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		<title>By: S</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/12/28/its-mla-season/comment-page-1/#comment-55674</link>
		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apropos of clever titles, the idea that one&#039;s thesis title needs to go &quot;snappy phrase: longwinded account of what your thesis is actually about&quot; is very sweetly referred to in my department as &quot;post-colonial theory&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Apropos of clever titles, the idea that one&#8217;s thesis title needs to go &#8220;snappy phrase: longwinded account of what your thesis is actually about&#8221; is very sweetly referred to in my department as &#8220;post-colonial theory&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Frolic</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/12/28/its-mla-season/comment-page-1/#comment-55673</link>
		<dc:creator>Frolic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2004 23:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still a little shell shocked from the conference, but I will offer a comment I heard while eating lunch next to two Victorianists:&quot;The study moved from Middlemarch to Bleak House. That was really ballsy.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;m still a little shell shocked from the conference, but I will offer a comment I heard while eating lunch next to two Victorianists:&#8220;The study moved from Middlemarch to Bleak House. That was really ballsy.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ophelia Benson</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/12/28/its-mla-season/comment-page-1/#comment-55672</link>
		<dc:creator>Ophelia Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2004 22:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, that&#039;s a great quotation from Smith. (Dang, I need to read the Theory of Moral Sentiments. Have been meaning to for ages.) That&#039;s probably where Goldstein got it - she is a philosopher (married to a physicist, so it all kind of joins up). How very amusing.(The idea is in her first novel, &lt;i&gt;The Mind-Body Problem&lt;/i&gt;, in case anyone was wondering. Quite wittily expressed.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ah, that&#8217;s a great quotation from Smith. (Dang, I need to read the Theory of Moral Sentiments. Have been meaning to for ages.) That&#8217;s probably where Goldstein got it &#8211; she is a philosopher (married to a physicist, so it all kind of joins up). How very amusing.(The idea is in her first novel, <i>The Mind-Body Problem</i>, in case anyone was wondering. Quite wittily expressed.)</p>
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		<title>By: lemuel pitkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>lemuel pitkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2004 21:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the inverse ratio between solidity of findings and obsession with presentation of self? Mathematicians don’t need to impress anyone, so they don’t; literaturians, at the opposite end of the scale, do, so they do. &lt;/i&gt;Adam Smith has a nice passage on this in &lt;a&gt;The Theory of Moral Sentiments&lt;/a&gt;:Mathematicians and natural philosophers, from theirindependency upon the public opinion, have little temptation toform themselves into factions and cabals, either for the supportof their own reputation, or for the depression of that of theirrivals. They are almost always men of the most amiable simplicityof manners, who live in good harmony with one another, are thefriends of one another&#039;s reputation, enter into no intrigue inorder to secure the public applause, but are pleased when theirworks are approved of, without being either much vexed or veryangry when they are neglected.    It is not always the same case with poets, or with those whovalue themselves upon what is called fine writing. They are veryapt to divide themselves into a sort of literary factions; eachcabal being often avowedly, and almost always secretly, themortal enemy of the reputation of every other, and employing allthe mean arts of intrigue and solicitation to preoccupy thepublic opinion in favour of the works of its own members, andagainst those of its enemies and rivals. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>the inverse ratio between solidity of findings and obsession with presentation of self? Mathematicians don&#8217;t need to impress anyone, so they don&#8217;t; literaturians, at the opposite end of the scale, do, so they do. </i>Adam Smith has a nice passage on this in <a>The Theory of Moral Sentiments</a>:Mathematicians and natural philosophers, from theirindependency upon the public opinion, have little temptation toform themselves into factions and cabals, either for the supportof their own reputation, or for the depression of that of theirrivals. They are almost always men of the most amiable simplicityof manners, who live in good harmony with one another, are thefriends of one another&#8217;s reputation, enter into no intrigue inorder to secure the public applause, but are pleased when theirworks are approved of, without being either much vexed or veryangry when they are neglected.    It is not always the same case with poets, or with those whovalue themselves upon what is called fine writing. They are veryapt to divide themselves into a sort of literary factions; eachcabal being often avowedly, and almost always secretly, themortal enemy of the reputation of every other, and employing allthe mean arts of intrigue and solicitation to preoccupy thepublic opinion in favour of the works of its own members, andagainst those of its enemies and rivals.