http://crookedtimber.org/2005/01/31/prospects-for-iraqi-democracy/ Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made Sat, 26 May 2012 14:45:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/01/31/prospects-for-iraqi-democracy/comment-page-2/#comment-64795 Crooked Timber » » The March of Freedom Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:13:27 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=2816#comment-64795 [...] difficult position. It’s important to note the limits of this. As Adam Przeworski says, a democracy is a system where governments lose elections. Given some of [...] [...] difficult position. It’s important to note the limits of this. As Adam Przeworski says, a democracy is a system where governments lose elections. Given some of [...]

]]> http://crookedtimber.org/2005/01/31/prospects-for-iraqi-democracy/comment-page-2/#comment-59270 abb1 Thu, 03 Feb 2005 11:29:16 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=2816#comment-59270 Chomsky on the <i>'whether the U.S. wants a working democracy in Iraq (with the risks that implies) or just a friendly puppet state'</i> question: <a href="http://counterpunch.org/chomsky02022005.html">The Future of Iraq and the US Occupation</a>. Enjoy. Chomsky on the ‘whether the U.S. wants a working democracy in Iraq (with the risks that implies) or just a friendly puppet state’ question: The Future of Iraq and the US Occupation. Enjoy.

]]> http://crookedtimber.org/2005/01/31/prospects-for-iraqi-democracy/comment-page-2/#comment-59269 John Tue, 01 Feb 2005 17:04:31 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=2816#comment-59269 Yes, you do need to fix the comments. The reason mine was posted so many times is that I got a 500 Server error each time. When I clicked reload my comment wasn't there, so I tried again. Sorry about that. Yes, you do need to fix the comments. The reason mine was posted so many times is that I got a 500 Server error each time. When I clicked reload my comment wasn’t there, so I tried again. Sorry about that.

]]> http://crookedtimber.org/2005/01/31/prospects-for-iraqi-democracy/comment-page-2/#comment-59268 John Tue, 01 Feb 2005 16:53:03 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=2816#comment-59268 <i>Unlike thousands of desk-jockey warbloggers, I don’t have any expertise in Iraqi politics.</i> I'll state up front that I probably know less than you do about Iraqi politics. However, if there's one aspect of the Iraqi situation that is significantly different than Ireland's in 1922 it's the neighbors. After the British left in '22, their only real ambition would have been that the government under Cosgrave succeed and that the Republicans not assume power. Some of Iraq's neighbors, however, have a vested interest in seeing the new state fail. I've read that there are Iranian sabateurs in Iraq and it seems almost beyond doubt that there are Islamists from other Sunni Arab nations also operating in Iraq. If this is true, then isn't it at least possible that the new Iraqi government will need the MNF to remain a while yet? It doesn't seem unreasonable to give the new government some time to assume control over its borders and security. Unlike thousands of desk-jockey warbloggers, I don’t have any expertise in Iraqi politics. I’ll state up front that I probably know less than you do about Iraqi politics. However, if there’s one aspect of the Iraqi situation that is significantly different than Ireland’s in 1922 it’s the neighbors. After the British left in ‘22, their only real ambition would have been that the government under Cosgrave succeed and that the Republicans not assume power. Some of Iraq’s neighbors, however, have a vested interest in seeing the new state fail. I’ve read that there are Iranian sabateurs in Iraq and it seems almost beyond doubt that there are Islamists from other Sunni Arab nations also operating in Iraq. If this is true, then isn’t it at least possible that the new Iraqi government will need the MNF to remain a while yet? It doesn’t seem unreasonable to give the new government some time to assume control over its borders and security.

]]> http://crookedtimber.org/2005/01/31/prospects-for-iraqi-democracy/comment-page-2/#comment-59267 Kieran Healy Tue, 01 Feb 2005 15:58:30 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=2816#comment-59267 I think that's some kid of record. We really need to fix the comments. I think that’s some kid of record. We really need to fix the comments.

