Comments on: Isn’t there an ‘s’ missing somewhere?

By: Tom Doyle

Tom Doyle — Thu, 27 Jan 2005 00:30:00 +0000

Black and Tans (Occupation Lore) In the early 1900’s, the Royal Irish Constabulary, England’s police force in Ireland, was having a difficult time recruiting. Its barracks were the targets of repeated raids and ambushes by Irish rebels. By 1919, English authorities advertised for men who were willing to “face a rough and dangerous task.” That task was to supplement the dwindling ranks of the RIC in patrolling an increasingly hostile Ireland. [...] The Black and Tans, although they served in the constabulary, never acted as policemen. Their service experience had been in trench warfare on foreign soil. Absent in their background was the constable’s role as servant to the community in the protection of life and property. The Black and Tans acted as an occupation army. They had signed on for an indefinite period of service with no pension rights and ineffective discipline. Eventually over 2000 Black and Tans were distributed over Ireland to strengthen police posts, to make Ireland “hell for rebels to live in.” On June 17, 1920, Lt. Col. Smyth was appointed division commander of the RIC for Munster. Below is part of his speech to his constables: “….If a police barracks is burned or if the barracks already occupied is not suitable, then the best house in the locality is to be commandeered, the occupants thrown into the gutter. Let them die there – the more the merrier. Police and military will patrol the country at least five nights a week. They are not to confine themselves to the main roads, but make across the country, lie in ambush and, when civilians are seen approaching, shout “Hands up!” Should the order be not immediately obeyed, shoot and shoot with effect. If the persons approaching carry their hands in their pockets, or are in any way suspicious-looking, shoot them down. You may make mistakes occasionally and innocent persons may be shot, but that cannot be helped, and you are bound to get the right parties some time. The more you shoot, the better I will like you, and I assure you no policeman will get into trouble for shooting any man …” Smyth’s orders sound like DoD/Rumsfeld’s ROE

By: HP

HP — Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:27:49 +0000

Well, Matt, your guess might be ©, but I’ve had my guess ®. Don’t even think about guessing the same as me.

By: Matt Weiner

Matt Weiner — Mon, 24 Jan 2005 04:02:30 +0000

Kieran—What’s the answer? (My guess is©, and I’ve always found it ironic when folks order Black & Tans made of Guinness.)

By: Henry

Henry — Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:54:42 +0000

Excellent photo, though. Did somebody get a new phone for Christmas? Somebody got a new Treo a few months ago. It’s the communicator of choice among the CT crowd – at least three of us have them.

By: Wren

Wren — Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:57:29 +0000

http://www.tedmontgomery.com/tutorial/ALTchrc.html

By: bad Jim

bad Jim — Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:02:40 +0000

Excellent photo, though. Did somebody get a new phone for Christmas?

By: bad Jim

bad Jim — Sun, 23 Jan 2005 09:40:36 +0000

Alternatively, on a PC, just hold down Alt and press 131 on the numeric keypad: â. It’s worked the same way for a quarter of a century. (Without a previous example it would have been hard to think of anything less intuitive.) At times I wish I had keyboard with a key for every letter in the Cyrillic alphabet. (Not that I’d actually have any use for it, I just have a thing for wide keyboards.) Diacritical marks are disfunctional when they’re stripped off in translation. When Kostunica defeated Milosevic in Yugoslavia, only a glance at a photo of a Serbian paper’s headlines spared me from having to wait for the TV news announcers to learn how to pronounce these names: Koshtunitsa, Milosevich.

By: paul

paul — Sun, 23 Jan 2005 05:25:25 +0000

To make an a with a circumflex (â) you want to use ampersand (&), the letter (a), and the abbreviated diacritical mark (circ), followed by a semicolon. Check out this correspondence from almost 12 years ago on why anyone would need to remember these obscure mnemonics and why software should do this for you. On the Mac, this was possible since even before that gripe: type option-i to get the circumflex and ‘a’ for the letter.

By: P O'Neill

P O'Neill — Sun, 23 Jan 2005 03:43:59 +0000

Anderson—here’s one paper by a historian who seems to have a lot of data on the backgrounds of the security forces used in Ireland post WW I; he also had a more recent papers specifically looking at the Black and Tans, it came out in a journal called History Ireland but I can’t find a link anywhere. http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FKX/is_2002_Fall-Winter/ai_95598124

By: Ancarett

Ancarett — Sun, 23 Jan 2005 03:17:04 +0000

Anderson, I know that David Leeson at McMaster University in Canada has been researching on British recruits to the Royal Irish Constabulary in the post WWI period. He doesn’t have a book out yet, but he’d be your best bet for a start on the topic.

By: dq

dq — Sun, 23 Jan 2005 02:07:39 +0000

More deliciously semi-useless knowledge: – the little hat on the “a” (a circumflex) is often, but not always, the last remanant of an obsolete “s” that used to follow the vowel. – batrd (can’t figure out how to add the circumflex) refers more to the shape (vaguely babe-in-swaddling-clothes) than to the dough-type of bread, thus you will find sourdough batard, sweet batard, levain-and-nut (e.g., walnut) batard, etc. So, yes, there is an “s” missing, but it went missing several centuries ago.

By: yabonn

yabonn — Sun, 23 Jan 2005 01:55:01 +0000

From the useless knowledge dept : it’s called a bâtard because it’s a mix between a baguette and a pain.

By: Anderson

Anderson — Sun, 23 Jan 2005 01:48:26 +0000

I would love to read a good book about the Black & Tans, the Freikorps, and generally the young men who grew up killing in WW1 and found themselves unable to change careers, as it were, after 11/11/1918. If any sage commenter knows of one, please refer.

By: JRoth

JRoth — Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:08:39 +0000

I just want to mention that this particular loaf – thickly coated in poppy and sesame seeds that split apart where the raw dough was sliced – is absolutely delicious. But I did get the joke, Irish [German/English/Polish/etc.]-American though I may be.

By: Henry

Henry — Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:12:33 +0000

This could get us on to the topic of the frivolity with which bars tend to offer Black and Tan cocktails. Or the “I’m having a Michael Collins – two shots, and then I hit the road” as described on Nighthawks many years ago. Chris, Dan, this is a bit of an Irish in-joke. The Black and Tans were a notorious crowd of British paramilitaries imported to Ireland for the War of Independence. Although I do have a family story casting a good light on the Auxiliaries, another crowd of British soldiers who didn’t have a very much better reputation. During most of the War of Independence my great-grandfather was enjoying His Majesty’s hospitality in Dartmoor, which meant that his family (who stayed in Dublin) came in for a fair amount of attention from British forces. At one stage the Auxiliaries raided the house, and one of their officers found two of my granduncles (who would then have been in their mid-to-late teens) trying frantically to hide plans and communications. He told them to burn the papers – and stood over them while they did it – but then let them go. He could very easily have had the two of them shot instead.