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	<title>Comments on: Rawls trivia: new edition of Political Liberalism</title>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2004 09:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on. Really. How could you possibly go through three copies of any book, no matter how shoddily made it is. Do you suggest that, in the last nine years, assuming that you bought the book upon its immediate release, you read and reread PL so many times that you destroyed three copies?!!!! First, how many reads does it take you to comprehend Rawls&#039; thesis. Its relatively straightforward, and has undergone only slight revision since TJ. This is not the Critique of Pure Reason. Second, why on earth would anyone read, or purport to read, PL that many times? Are you looking for the Straussian sub-text that lies beneath the mere superficial exterior meaning? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Come on. Really. How could you possibly go through three copies of any book, no matter how shoddily made it is. Do you suggest that, in the last nine years, assuming that you bought the book upon its immediate release, you read and reread PL so many times that you destroyed three copies?<img src="!" alt="" border="0" />! First, how many reads does it take you to comprehend Rawls&#8217; thesis. Its relatively straightforward, and has undergone only slight revision since TJ. This is not the Critique of Pure Reason. Second, why on earth would anyone read, or purport to read, PL that many times? Are you looking for the Straussian sub-text that lies beneath the mere superficial exterior meaning?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2004 22:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spheres of Justice is published by Basic, the same publisher as ASU.  I think they tend to publish a fair number of books like this- not too technical, fairly quick reading philosophy books written w/ the hopes of reaching more than just the academic market.  (I think Dennett Published something w/ them a while ago.)  I can see why they would want to publish Walzer, though, since he was already established in a wide audience by academic standards w/ Just and Unjust Wars several years before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Spheres of Justice is published by Basic, the same publisher as <span class="caps">ASU</span>.  I think they tend to publish a fair number of books like this- not too technical, fairly quick reading philosophy books written w/ the hopes of reaching more than just the academic market.  (I think Dennett Published something w/ them a while ago.)  I can see why they would want to publish Walzer, though, since he was already established in a wide audience by academic standards w/ Just and Unjust Wars several years before.</p>
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		<title>By: harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2004 22:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be surprised if ASU has sold better, because TJ has sold astonishingly well. But NO-ONE EXPECTED IT TO. I&#039;m sure that Harvard expected a standard 1000 or so sales, maybe a few more given Rawls&#039;s reach into the profession. But a long, poorly written and complex book in a moribund field...Look further down joel and you&#039;ll see that chris b has something on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;d be surprised if <span class="caps">ASU</span> has sold better, because TJ has sold astonishingly well. But NO-ONE <span class="caps">EXPECTED IT TO</span>. I&#8217;m sure that Harvard expected a standard 1000 or so sales, maybe a few more given Rawls&#8217;s reach into the profession. But a long, poorly written and complex book in a moribund field&#8230;Look further down joel and you&#8217;ll see that chris b has something on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Turnipseed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel Turnipseed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: Why Nozick publish w/private sector?Probably because Nozick was a much funnier, and better, writer. Rawls is a GIANT, (and seeing that list of Rawls, Nozick, Walzer makes me wonder: w/that trio, why haven&#039;t liberals stomped ass on those whose background is, Russell Kirk, William F. Buckley, and Irving Kristol?) unquestionably, but not a great writer. I don&#039;t know what their respective sales figures are, but my guess is that Nozick simply sold better because he was more engaging &amp; so could go to commercial presses (tho&#039; wasn&#039;t SoJ published by commercial press, too)?Also: I&#039;ve been away: anyone post on the Fodor piece in LRB?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>re: Why Nozick publish w/private sector?Probably because Nozick was a much funnier, and better, writer. Rawls is a <span class="caps">GIANT</span>, (and seeing that list of Rawls, Nozick, Walzer makes me wonder: w/that trio, why haven&#8217;t liberals stomped ass on those whose background is, Russell Kirk, William F. Buckley, and Irving Kristol?) unquestionably, but not a great writer. I don&#8217;t know what their respective sales figures are, but my guess is that Nozick simply sold better because he was more engaging &#038; so could go to commercial presses (tho&#8217; wasn&#8217;t SoJ published by commercial press, too)?Also: I&#8217;ve been away: anyone post on the Fodor piece in <span class="caps">LRB</span>?</p>
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		<title>By: PG</title>