]]> http://crookedtimber.org/2005/01/31/prospects-for-iraqi-democracy/comment-page-2/#comment-59266 John Tue, 01 Feb 2005 14:40:05 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=2816#comment-59266 <i>Unlike thousands of desk-jockey warbloggers, I don’t have any expertise in Iraqi politics.</i> I'll state up front that I probably know less than you do about Iraqi politics. However, if there's one aspect of the Iraqi situation that is significantly different than Ireland's in 1922 it's the neighbors. After the British left in '22, their only real ambition would have been that the government under Cosgrave succeed and that the Republicans not assume power. Some of Iraq's neighbors, however, have a vested interest in seeing the new state fail. I've read that there are Iranian sabateurs in Iraq and it seems almost beyond doubt that there are Islamists from other Sunni Arab nations also operating in Iraq. If this is true, then isn't it at least possible that the new Iraqi government will need the MNF to remain a while yet? It doesn't seem unreasonable to give the new government some time to assume control over its borders and security. Unlike thousands of desk-jockey warbloggers, I don’t have any expertise in Iraqi politics. I’ll state up front that I probably know less than you do about Iraqi politics. However, if there’s one aspect of the Iraqi situation that is significantly different than Ireland’s in 1922 it’s the neighbors. After the British left in ‘22, their only real ambition would have been that the government under Cosgrave succeed and that the Republicans not assume power. Some of Iraq’s neighbors, however, have a vested interest in seeing the new state fail. I’ve read that there are Iranian sabateurs in Iraq and it seems almost beyond doubt that there are Islamists from other Sunni Arab nations also operating in Iraq. If this is true, then isn’t it at least possible that the new Iraqi government will need the MNF to remain a while yet? It doesn’t seem unreasonable to give the new government some time to assume control over its borders and security.

]]> http://crookedtimber.org/2005/01/31/prospects-for-iraqi-democracy/comment-page-2/#comment-59265 John Tue, 01 Feb 2005 14:05:29 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=2816#comment-59265 <i>Unlike thousands of desk-jockey warbloggers, I don’t have any expertise in Iraqi politics.</i> I'll state up front that I probably know less than you do about Iraqi politics. However, if there's one aspect of the Iraqi situation that is significantly different than Ireland's in 1922 it's the neighbors. After the British left in '22, their only real ambition would have been that the government under Cosgrave succeed and that the Republicans not assume power. Some of Iraq's neighbors, however, have a vested interest in seeing the new state fail. I've read that there are Iranian sabateurs in Iraq and it seems almost beyond doubt that there are Islamists from other Sunni Arab nations also operating in Iraq. If this is true, then isn't it at least possible that the new Iraqi government will need the MNF to remain a while yet? It doesn't seem unreasonable to give the new government some time to assume control over its borders and security. Unlike thousands of desk-jockey warbloggers, I don’t have any expertise in Iraqi politics. I’ll state up front that I probably know less than you do about Iraqi politics. However, if there’s one aspect of the Iraqi situation that is significantly different than Ireland’s in 1922 it’s the neighbors. After the British left in ‘22, their only real ambition would have been that the government under Cosgrave succeed and that the Republicans not assume power. Some of Iraq’s neighbors, however, have a vested interest in seeing the new state fail. I’ve read that there are Iranian sabateurs in Iraq and it seems almost beyond doubt that there are Islamists from other Sunni Arab nations also operating in Iraq. If this is true, then isn’t it at least possible that the new Iraqi government will need the MNF to remain a while yet? It doesn’t seem unreasonable to give the new government some time to assume control over its borders and security.