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Kotsko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Kotsko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2004 18:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Ophelia should be invited to do a guest post on the MLA, since every third comment on this thread is from her.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I think Ophelia should be invited to do a guest post on the <span class="caps">MLA</span>, since every third comment on this thread is from her.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Another Damned Medievalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Damned Medievalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2004 17:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As if people wouldn&#039;t know who Mark Knopfler was ... ok, they might if they are neither Dire Straits fans or folkies (but damn, the man can write some good songs).  Even in History, titles can be touchy.  When colleagues note my dissertation title, they tent to mention how &quot;old fashioned&quot; it is -- no catchy phrase with colon.  I like to think of it as informative and to the point.  And maybe Retro.A colleague in English, however, claims his advisor told him that the title was as important as the content, and that it must be in the &#039;Witty but unclear/unrelated Catchphrase:  Superlong description that tries to make the catchphrase sensible&#039; format.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>As if people wouldn&#8217;t know who Mark Knopfler was &#8230; ok, they might if they are neither Dire Straits fans or folkies (but damn, the man can write some good songs).  Even in History, titles can be touchy.  When colleagues note my dissertation title, they tent to mention how &#8220;old fashioned&#8221; it is&#8212;no catchy phrase with colon.  I like to think of it as informative and to the point.  And maybe Retro.A colleague in English, however, claims his advisor told him that the title was as important as the content, and that it must be in the &#8216;Witty but unclear/unrelated Catchphrase:  Superlong description that tries to make the catchphrase sensible&#8217; format.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2004 12:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But isn&#039;t it really duck season?</description>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2004 12:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shorter John Holbo (as written by the man himself): I have ever so much more to say.Thanks for the epiphany!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Shorter John Holbo (as written by the man himself): I have ever so much more to say.Thanks for the epiphany!</p>
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		<title>By: Bucky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2004 08:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Knopfler&#039;s best known for the Money for Nothin/MTV trope but in the early 80&#039;s he wrote a song called Telegraph Road that was brilliant, and brilliantly  performed - pretty much a lyrical summation of human history side by side with a concise chronology of the plucked string. From wandering vagabond and simple acoustic melody to 10-lane rush-hour traffic and absolutely raging electric guitar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Knopfler&#8217;s best known for the Money for Nothin/MTV trope but in the early 80&#8217;s he wrote a song called Telegraph Road that was brilliant, and brilliantly  performed &#8211; pretty much a lyrical summation of human history side by side with a concise chronology of the plucked string. From wandering vagabond and simple acoustic melody to 10-lane rush-hour traffic and absolutely raging electric guitar.</p>
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		<title>By: digamma</title>
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		<dc:creator>digamma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2004 03:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reason.com/hitandrun/2004/12/phoning_it_in_d_1.shtml#007847&quot;&gt;Reason&lt;/a&gt; even came to the MLA&#039;s defense from this article: &quot;The plain fact is, most of the panels don&#039;t have bizarre titles and most of them are devoted to recognizable subject areas, historical periods, and serious examination of new and old texts that are important to people in their respective fields.&quot;Home in Philly for the holidays, I had a look at the conference schedule today and, wow, there&#039;s an incredible amount of genuinely interesting material.  Having just seen Ocean&#039;s 12, I think it shouldn&#039;t be too hard for me to sneak into a few sessions without a badge....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><a href="http://www.reason.com/hitandrun/2004/12/phoning_it_in_d_1.shtml#007847">Reason</a> even came to the <span class="caps">MLA</span>&#8217;s defense from this article: &#8220;The plain fact is, most of the panels don&#8217;t have bizarre titles and most of them are devoted to recognizable subject areas, historical periods, and serious examination of new and old texts that are important to people in their respective fields.&#8221;Home in Philly for the holidays, I had a look at the conference schedule today and, wow, there&#8217;s an incredible amount of genuinely interesting material.  Having just seen Ocean&#8217;s 12, I think it shouldn&#8217;t be too hard for me to sneak into a few sessions without a badge&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ophelia Benson</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/12/28/its-mla-season/comment-page-1/#comment-55664</link>
		<dc:creator>Ophelia Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2004 23:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So it’s not so much that self-presentation isn’t important, it’s that a different set of self-presentations is highly valued.&quot;Wull - same thing, dude!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;So it&#8217;s not so much that self-presentation isn&#8217;t important, it&#8217;s that a different set of self-presentations is highly valued.&#8221;Wull &#8211; same thing, dude!</p>
