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		<title>By: Crooked Timber &#187; &#187; Student blogs</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/12/20/privacy-in-the-age-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-113644</link>
		<dc:creator>Crooked Timber &#187; &#187; Student blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 19:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In case you&#8217;re wondering about the curious blog names, I encourage students to blog without their real names for privacy (and in compliance with FERPA guidelines). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[...] In case you&#8217;re wondering about the curious blog names, I encourage students to blog without their real names for privacy (and in compliance with <span class="caps">FERPA</span> guidelines). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: R J Keefe</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/12/20/privacy-in-the-age-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-55189</link>
		<dc:creator>R J Keefe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rea,I wrote with the long thread on academic women bloggers (see Kieran&#039;s post of last week) in mind. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Rea,I wrote with the long thread on academic women bloggers (see Kieran&#8217;s post of last week) in mind.</p>
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		<title>By: rea</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/12/20/privacy-in-the-age-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-55188</link>
		<dc:creator>rea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2004 01:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I do realize that women are bound to feel somewhat more cautious about revealing their identities.&quot;Goodness!  What concerns might a woman have about revealing her identiy online that aren&#039;t equally applicable to a man? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;I do realize that women are bound to feel somewhat more cautious about revealing their identities.&#8221;Goodness!  What concerns might a woman have about revealing her identiy online that aren&#8217;t equally applicable to a man?</p>
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		<title>By: R J Keefe</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/12/20/privacy-in-the-age-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-55187</link>
		<dc:creator>R J Keefe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2004 01:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Anonymity automatically lowers the quality of Web log postings. Until human beings do some currently-unforeseeable evolving, we will continue to want to &quot;place&quot; the people to whom we&#039;re listening and talking. The difference between a sixty year-old man and a thirty year-old woman is not altogether without significance, particularly where personal responses (by which I don&#039;t mean &quot;intimate&quot; ones) are salient. So are all the other small characteristics that distinguish us. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Secrecy and publication don&#039;t go together. The well-written &lt;i&gt;roman à clef &lt;/i&gt;may be irresistible, but few Web logs are likely to attain such distinction. In general, I&#039;m not interested in the details of a hated job, much less those of a troubled romance, so anonymity in these areas doesn&#039;t bother me. But where matters of a general, private or public intellectual nature, I really can&#039;t see that anonymity is justified. Perhaps I&#039;m being naive; perhaps I put stock in the likelihood that my dependence upon semicolons will repel troublemakers. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I do realize that women are bound to feel somewhat more cautious about revealing their identities. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p></p><p>Anonymity automatically lowers the quality of Web log postings. Until human beings do some currently-unforeseeable evolving, we will continue to want to &quot;place&quot; the people to whom we&#8217;re listening and talking. The difference between a sixty year-old man and a thirty year-old woman is not altogether without significance, particularly where personal responses (by which I don&#8217;t mean &quot;intimate&quot; ones) are salient. So are all the other small characteristics that distinguish us. </p><p>Secrecy and publication don&#8217;t go together. The well-written <i>roman &#224; clef </i>may be irresistible, but few Web logs are likely to attain such distinction. In general, I&#8217;m not interested in the details of a hated job, much less those of a troubled romance, so anonymity in these areas doesn&#8217;t bother me. But where matters of a general, private or public intellectual nature, I really can&#8217;t see that anonymity is justified. Perhaps I&#8217;m being naive; perhaps I put stock in the likelihood that my dependence upon semicolons will repel troublemakers. </p><p>I do realize that women are bound to feel somewhat more cautious about revealing their identities. </p>
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		<title>By: JennyD</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/12/20/privacy-in-the-age-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-55186</link>
		<dc:creator>JennyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting problem. Let&#039;s think about from a publishing perspective. If you are a publisher, and you publish information about a &quot;private person&quot; (rather than a celebrity or politician or someone who has pushed themselves into the public eye) you have a much higher burden of accuracy. You can&#039;t say anything about anyone, or else they can sue you for libel.The wronged party doesn&#039;t even necessarily have to prove intent, if the party is a private person. The other thing is publishers are not anonymous, which is part of the bargain of the libel law.I suspect that some anonymous blogger is going to wake up some day to a pretty decent libel suit. I welcome it, to some extent, as it will legitimize blogging as a form of publishing. I feel sorry for the dopey blogger who gets hit, but maybe he should know better than to publish nasty things about regular people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This is an interesting problem. Let&#8217;s think about from a publishing perspective. If you are a publisher, and you publish information about a &#8220;private person&#8221; (rather than a celebrity or politician or someone who has pushed themselves into the public eye) you have a much higher burden of accuracy. You can&#8217;t say anything about anyone, or else they can sue you for libel.The wronged party doesn&#8217;t even necessarily have to prove intent, if the party is a private person. The other thing is publishers are not anonymous, which is part of the bargain of the libel law.I suspect that some anonymous blogger is going to wake up some day to a pretty decent libel suit. I welcome it, to some extent, as it will legitimize blogging as a form of publishing. I feel sorry for the dopey blogger who gets hit, but maybe he should know better than to publish nasty things about regular people.</p>