]]> http://crookedtimber.org/2005/01/31/prospects-for-iraqi-democracy/comment-page-2/#comment-59264 John Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:45:53 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=2816#comment-59264 <i>Unlike thousands of desk-jockey warbloggers, I don’t have any expertise in Iraqi politics.</i> I'll state up front that I probably know less than you do about Iraqi politics. However, if there's one aspect of the Iraqi situation that is significantly different than Ireland's in 1922 it's the neighbors. After the British left in '22, their only real ambition would have been that the government under Cosgrave succeed and that the Republicans not assume power. Some of Iraq's neighbors, however, have a vested interest in seeing the new state fail. I've read that there are Iranian sabateurs in Iraq and it seems almost beyond doubt that there are Islamists from other Sunni Arab nations also operating in Iraq. If this is true, then isn't it at least possible that the new Iraqi government will need the MNF to remain a while yet? It doesn't seem unreasonable to give the new government some time to assume control over its borders and security. Unlike thousands of desk-jockey warbloggers, I don’t have any expertise in Iraqi politics. I’ll state up front that I probably know less than you do about Iraqi politics. However, if there’s one aspect of the Iraqi situation that is significantly different than Ireland’s in 1922 it’s the neighbors. After the British left in ‘22, their only real ambition would have been that the government under Cosgrave succeed and that the Republicans not assume power. Some of Iraq’s neighbors, however, have a vested interest in seeing the new state fail. I’ve read that there are Iranian sabateurs in Iraq and it seems almost beyond doubt that there are Islamists from other Sunni Arab nations also operating in Iraq. If this is true, then isn’t it at least possible that the new Iraqi government will need the MNF to remain a while yet? It doesn’t seem unreasonable to give the new government some time to assume control over its borders and security.

]]> http://crookedtimber.org/2005/01/31/prospects-for-iraqi-democracy/comment-page-1/#comment-59263 John Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:31:12 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=2816#comment-59263 <i>Unlike thousands of desk-jockey warbloggers, I don’t have any expertise in Iraqi politics.</i> I'll state up front that I probably know less than you do about Iraqi politics. However, if there's one aspect of the Iraqi situation that is significantly different than Ireland's in 1922 it's the neighbors. After the British left in '22, their only real ambition would have been that the government under Cosgrave succeed and that the Republicans not assume power. Some of Iraq's neighbors, however, have a vested interest in seeing the new state fail. I've read that there are Iranian sabateurs in Iraq and it seems almost beyond doubt that there are Islamists from other Sunni Arab nations also operating in Iraq. If this is true, then isn't it at least possible that the new Iraqi government will need the MNF to remain a while yet? It doesn't seem unreasonable to give the new government some time to assume control over its borders and security. Unlike thousands of desk-jockey warbloggers, I don’t have any expertise in Iraqi politics. I’ll state up front that I probably know less than you do about Iraqi politics. However, if there’s one aspect of the Iraqi situation that is significantly different than Ireland’s in 1922 it’s the neighbors. After the British left in ‘22, their only real ambition would have been that the government under Cosgrave succeed and that the Republicans not assume power. Some of Iraq’s neighbors, however, have a vested interest in seeing the new state fail. I’ve read that there are Iranian sabateurs in Iraq and it seems almost beyond doubt that there are Islamists from other Sunni Arab nations also operating in Iraq. If this is true, then isn’t it at least possible that the new Iraqi government will need the MNF to remain a while yet? It doesn’t seem unreasonable to give the new government some time to assume control over its borders and security.

]]> http://crookedtimber.org/2005/01/31/prospects-for-iraqi-democracy/comment-page-1/#comment-59262 John Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:27:18 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=2816#comment-59262 <i>Unlike thousands of desk-jockey warbloggers, I don’t have any expertise in Iraqi politics.</i> I'll state up front that I probably know less than you do about Iraqi politics. However, if there's one aspect of the Iraqi situation that is significantly different than Ireland's in 1922 it's the neighbors. After the British left in '22, their only real ambition would have been that the government under Cosgrave succeed and that the Republicans not assume power. Some of Iraq's neighbors, however, have a vested interest in seeing the new state fail. I've read that there are Iranian sabateurs in Iraq and it seems almost beyond doubt that there are Islamists from other Sunni Arab nations also operating in Iraq. If this is true, then isn't it at least possible that the new Iraqi government will need the MNF to remain a while yet? It doesn't seem unreasonable to give the new government some time to assume control over its borders and security. Unlike thousands of desk-jockey warbloggers, I don’t have any expertise in Iraqi politics. I’ll state up front that I probably know less than you do about Iraqi politics. However, if there’s one aspect of the Iraqi situation that is significantly different than Ireland’s in 1922 it’s the neighbors. After the British left in ‘22, their only real ambition would have been that the government under Cosgrave succeed and that the Republicans not assume power. Some of Iraq’s neighbors, however, have a vested interest in seeing the new state fail. I’ve read that there are Iranian sabateurs in Iraq and it seems almost beyond doubt that there are Islamists from other Sunni Arab nations also operating in Iraq. If this is true, then isn’t it at least possible that the new Iraqi government will need the MNF to remain a while yet? It doesn’t seem unreasonable to give the new government some time to assume control over its borders and security.

