et al!Still priceless &#8211; can we have more please?</p>
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		<title>By: Kieran Healy</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/10/11/and-co-decision-with-the-council-of-ministers-applies/comment-page-1/#comment-45766</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieran Healy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2004 22:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The topic is pollution, the setting is the EU bureaucracy, and the characters -- well, just look at them. This thing should absolutely have been called _Eurotrash_.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The topic is pollution, the setting is the EU bureaucracy, and the characters&#8212;well, just look at them. This thing should absolutely have been called <em>Eurotrash</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: Antoni Jaume</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/10/11/and-co-decision-with-the-council-of-ministers-applies/comment-page-1/#comment-45765</link>
		<dc:creator>Antoni Jaume</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2004 20:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If &quot;Irina Vega&quot; is neither Irish nor Danish, it would rather be because such countries are small, than the supposition that Europeans do not migrate. Usually Vega came from Spain, but too from Latin-America, and economical migrants or exiles may have easily brought that name to any of the two. Irina may be Slavic or Greek, but is sometime used in other countries that have no direct relation with them. DSW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If &#8220;Irina Vega&#8221; is neither Irish nor Danish, it would rather be because such countries are small, than the supposition that Europeans do not migrate. Usually Vega came from Spain, but too from Latin-America, and economical migrants or exiles may have easily brought that name to any of the two. Irina may be Slavic or Greek, but is sometime used in other countries that have no direct relation with them. <span class="caps">DSW</span></p>
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		<title>By: Matt McGrattan</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/10/11/and-co-decision-with-the-council-of-ministers-applies/comment-page-1/#comment-45764</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt McGrattan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2004 19:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The art and the typography look pretty Hergé-esque (with a modern veneer) to me.&quot;Tintin and the Corridors of Power&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The art and the typography look pretty Herg&#233;-esque (with a modern veneer) to me.&#8220;Tintin and the Corridors of Power&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Saheli Datta</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/10/11/and-co-decision-with-the-council-of-ministers-applies/comment-page-1/#comment-45763</link>
		<dc:creator>Saheli Datta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2004 18:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Years to come? &lt;i&gt;Years to come?&lt;/i&gt; Hell, I wanna run out and buy my copy &lt;i&gt;now&lt;/i&gt;!! This is awesome! Bring this on stateside!I mean, sheesh, if Homeland Security is going to be so useless, it might as well provide us with graphic novels!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Years to come? <i>Years to come?</i> Hell, I wanna run out and buy my copy <i>now</i>!! This is awesome! Bring this on stateside!I mean, sheesh, if Homeland Security is going to be so useless, it might as well provide us with graphic novels!</p>
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		<title>By: Saheli Datta</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/10/11/and-co-decision-with-the-council-of-ministers-applies/comment-page-1/#comment-45762</link>
		<dc:creator>Saheli Datta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2004 18:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Years to come? &lt;i&gt;Years to come?&lt;/i&gt; Hell, I wanna run out and buy my copy &lt;i&gt;now&lt;/i&gt;!! This is awesome! Bring this on stateside!I mean, sheesh, if Homeland Security is going to be so useless, it might as well provide us with graphic novels!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Years to come? <i>Years to come?</i> Hell, I wanna run out and buy my copy <i>now</i>!! This is awesome! Bring this on stateside!I mean, sheesh, if Homeland Security is going to be so useless, it might as well provide us with graphic novels!</p>
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		<title>By: Saheli Datta</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/10/11/and-co-decision-with-the-council-of-ministers-applies/comment-page-1/#comment-45761</link>
		<dc:creator>Saheli Datta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2004 18:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Years to come? &lt;i&gt;Years to come?&lt;/i&gt; Hell, I wanna run out and buy my copy &lt;i&gt;now&lt;/i&gt;!! This is awesome! Bring this on stateside!I mean, sheesh, if Homeland Security is going to be so useless, it might as well provide us with graphic novels!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Years to come? <i>Years to come?</i> Hell, I wanna run out and buy my copy <i>now</i>!! This is awesome! Bring this on stateside!I mean, sheesh, if Homeland Security is going to be so useless, it might as well provide us with graphic novels!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/10/11/and-co-decision-with-the-council-of-ministers-applies/comment-page-1/#comment-45760</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2004 18:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha! I got that comic on my visit, too. The art actually isn&#039;t too bad, but the story, especially when compared to what actually takes place, is like a Parliamentarian&#039;s wet dream... in nearly every way. Who knew the cultural appeal of James Bond was so pervasive. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ha! I got that comic on my visit, too. The art actually isn&#8217;t too bad, but the story, especially when compared to what actually takes place, is like a Parliamentarian&#8217;s wet dream&#8230; in nearly every way. Who knew the cultural appeal of James Bond was so pervasive.</p>
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