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		<title>By: Zed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed the same story. It&#039;s silly, there are a very limited number of blogs with expose their sex lives. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I noticed the same story. It&#8217;s silly, there are a very limited number of blogs with expose their sex lives.</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/12/20/privacy-in-the-age-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-55184</link>
		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perhaps &#039;psuedo&#039; occurs very frequently online precisely because it is an easy typo to incur in, and a hard one to detect, rather than because of widespread ignorance of its correct spelling.  At least for us Spanish speakers, the transposition of the &quot;u&quot; and &quot;e&quot; has a significant effect on the pronunciation of the word that it is very hard for us not to know how to properly spell it.  That doesn&#039;t prevent me from repeatedly making that typo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>perhaps &#8216;psuedo&#8217; occurs very frequently online precisely because it is an easy typo to incur in, and a hard one to detect, rather than because of widespread ignorance of its correct spelling.  At least for us Spanish speakers, the transposition of the &#8220;u&#8221; and &#8220;e&#8221; has a significant effect on the pronunciation of the word that it is very hard for us not to know how to properly spell it.  That doesn&#8217;t prevent me from repeatedly making that typo.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/12/20/privacy-in-the-age-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-55183</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it was a basic of blogging ettiquette to never refer to some one other than yourself by a false name or at least to hide their identity in some way unless you have their implicit permission.some people are a bit funny when it comes to privacy, I saw quite a few blogs discussing people who exercise their right to a secret ballot when asked who they were going to vote for, which is probably relevant</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I thought it was a basic of blogging ettiquette to never refer to some one other than yourself by a false name or at least to hide their identity in some way unless you have their implicit permission.some people are a bit funny when it comes to privacy, I saw quite a few blogs discussing people who exercise their right to a secret ballot when asked who they were going to vote for, which is probably relevant</p>
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		<title>By: harry</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/12/20/privacy-in-the-age-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-55182</link>
		<dc:creator>harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just thought I&#039;d confirm that, unlike most of the errors I make, &#039;psuedo&#039; reflects an inability to spell, rather than an inability to type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I just thought I&#8217;d confirm that, unlike most of the errors I make, &#8216;psuedo&#8217; reflects an inability to spell, rather than an inability to type.</p>
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		<title>By: eszter</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/12/20/privacy-in-the-age-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-55181</link>
		<dc:creator>eszter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry, I definitely think there are issues with insulting people or being overly critical anonymously (actually, there are issues with insulting people with one&#039;s name signed as well).  Comments I get on here that are clearly completely anonymous I tend to take much less seriously (or I try to in any case).  It&#039;s just way too easy to be critical without having to sign your name to it.  It&#039;s also much easier to blog that way. Of course, it&#039;s hard to verify people&#039;s identity and people could be making up names and email addresses in their comments.On a different point, although there is a large occurrence of &quot;psuedo&quot; online, the correct spelling is actually &quot;pseudo&quot;.;)  (Since it&#039;s been misspelled by two people on this thread, I thought I&#039;d interject.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Harry, I definitely think there are issues with insulting people or being overly critical anonymously (actually, there are issues with insulting people with one&#8217;s name signed as well).  Comments I get on here that are clearly completely anonymous I tend to take much less seriously (or I try to in any case).  It&#8217;s just way too easy to be critical without having to sign your name to it.  It&#8217;s also much easier to blog that way. Of course, it&#8217;s hard to verify people&#8217;s identity and people could be making up names and email addresses in their comments.On a different point, although there is a large occurrence of &#8220;psuedo&#8221; online, the correct spelling is actually &#8220;pseudo&#8221;.;)  (Since it&#8217;s been misspelled by two people on this thread, I thought I&#8217;d interject.)</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/12/20/privacy-in-the-age-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-55180</link>