]]> http://crookedtimber.org/2005/01/31/prospects-for-iraqi-democracy/comment-page-1/#comment-59261 John Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:23:14 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=2816#comment-59261 <i>Unlike thousands of desk-jockey warbloggers, I don’t have any expertise in Iraqi politics.</i> I'll state up front that I probably know less than you do about Iraqi politics. However, if there's one aspect of the Iraqi situation that is significantly different than Ireland's in 1922 it's the neighbors. After the British left in '22, their only real ambition would have been that the government under Cosgrave succeed and that the Republicans not assume power. Some of Iraq's neighbors, however, have a vested interest in seeing the new state fail. I've read that there are Iranian sabateurs in Iraq and it seems almost beyond doubt that there are Islamists from other Sunni Arab nations also operating in Iraq. If this is true, then isn't it at least possible that the new Iraqi government will need the MNF to remain a while yet? It doesn't seem unreasonable to give the new government some time to assume control over its borders and security. Unlike thousands of desk-jockey warbloggers, I don’t have any expertise in Iraqi politics. I’ll state up front that I probably know less than you do about Iraqi politics. However, if there’s one aspect of the Iraqi situation that is significantly different than Ireland’s in 1922 it’s the neighbors. After the British left in ‘22, their only real ambition would have been that the government under Cosgrave succeed and that the Republicans not assume power. Some of Iraq’s neighbors, however, have a vested interest in seeing the new state fail. I’ve read that there are Iranian sabateurs in Iraq and it seems almost beyond doubt that there are Islamists from other Sunni Arab nations also operating in Iraq. If this is true, then isn’t it at least possible that the new Iraqi government will need the MNF to remain a while yet? It doesn’t seem unreasonable to give the new government some time to assume control over its borders and security.

]]> http://crookedtimber.org/2005/01/31/prospects-for-iraqi-democracy/comment-page-1/#comment-59260 John Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:21:28 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=2816#comment-59260 <i>Unlike thousands of desk-jockey warbloggers, I don’t have any expertise in Iraqi politics.</i> I'll state up front that I probably know less than you do about Iraqi politics. However, if there's one aspect of the Iraqi situation that is significantly different than Ireland's in 1922 it's the neighbors. After the British left in '22, their only real ambition would have been that the government under Cosgrave succeed and that the Republicans not assume power. Some of Iraq's neighbors, however, have a vested interest in seeing the new state fail. I've read that there are Iranian sabateurs in Iraq and it seems almost beyond doubt that there are Islamists from other Sunni Arab nations also operating in Iraq. If this is true, then isn't it at least possible that the new Iraqi government will need the MNF to remain a while yet? It doesn't seem unreasonable to give the new government some time to assume control over its borders and security. Unlike thousands of desk-jockey warbloggers, I don’t have any expertise in Iraqi politics. I’ll state up front that I probably know less than you do about Iraqi politics. However, if there’s one aspect of the Iraqi situation that is significantly different than Ireland’s in 1922 it’s the neighbors. After the British left in ‘22, their only real ambition would have been that the government under Cosgrave succeed and that the Republicans not assume power. Some of Iraq’s neighbors, however, have a vested interest in seeing the new state fail. I’ve read that there are Iranian sabateurs in Iraq and it seems almost beyond doubt that there are Islamists from other Sunni Arab nations also operating in Iraq. If this is true, then isn’t it at least possible that the new Iraqi government will need the MNF to remain a while yet? It doesn’t seem unreasonable to give the new government some time to assume control over its borders and security.