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		<dc:creator>PG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2004 02:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:-) My paperbacks of Theory of Justice (Harvard), Political Liberalism (CUP) and Anarchy, State and Utopia (Basic Books) are all in good shape, but that may be what happens when you read books twice, at most.BTW, is there a reason why Nozick didn&#039;t publish with a university press while Rawls did? (Other than the former&#039;s preference for the private sector... Harvard and Columbia are private schools, at least.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>:-) My paperbacks of Theory of Justice (Harvard), Political Liberalism (CUP) and Anarchy, State and Utopia (Basic Books) are all in good shape, but that may be what happens when you read books twice, at most.<span class="caps">BTW</span>, is there a reason why Nozick didn&#8217;t publish with a university press while Rawls did? (Other than the former&#8217;s preference for the private sector&#8230; Harvard and Columbia are private schools, at least.)</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Carr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2004 22:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Foreword,&quot; not &quot;forward.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Foreword,&#8221; not &#8220;forward.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: bob mcmanus</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob mcmanus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2004 22:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Digitize them all. Encrypt them, make them available for download. Update online as in software. Waste of trees and old shirts.I suppose y&#039;all will think me a sick puppy, but I hate books. I am as I write staring at the same wall-to-ceiling shelves of brightly-colored fine volumes I was staring at ten years ago. Literally thousands. They are fragile, massive, unwieldy to use in combination. Our civilization has obviously moved past the point of caring if these artifacts as artifacts last centuries. And eternal ideas deserve better containers. Digitize them all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Digitize them all. Encrypt them, make them available for download. Update online as in software. Waste of trees and old shirts.I suppose y&#8217;all will think me a sick puppy, but I hate books. I am as I write staring at the same wall-to-ceiling shelves of brightly-colored fine volumes I was staring at ten years ago. Literally thousands. They are fragile, massive, unwieldy to use in combination. Our civilization has obviously moved past the point of caring if these artifacts as artifacts last centuries. And eternal ideas deserve better containers. Digitize them all.</p>
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		<title>By: micah</title>
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		<dc:creator>micah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2004 21:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re right, Dave. Mystery solved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I think you&#8217;re right, Dave. Mystery solved.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2004 21:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My guess--and I think it&#039;s a damn good one--is that Political Liberalism is published by Columbia for the same reason that Quine&#039;s Ontological Relativity, Putnam&#039;s Three-fold Cord, and Dummett&#039;s Truth &amp; the Past are all also published by Columbia, even though none of these authors typically use that press: a good chunk of each book consists of the Dewey Lectures given at Columbia by each of the authors.  There&#039;s probably, then, some deal where you give the Dewey Lectures and Columbia gets to publish them (and some other stuff, since each of the above books contains more than just the Dewey Lectures.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>My guess&#8212;and I think it&#8217;s a damn good one&#8212;is that Political Liberalism is published by Columbia for the same reason that Quine&#8217;s Ontological Relativity, Putnam&#8217;s Three-fold Cord, and Dummett&#8217;s Truth &#038; the Past are all also published by Columbia, even though none of these authors typically use that press: a good chunk of each book consists of the Dewey Lectures given at Columbia by each of the authors.  There&#8217;s probably, then, some deal where you give the Dewey Lectures and Columbia gets to publish them (and some other stuff, since each of the above books contains more than just the Dewey Lectures.)</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2004 21:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, my &lt;em&gt;Kristeva Reader&lt;/em&gt; did the same thing, as well as some other CUP books I can&#039;t recall the titles of.  Physically lousy books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yes, my <em>Kristeva Reader</em> did the same thing, as well as some other <span class="caps">CUP</span> books I can&#8217;t recall the titles of.  Physically lousy books.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob T. Levy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob T. Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2004 21:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The CUP page is behind the times.  There will be no Nussbaum introduction.  (As far as I know the rest of the information is correct.)My PL is hardcover-- came out at the end of my senior year of college, and was my first-ever hot-off-the-press-gotta-have-it-now hardcover academic monograph purchase-- and it&#039;s held up fine, but obviously I don&#039;t know about the pb.I think the republication with &quot;Public Reason&quot; is justified; it intellectually belongs in PL, not in LP.  And, insofar as lots of people are going to buy PL but not Collected Papers (which really is for the Rawls-obsessed among us), there&#039;s only benefit in their getting his final judgment on some of PL&#039;s central questions.(No idea about why Columbia rather than Harvard.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The <span class="caps">CUP</span> page is behind the times.  There will be no Nussbaum introduction.  (As far as I know the rest of the information is correct.)My PL is hardcover&#8212;came out at the end of my senior year of college, and was my first-ever hot-off-the-press-gotta-have-it-now hardcover academic monograph purchase&#8212;and it&#8217;s held up fine, but obviously I don&#8217;t know about the pb.I think the republication with &#8220;Public Reason&#8221; is justified; it intellectually belongs in PL, not in LP.  And, insofar as lots of people are going to buy PL but not Collected Papers (which really is for the Rawls-obsessed among us), there&#8217;s only benefit in their getting his final judgment on some of PL&#8217;s central questions.(No idea about why Columbia rather than Harvard.)</p>
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		<title>By: lemuel pitkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>lemuel pitkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. This is the least interesting CT post I&#039;ve ever read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Wow. This is the least interesting CT post I&#8217;ve ever read.</p>
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