		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry,My wife and I certainly don&#039;t think there&#039;s anything wrong with her student&#039;s public rant.  It&#039;s pretty harmless, and if it helps her vent, great.  By contrast, I would consider it strictly unethical for my wife to punish her student with harsh grading.Incidentally, the student&#039;s blog is psuedo-anonymous (her first name is disclosed but her last name isn&#039;t---like some of us commenters&#039;).  She does call every professor in the Department by name, which is very amusing.  Her blog cannot be found via Google, so I&#039;ve no idea how my wife sumbled upon it.  I&#039;ll have to ask.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Harry,My wife and I certainly don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s anything wrong with her student&#8217;s public rant.  It&#8217;s pretty harmless, and if it helps her vent, great.  By contrast, I would consider it strictly unethical for my wife to punish her student with harsh grading.Incidentally, the student&#8217;s blog is psuedo-anonymous (her first name is disclosed but her last name isn&#8217;t&#8212;-like some of us commenters&#8217;).  She does call every professor in the Department by name, which is very amusing.  Her blog cannot be found via Google, so I&#8217;ve no idea how my wife sumbled upon it.  I&#8217;ll have to ask.</p>
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		<title>By: harry</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/12/20/privacy-in-the-age-of-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-55179</link>
		<dc:creator>harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a legal matter, but what about the ethics of insulting people under the mask of anonymity? I sometimes have a very hard time with commenters who feel entitled to let out an insult which, if they were not pseudonymous, they would never use. Similarly with bloggers who insult from behind their own false identities (for example some of the psuedo-left pro-war blogs I&#039;ve seen). Even commenters whose comments I&#039;m eager to read soemtimes do this. It especially bugs me when the commenter/blogger is clearly an academic.Compare with directly sending an anonymous insulting letter or email. This (of which I ahve been a victim a number of times including, most recently, from a student in a course of mine -- I knew it was a student because it referred directly to things said in the previous day&#039;s class) is despicable. How does blog posting and commenting differ?By contrast, if pedro&#039;s wife&#039;s student is blogging under his/her own name, that seems fine to me (though hurtful, and evidence of bad manners, etc).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Not a legal matter, but what about the ethics of insulting people under the mask of anonymity? I sometimes have a very hard time with commenters who feel entitled to let out an insult which, if they were not pseudonymous, they would never use. Similarly with bloggers who insult from behind their own false identities (for example some of the psuedo-left pro-war blogs I&#8217;ve seen). Even commenters whose comments I&#8217;m eager to read soemtimes do this. It especially bugs me when the commenter/blogger is clearly an academic.Compare with directly sending an anonymous insulting letter or email. This (of which I ahve been a victim a number of times including, most recently, from a student in a course of mine&#8212;I knew it was a student because it referred directly to things said in the previous day&#8217;s class) is despicable. How does blog posting and commenting differ?By contrast, if pedro&#8217;s wife&#8217;s student is blogging under his/her own name, that seems fine to me (though hurtful, and evidence of bad manners, etc).</p>
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		<title>By: des von bladet</title>
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		<dc:creator>des von bladet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My own bladet&#039;s ethics committee holds that it is not our business to blog other persons&#039; stories, so we don&#039;t.  (With the occasional and limited exception of blogmoots.)But we&#039;ll have to wait and see what view the courts take in jurisdictions covered by privacy laws.  My lay opinion would be that blogs are a medium like any other, but I am not especially the European Court of Human Rights.Courrier International had a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.courrierinternational.com/article.asp?obj_id=28412&quot;&gt;round-up&lt;/a&gt; (in French) of German media coverage of the case of prinsess Caroline of Monaco  and the resulting legal imbroglio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>My own bladet&#8217;s ethics committee holds that it is not our business to blog other persons&#8217; stories, so we don&#8217;t.  (With the occasional and limited exception of blogmoots.)But we&#8217;ll have to wait and see what view the courts take in jurisdictions covered by privacy laws.  My lay opinion would be that blogs are a medium like any other, but I am not especially the European Court of Human Rights.Courrier International had a <a href="http://www.courrierinternational.com/article.asp?obj_id=28412">round-up</a> (in French) of German media coverage of the case of prinsess Caroline of Monaco  and the resulting legal imbroglio.</p>
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		<title>By: brayden</title>
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		<dc:creator>brayden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professors as public figures can expect to see their names ridiculed (or praised) from time to time in a public domain.  The article refers to Rateyourprofessor.com, a website that  hosts student reviews of their professors.  Some of those reviews are pretty harsh and, given the site doesn&#039;t censor students&#039; views, some can be downright insulting.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Professors as public figures can expect to see their names ridiculed (or praised) from time to time in a public domain.  The article refers to Rateyourprofessor.com, a website that  hosts student reviews of their professors.  Some of those reviews are pretty harsh and, given the site doesn&#8217;t censor students&#8217; views, some can be downright insulting.</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post.  My wife just discovered yesterday that her students have blogs referring to her by name.  One of the bloggers is quite rude, actually.  The other three references found are just amusing, even flattering.  But I do wonder if these kids realize that it&#039;s quite easy to find these things online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Interesting post.  My wife just discovered yesterday that her students have blogs referring to her by name.  One of the bloggers is quite rude, actually.  The other three references found are just amusing, even flattering.  But I do wonder if these kids realize that it&#8217;s quite easy to find these things online.</p>
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