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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/11/03/election-night-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-49024</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2004 04:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why such hatred of our good President?  What has he done to harm or diminish your life, personally?  Do you realize how ridiculous you sound?  President George W. Bush is a brave and principled man who is trying his best to make this country safe for all of us.  You should at least appreciate that, if nothing else.In any case it is so enjoyable to see all of you pinheads broiling in all your hatred and rage.  It&#039;s all over except for the shouting!Don&#039;t worry, you&#039;ll win another day. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Why such hatred of our good President?  What has he done to harm or diminish your life, personally?  Do you realize how ridiculous you sound?  President George W. Bush is a brave and principled man who is trying his best to make this country safe for all of us.  You should at least appreciate that, if nothing else.In any case it is so enjoyable to see all of you pinheads broiling in all your hatred and rage.  It&#8217;s all over except for the shouting!Don&#8217;t worry, you&#8217;ll win another day.</p>
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		<title>By: Nat Whilk</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/11/03/election-night-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-49023</link>
		<dc:creator>Nat Whilk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 14:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walt Pohl wrote:  &lt;i&gt;&quot;Sorry, poupon, but I was the only one suggesting that Bush is stealing it.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;All those posters at the DailyKos are you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Walt Pohl wrote:  <i>&#8220;Sorry, poupon, but I was the only one suggesting that Bush is stealing it.&#8221;</i>All those posters at the DailyKos are you?</p>
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		<title>By: rps</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/11/03/election-night-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-49022</link>
		<dc:creator>rps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 14:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does it take to break the deadlock in this country?  If an incompetent bumbling idiot Republican can win in a close election, I assume any halfway competent Republican who can avoid getting us into a quagmire and negative job growth will win in a landslide.On the other hand, the Republican candidate might personally rape every single undecided voters&#039; mother before their very eyes while pouring sugar in their gas tanks and defecating on the Bible.  Given what we saw this year, it seems that this is what it would take for the Democrat to win. If we couldn&#039;t win in 2004, I don&#039;t see how we can even come close in a normal year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>What does it take to break the deadlock in this country?  If an incompetent bumbling idiot Republican can win in a close election, I assume any halfway competent Republican who can avoid getting us into a quagmire and negative job growth will win in a landslide.On the other hand, the Republican candidate might personally rape every single undecided voters&#8217; mother before their very eyes while pouring sugar in their gas tanks and defecating on the Bible.  Given what we saw this year, it seems that this is what it would take for the Democrat to win. If we couldn&#8217;t win in 2004, I don&#8217;t see how we can even come close in a normal year.</p>
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		<title>By: dsquared</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/11/03/election-night-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-49021</link>
		<dc:creator>dsquared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 13:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey, looks like Nader cost the Dems New Mexico!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>hey, looks like Nader cost the Dems New Mexico!</p>
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		<title>By: John Isbell</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/11/03/election-night-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-49020</link>
		<dc:creator>John Isbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Kieran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hey Kieran.</p>
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		<title>By: toby</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/11/03/election-night-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-49019</link>
		<dc:creator>toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 08:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohio: Bush&#039;s margin now out to 144,000</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ohio: Bush&#8217;s margin now out to 144,000</p>
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		<title>By: Clark Goble</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/11/03/election-night-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-49018</link>
		<dc:creator>Clark Goble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 08:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s 1:30 here (MST) and it looks like Bush takes NM, NV, and IA.  With a Bush victory nearly a statistical certainty in OH, that gives Bush I believe 288 electorial votes.  (I&#039;m slightly sleepy - so forgive me if my addition was wrong)I&#039;m surprised.  I voted for Bush, albeit very reluctantly.  But even though I thought Kerry a horrible candidate (thus my vote for Bush) I truly thought the Democrats would have had an easy win.  Even with Kerry&#039;s flubs all summer, I still thought he&#039;d win it handily and perhaps in a landslide.  When the exit polls gave Kerry so many important states this afternoon, I figured it was over.  Color me surprised.The big loser? The poller.  Ought we give them much attention from now on? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It&#8217;s 1:30 here (MST) and it looks like Bush takes NM, NV, and IA.  With a Bush victory nearly a statistical certainty in OH, that gives Bush I believe 288 electorial votes.  (I&#8217;m slightly sleepy &#8211; so forgive me if my addition was wrong)I&#8217;m surprised.  I voted for Bush, albeit very reluctantly.  But even though I thought Kerry a horrible candidate (thus my vote for Bush) I truly thought the Democrats would have had an easy win.  Even with Kerry&#8217;s flubs all summer, I still thought he&#8217;d win it handily and perhaps in a landslide.  When the exit polls gave Kerry so many important states this afternoon, I figured it was over.  Color me surprised.The big loser? The poller.  Ought we give them much attention from now on?</p>
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		<title>By: toby</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/11/03/election-night-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-49017</link>
		<dc:creator>toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 08:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohio: CSPAN says Bush still 127,000 ahead. BBC says Dems claiming 250,000 votes yet to be counted. Bush only needs approx 60,000 of these.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ohio: <span class="caps">CSPAN</span> says Bush still 127,000 ahead. <span class="caps">BBC</span> says Dems claiming 250,000 votes yet to be counted. Bush only needs approx 60,000 of these.</p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 07:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great, Bush wins! Now hopefully the rest of the world can get over the illusion that 2000 was an aberration, specifically the EU, and start working together to get out from underneath the American thumb. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Great, Bush wins! Now hopefully the rest of the world can get over the illusion that 2000 was an aberration, specifically the EU, and start working together to get out from underneath the American thumb.</p>