]]> http://crookedtimber.org/2005/01/31/prospects-for-iraqi-democracy/comment-page-1/#comment-59259 John Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:19:15 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=2816#comment-59259 <i>Unlike thousands of desk-jockey warbloggers, I don’t have any expertise in Iraqi politics.</i> I'll state up front that I probably know less than you do about Iraqi politics. However, if there's one aspect of the Iraqi situation that is significantly different than Ireland's in 1922 it's the neighbors. After the British left in '22, their only real ambition would have been that the government under Cosgrave succeed and that the Republicans not assume power. Some of Iraq's neighbors, however, have a vested interest in seeing the new state fail. I've read that there are Iranian sabateurs in Iraq and it seems almost beyond doubt that there are Islamists from other Sunni Arab nations also operating in Iraq. If this is true, then isn't it at least possible that the new Iraqi government will need the MNF to remain a while yet? It doesn't seem unreasonable to give the new government some time to assume control over its borders and security. Unlike thousands of desk-jockey warbloggers, I don’t have any expertise in Iraqi politics. I’ll state up front that I probably know less than you do about Iraqi politics. However, if there’s one aspect of the Iraqi situation that is significantly different than Ireland’s in 1922 it’s the neighbors. After the British left in ‘22, their only real ambition would have been that the government under Cosgrave succeed and that the Republicans not assume power. Some of Iraq’s neighbors, however, have a vested interest in seeing the new state fail. I’ve read that there are Iranian sabateurs in Iraq and it seems almost beyond doubt that there are Islamists from other Sunni Arab nations also operating in Iraq. If this is true, then isn’t it at least possible that the new Iraqi government will need the MNF to remain a while yet? It doesn’t seem unreasonable to give the new government some time to assume control over its borders and security.

]]> http://crookedtimber.org/2005/01/31/prospects-for-iraqi-democracy/comment-page-1/#comment-59258 John Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:18:13 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=2816#comment-59258 <i>Unlike thousands of desk-jockey warbloggers, I don’t have any expertise in Iraqi politics.</i> I'll state up front that I probably know less than you do about Iraqi politics. However, if there's one aspect of the Iraqi situation that is significantly different than Ireland's in 1922 it's the neighbors. After the British left in '22, their only real ambition would have been that the government under Cosgrave succeed and that the Republicans not assume power. Some of Iraq's neighbors, however, have a vested interest in seeing the new state fail. I've read that there are Iranian sabateurs in Iraq and it seems almost beyond doubt that there are Islamists from other Sunni Arab nations also operating in Iraq. If this is true, then isn't it at least possible that the new Iraqi government will need the MNF to remain a while yet? It doesn't seem unreasonable to give the new government some time to assume control over its borders and security. Unlike thousands of desk-jockey warbloggers, I don’t have any expertise in Iraqi politics. I’ll state up front that I probably know less than you do about Iraqi politics. However, if there’s one aspect of the Iraqi situation that is significantly different than Ireland’s in 1922 it’s the neighbors. After the British left in ‘22, their only real ambition would have been that the government under Cosgrave succeed and that the Republicans not assume power. Some of Iraq’s neighbors, however, have a vested interest in seeing the new state fail. I’ve read that there are Iranian sabateurs in Iraq and it seems almost beyond doubt that there are Islamists from other Sunni Arab nations also operating in Iraq. If this is true, then isn’t it at least possible that the new Iraqi government will need the MNF to remain a while yet? It doesn’t seem unreasonable to give the new government some time to assume control over its borders and security.

]]> http://crookedtimber.org/2005/01/31/prospects-for-iraqi-democracy/comment-page-1/#comment-59257 Kieran Healy Tue, 01 Feb 2005 02:31:20 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/wp/?p=2816#comment-59257 <i>.I suppose you also believe that the governments of Germany, Japan, Belgium, etc. are all “inevitably playing second-fiddle to the U.S. occupying forces.”</i> It took longer than I expected, but the trolls have arrived at last. .I suppose you also believe that the governments of Germany, Japan, Belgium, etc. are all “inevitably playing second-fiddle to the U.S. occupying forces.” It took longer than I expected, but the trolls have arrived at last.

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