http://crookedtimber.org/2004/10/20/its-not-too-late/ Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made Sat, 26 May 2012 05:35:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 http://crookedtimber.org/2004/10/20/its-not-too-late/comment-page-1/#comment-47056 jet Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:08:26 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=2387#comment-47056 I'll bet the farm that the bill or that portion is scuttled. Probably only because the arguements you are making now would be made by their oppenents in the next round of elections, not because of any moral complication with torture. We are, after all, speaking of politicians, whose morality is, at best, deeply suspect. I’ll bet the farm that the bill or that portion is scuttled. Probably only because the arguements you are making now would be made by their oppenents in the next round of elections, not because of any moral complication with torture. We are, after all, speaking of politicians, whose morality is, at best, deeply suspect.

]]> http://crookedtimber.org/2004/10/20/its-not-too-late/comment-page-1/#comment-47055 bncthor Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:49:16 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=2387#comment-47055 I would like for an advocate of the use of torture - outsourced or not - to explain how such makes a nation or society safer, in the past, now, or in the future. I would like for an advocate of the use of torture – outsourced or not – to explain how such makes a nation or society safer, in the past, now, or in the future.

]]> http://crookedtimber.org/2004/10/20/its-not-too-late/comment-page-1/#comment-47054 djw Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:37:11 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=2387#comment-47054 The good news is those are some of the more independent and sane Republicans in the Senate (Collins, Voinovich, Sununu). The question to ask the House leaders: "Are you really willing to scuttle an important bill with a really popular sounding name if you can't legalize outsourcing torture?" I can't imagine the answer would be yes, but then I can't imagine why they put this in the bill in the first place, so what do I know? The good news is those are some of the more independent and sane Republicans in the Senate (Collins, Voinovich, Sununu). The question to ask the House leaders: “Are you really willing to scuttle an important bill with a really popular sounding name if you can’t legalize outsourcing torture?” I can’t imagine the answer would be yes, but then I can’t imagine why they put this in the bill in the first place, so what do I know?

]]> http://crookedtimber.org/2004/10/20/its-not-too-late/comment-page-1/#comment-47053 maurinsky Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:10:12 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=2387#comment-47053 Well, I could write to my senator, Mr. Lieberman, but it would be fruitless, because no matter what I send to him, I always get a "thank you for supporting Joe Lieberman" letter in reply, with no indication that the content of my letter was understood and noted. Well, I could write to my senator, Mr. Lieberman, but it would be fruitless, because no matter what I send to him, I always get a “thank you for supporting Joe Lieberman” letter in reply, with no indication that the content of my letter was understood and noted.

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