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		<title>By: Walt Pohl</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/11/03/election-night-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-49015</link>
		<dc:creator>Walt Pohl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 07:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, poupon, but I was the only one suggesting that Bush is stealing it.  I know that people of your ilk think everyone to the left of you is identical, but tragically no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Sorry, poupon, but I was the only one suggesting that Bush is stealing it.  I know that people of your ilk think everyone to the left of you is identical, but tragically no.</p>
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		<title>By: SomeCallMeTim</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/11/03/election-night-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-49014</link>
		<dc:creator>SomeCallMeTim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 07:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, they&#039;ve won.  It&#039;s time to accept it, batten down the hatches, burrow into our beds, and pray that the coming winter isn&#039;t a nuclear one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Look, they&#8217;ve won.  It&#8217;s time to accept it, batten down the hatches, burrow into our beds, and pray that the coming winter isn&#8217;t a nuclear one.</p>
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		<title>By: John O'Brien</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/11/03/election-night-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-49013</link>
		<dc:creator>John O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 07:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The vote, if Kerry doesn&#039;t win it, will have much more to do with the heartland&#039;s drooling lust for a couple year&#039;s worth of our gross national product, than anyone dares to mention. The Elephant in the Livingroom is crunching civilians under its endangered hooves like peanut shells, yet only The Lancet seems to notice.  The oil under the ground will still be there anyway, even if we bomb the last Iraqi to pieces; their blood will only sink in an inch or two into the dirt and will be blown away with the hot dust. They chose that those years of wealth will have a United States armed guard daily covering the spigot, maybe their son. (It can be a tough logistics problem, that with the dead bodies, but the nazis solved that and these guys are taking their cues. See Neiwart) That&#039;s all they have ever cared about, is the oil. When in the first days of the invasion they occupied the Oil Ministry and its wells &amp; pipelines, and nowhere else,they were stating by their armoured body-language that looting is encouraged anywhere else. The error the left made was to think that cheney and rummy simply hadn&#039;t planned for the occupation. What if this was the plan? Anarchy in the country means no Iraqi lever to control the oil, no money. The bushies don&#039;t even really contest this. Sadly, I think it may be a mistake to think that more than half the bushvoters are really stupid; I think as Doonesbury indicates that they like Smirky McGod feel properly Roman and entitled to their gasoline. The greedy eyes may yet have it in this election, while they steal the right to vote from people like me in Ohio and Florida. But there are a lot of us who will contest this election, perhaps for decades, but certainly for longer than the next four more years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The vote, if Kerry doesn&#8217;t win it, will have much more to do with the heartland&#8217;s drooling lust for a couple year&#8217;s worth of our gross national product, than anyone dares to mention. The Elephant in the Livingroom is crunching civilians under its endangered hooves like peanut shells, yet only The Lancet seems to notice.  The oil under the ground will still be there anyway, even if we bomb the last Iraqi to pieces; their blood will only sink in an inch or two into the dirt and will be blown away with the hot dust. They chose that those years of wealth will have a United States armed guard daily covering the spigot, maybe their son. (It can be a tough logistics problem, that with the dead bodies, but the nazis solved that and these guys are taking their cues. See Neiwart) That&#8217;s all they have ever cared about, is the oil. When in the first days of the invasion they occupied the Oil Ministry and its wells &#038; pipelines, and nowhere else,they were stating by their armoured body-language that looting is encouraged anywhere else. The error the left made was to think that cheney and rummy simply hadn&#8217;t planned for the occupation. What if this was the plan? Anarchy in the country means no Iraqi lever to control the oil, no money. The bushies don&#8217;t even really contest this. Sadly, I think it may be a mistake to think that more than half the bushvoters are really stupid; I think as Doonesbury indicates that they like Smirky McGod feel properly Roman and entitled to their gasoline. The greedy eyes may yet have it in this election, while they steal the right to vote from people like me in Ohio and Florida. But there are a lot of us who will contest this election, perhaps for decades, but certainly for longer than the next four more years.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenya</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/11/03/election-night-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-49012</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 06:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exit polls are notoriously unreliable. When the respondents believe they will give an unpopular answer, they often give the &quot;acceptable&quot; answer even if it is not true.  L. Douglas Wilder&#039;s election to governor is the best example that comes to mind.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Exit polls are notoriously unreliable. When the respondents believe they will give an unpopular answer, they often give the &#8220;acceptable&#8221; answer even if it is not true.  L. Douglas Wilder&#8217;s election to governor is the best example that comes to mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 06:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations to the USA.You just chose between whiny destructive carping and bumbling actions for good, and chose well.Now if we had had 4 more Clinton years, would the Starr Republicans have grown up?  And will we see a decent left?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Congratulations to the <span class="caps">USA</span>.You just chose between whiny destructive carping and bumbling actions for good, and chose well.Now if we had had 4 more Clinton years, would the Starr Republicans have grown up?  And will we see a decent left?</p>
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		<title>By: Shai</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/11/03/election-night-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-49010</link>
		<dc:creator>Shai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 06:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s amazing how fast you pseuds turned from ‘Kerry is going to win’ to ‘Bush cheated’. Congratulations on not disapointing.&quot;it&#039;s more likely you don&#039;t know how to read</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s amazing how fast you pseuds turned from &#8216;Kerry is going to win&#8217; to &#8216;Bush cheated&#8217;. Congratulations on not disapointing.&#8221;it&#8217;s more likely you don&#8217;t know how to read</p>
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