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	<title>Comments on: Liberty upsets patterns</title>
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		<title>By: Matthew Yglesias</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/03/05/liberty-upsets-patterns/comment-page-1/#comment-62627</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Yglesias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly, I was in the last undergraduate class Nozick taught. Enrollment was capped at 18 but it was actually undersubscribed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Interestingly, I was in the last undergraduate class Nozick taught. Enrollment was capped at 18 but it was actually undersubscribed.</p>
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		<title>By: micah</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/03/05/liberty-upsets-patterns/comment-page-1/#comment-62628</link>
		<dc:creator>micah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is interesting. What was the topic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>That is interesting. What was the topic?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/03/05/liberty-upsets-patterns/comment-page-1/#comment-62629</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I took &quot;Thinking about Thinking&quot; a decade or so ago, with Nozick, Stephen Jay Gould, and Alan Dershowitz at the helm. Huge lecture hall class and, frankly, not worth all that much. 

The upshot was lawyers, scientists, and philosophers tend to approach problems differently. Who knew?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I took &#8220;Thinking about Thinking&#8221; a decade or so ago, with Nozick, Stephen Jay Gould, and Alan Dershowitz at the helm. Huge lecture hall class and, frankly, not worth all that much.</p>

	<p>The upshot was lawyers, scientists, and philosophers tend to approach problems differently. Who knew?</p>
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		<title>By: washerdreyer</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/03/05/liberty-upsets-patterns/comment-page-1/#comment-62630</link>
		<dc:creator>washerdreyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fortunately, NYU has already solved this problem for 1L&#039;s by not giving us any meaningful choices at all.Our only choice is which of six professors to take &quot;The Administrative and Regulatory State&quot; with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Fortunately, <span class="caps">NYU</span> has already solved this problem for 1L&#8217;s by not giving us any meaningful choices at all.Our only choice is which of six professors to take &#8220;The Administrative and Regulatory State&#8221; with.</p>
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		<title>By: washerdreyer</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/03/05/liberty-upsets-patterns/comment-page-1/#comment-62631</link>
		<dc:creator>washerdreyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, the real issue is a) whether or not  Wilt Chamberlain could trade some period of time of watching him play basketball for a seat in Neuborne&#039;s class, and b) can a school force Wilt to redistribute his seat without violating anyone&#039;s rights?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Also, the real issue is a) whether or not  Wilt Chamberlain could trade some period of time of watching him play basketball for a seat in Neuborne&#8217;s class, and b) can a school force Wilt to redistribute his seat without violating anyone&#8217;s rights?</p>
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		<title>By: Backword Dave</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/03/05/liberty-upsets-patterns/comment-page-1/#comment-62632</link>
		<dc:creator>Backword Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I missing something here? But when I was an undergrad, I only went to lectures to get a clue about what would be in exams. Most of my learning was from books or journals. As long as you keep up with the reading material, you&#039;re set. A photocopy of a handout must be a lot cheaper than $500. Almost all the &#039;teaching&#039; was in tutorials, and they were complsory. (The exception was one class where there were only six of us -- probably because there were only six of us.)

When Noam Chomsky came to the Cardiff Law School, they used CCTV to show him in other lecture theatres for all those who couldn&#039;t in. Why is this beyond NYU who charge $38,000 a year?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Am I missing something here? But when I was an undergrad, I only went to lectures to get a clue about what would be in exams. Most of my learning was from books or journals. As long as you keep up with the reading material, you&#8217;re set. A photocopy of a handout must be a lot cheaper than $500. Almost all the &#8216;teaching&#8217; was in tutorials, and they were complsory. (The exception was one class where there were only six of us&#8212;probably because there were only six of us.)</p>

	<p>When Noam Chomsky came to the Cardiff Law School, they used <span class="caps">CCTV</span> to show him in other lecture theatres for all those who couldn&#8217;t in. Why is this beyond <span class="caps">NYU</span> who charge $38,000 a year?</p>
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		<title>By: hick</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/03/05/liberty-upsets-patterns/comment-page-1/#comment-62633</link>
		<dc:creator>hick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I might have paid someone hundreds would that have kept me from witnessing the Nozickian wind turbine.


Dershowitz shoud be attached to a polygraph and asked a few questions--such as, was OJ guilty? Have you ever lied while defending someone accused of murder? etc.