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		<title>By: drapeto</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2004/12/28/its-mla-season/comment-page-1/#comment-55663</link>
		<dc:creator>drapeto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2004 22:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;What is necessarily wrong with having a panel discussion of &quot;The Passion of Christ&quot;?&lt;/i&gt;someone needs to update hofstatder&#039;s anti-intellectualism in american life with a section on disdain for intellectuals who consider the popular is a motif of populist discourse.the nyt is under the impression that if they bash anyone with a whiff of leftitude or intellectuality (&quot;eggheads!&quot;), ann coulter will start saying they are a bastion of down-home righteousness.  if they can publish judith miller, why wouldn&#039;t they publish bs about the mla?  &lt;i&gt;If the author was going to have so much fun with the conference, I wish he had focused on the more political titles.&lt;/i&gt;right..... they should make their agenda even more obvious, for the vision-impaired.  ps. for the rockistly-impaired, does Sailing to Philadelphia have anything to do with Sailing to Byzantium? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>What is necessarily wrong with having a panel discussion of &#8220;The Passion of Christ&#8221;?</i>someone needs to update hofstatder&#8217;s anti-intellectualism in american life with a section on disdain for intellectuals who consider the popular is a motif of populist discourse.the nyt is under the impression that if they bash anyone with a whiff of leftitude or intellectuality (&#8220;eggheads!&#8221;), ann coulter will start saying they are a bastion of down-home righteousness.  if they can publish judith miller, why wouldn&#8217;t they publish bs about the mla?  <i>If the author was going to have so much fun with the conference, I wish he had focused on the more political titles.</i>right&#8230;.. they should make their agenda even more obvious, for the vision-impaired.  ps. for the rockistly-impaired, does Sailing to Philadelphia have anything to do with Sailing to Byzantium?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt McGrattan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt McGrattan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2004 21:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;..a mathematician who came to give a lecture dressed in a suit and tie, or who prepared an elaborate PowerPoint presentation, would be looked at a bit strangely.&quot;&lt;b&gt;ANYONE&lt;/b&gt; who gives an elaborate PowerPoint presentation, &lt;i&gt;ought&lt;/i&gt;, as a matter of course, to be be looked at strangely. There&#039;s rarely, if ever, an excuse for it -- with the possible exception of a tiny minority of scientists and/or social scientists who need some conventient framework they can use to embed a lot of data, charts, video, etc.And anyone who uses those &quot;whoosh&quot; noises or has bullet points that fly in from the side, deserves to be ostracised from their chosen profession forever -- or at the absolute minimum denied tenure for bringing their discipline into disrepute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;..a mathematician who came to give a lecture dressed in a suit and tie, or who prepared an elaborate PowerPoint presentation, would be looked at a bit strangely.&#8221;<b><span class="caps">ANYONE</span></b> who gives an elaborate PowerPoint presentation, <i>ought</i>, as a matter of course, to be be looked at strangely. There&#8217;s rarely, if ever, an excuse for it&#8212;with the possible exception of a tiny minority of scientists and/or social scientists who need some conventient framework they can use to embed a lot of data, charts, video, etc.And anyone who uses those &#8220;whoosh&#8221; noises or has bullet points that fly in from the side, deserves to be ostracised from their chosen profession forever&#8212;or at the absolute minimum denied tenure for bringing their discipline into disrepute.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Ellenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Ellenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2004 21:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Ophelia, a mathematician who came to give a lecture dressed in a suit and tie, or who prepared an elaborate PowerPoint presentation, would be looked at a bit strangely.  So it&#039;s not so much that self-presentation isn&#039;t important, it&#039;s that a different set of self-presentations is highly valued. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>But Ophelia, a mathematician who came to give a lecture dressed in a suit and tie, or who prepared an elaborate PowerPoint presentation, would be looked at a bit strangely.  So it&#8217;s not so much that self-presentation isn&#8217;t important, it&#8217;s that a different set of self-presentations is highly valued.</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2004 21:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My oh my... hush Jordan... you&#039;re shattering my expectations of the AMS/MAA meetings!  I guess when my turn comes to go, I&#039;ll have to impersonate my current subjects of study.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>My oh my&#8230; hush Jordan&#8230; you&#8217;re shattering my expectations of the <span class="caps">AMS</span>/MAA meetings!  I guess when my turn comes to go, I&#8217;ll have to impersonate my current subjects of study.</p>
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