SJ Gould, with his flaws, was not such a bad thinker or writer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I might have paid someone hundreds would that have kept me from witnessing the Nozickian wind turbine.</p>


	<p>Dershowitz shoud be attached to a polygraph and asked a few questions&#8212;such as, was OJ guilty? Have you ever lied while defending someone accused of murder? etc.</p>


	<p><span class="caps">SJ </span>Gould, with his flaws, was not such a bad thinker or writer.</p>
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		<title>By: quitter</title>
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		<dc:creator>quitter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nozick once gave a lecture at my college. SRO at first; 30 minutes later 80% of the audience (including yours truly) had walked out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Nozick once gave a lecture at my college. <span class="caps">SRO</span> at first; 30 minutes later 80% of the audience (including yours truly) had walked out.</p>
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		<title>By: bza</title>
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		<dc:creator>bza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I took a graduate seminar with Nozick in the mid-90s.  He was most definitely coasting in his later years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I took a graduate seminar with Nozick in the mid-90s.  He was most definitely coasting in his later years.</p>
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		<title>By: backword dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>backword dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;SJ Gould, with his flaws&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ah, care to explain that? I assume you mean something beyond the trivial &#039;he, like everyone else, had flaws.&#039; He could be a trifle dull about baseball, but he was a very decent man with very decent principles who confounded the stereotype of academic experts and wrote very clearly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><blockquote><span class="caps">SJ </span>Gould, with his flaws</blockquote></p>

	<p>Ah, care to explain that? I assume you mean something beyond the trivial &#8216;he, like everyone else, had flaws.&#8217; He could be a trifle dull about baseball, but he was a very decent man with very decent principles who confounded the stereotype of academic experts and wrote very clearly.</p>
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		<title>By: hick</title>
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		<dc:creator>hick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I indicated, SJ Gould was an admirable though  occasionally arrogant writer on science topics, yet I think he was mistaken in his attacks on the psychologist Jensen and the g factor. There is no evidence that suggests Jensen was a racist: his education research did however lead to some conclusions which would tend to disappoint naive liberals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>As I indicated, <span class="caps">SJ </span>Gould was an admirable though  occasionally arrogant writer on science topics, yet I think he was mistaken in his attacks on the psychologist Jensen and the g factor. There is no evidence that suggests Jensen was a racist: his education research did however lead to some conclusions which would tend to disappoint naive liberals.</p>
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		<title>By: Micha Ghertner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micha Ghertner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And he was a dirty, dirty communist. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>And he was a dirty, dirty communist. :D</p>
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		<title>By: hick</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/03/05/liberty-upsets-patterns/comment-page-1/#comment-62639</link>
		<dc:creator>hick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there anything more amusing and really pathetic as the Ivy League faux-leftist? A Galbraith or Gould is understandable, but some of us out in hinterlands, imbibing the overwritten theoretical productions of the typical  multicultural, marxist, or feminist humanities major/dupe reach for a barf bag.  Ivy League Inc. is about as close to meritocratic and democratic educational ideals as well, the English monarchy--whose elite, private universities it was formulated upon. For most Ivy League bourgeois students, marxism and leftism are sort of a phase, like pot smoking: dispensed with (or at least converted into corporate liberalism) when they land their first urban professional job, or are admitted into law school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Is there anything more amusing and really pathetic as the Ivy League faux-leftist? A Galbraith or Gould is understandable, but some of us out in hinterlands, imbibing the overwritten theoretical productions of the typical  multicultural, marxist, or feminist humanities major/dupe reach for a barf bag.  Ivy League Inc. is about as close to meritocratic and democratic educational ideals as well, the English monarchy&#8212;whose elite, private universities it was formulated upon. For most Ivy League bourgeois students, marxism and leftism are sort of a phase, like pot smoking: dispensed with (or at least converted into corporate liberalism) when they land their first urban professional job, or are admitted into law school.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Bellmore</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/03/05/liberty-upsets-patterns/comment-page-1/#comment-62640</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Bellmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;He could be a trifle dull about baseball,&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

My god! And the sun is somewhat warm. I took one of his books on tape to keep me amused on a long drive, and it nearly cost me my life when I nodded off during an extended metaphor about baseball statistics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>&#8220;He could be a trifle dull about baseball,&#8221;</i></p>

	<p>My god! And the sun is somewhat warm. I took one of his books on tape to keep me amused on a long drive, and it nearly cost me my life when I nodded off during an extended metaphor about baseball statistics.</p>
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		<title>By: washerdreyer</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/03/05/liberty-upsets-patterns/comment-page-1/#comment-62641</link>
		<dc:creator>washerdreyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gould&#039;s Joe DiMaggio essay is a classic.  Seriously, most baseball fans I know like his work in that area.  Also, his essay on how his knowledge of statistics helped him deal with being diagnosed with cancer was fantastic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Gould&#8217;s Joe DiMaggio essay is a classic.  Seriously, most baseball fans I know like his work in that area.  Also, his essay on how his knowledge of statistics helped him deal with being diagnosed with cancer was fantastic.</p>
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