Embeded Reporter and New Developing Threat to MMP Border Watchers… http://www.kfyi.com/minuteman.html

MMP Border Watch aid U.S. Border Patrol – 141 illegals arrested to date and New Mexico request for MMP help… http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43664

Good One!! … http://www.americanthinker.com/comments.php?comments_id=1937

Border More Peaceful Since MMP Started…
http://www.azstarnet.com/dailystar/relatedarticles/68977.php

Billions of dollars are leaking out of the country to Mexico. This practice has become Mexico’s number one industry surpassing PeMex revenues in 2004.

Unabated and uncontrolled immigration brings a plethora of problems that is overwhelming the ability of taxpayers to continue to absorb the costs.

Human devaluation in Mexico and the increasing corruption has allowed over 10% of their entire population to invade the US. That 10% total represents more than 30% of able bodied males. A giant vacuum of brain power and talent has left the country. The damage done to Mexico through this practice only makes those staying feel more impoverished.

Unchecked population growth Worldwide creates a never ending pool of new invaders who must escape third world nations. This rapid population explosion in the world does not necessitate responsibility on the US’ part. Self preservation of our nation, our way of life and the quality we have built on the backs of hard working Americans is no reason to open the floodgates for illegals.

There are no jobs Americans will not do, this is a farce. We allow ourselves to believe this is a reason to let millions of invaders cross but a farce it remains.

It may be next to impossible for most would be immigrants to come to this country due to the legalities but that does not make illegal criminal border crossing ok. We have risen the number of legal immigrants over and over. This is our law, this is what we must uphold and support. For every illegal criminal border crosser, there is someone who qualifies being denied.

The US should and must: Increase Border Control and seal off all illegal means of entry. Enforce Immigration law. Identify, Arrest and Deport every single illegal criminal border crosser in our country no matter how long they have been here. Allow local police to enforce immigration law everywhere. Increase interior immigration enforcement 100fold.
Stop Anchor Baby practices. Identify employers who hire illegals and fine them out of business if they continue the practice. Then and only then will a worker program be enforceable.

HOHOCHI

I am happy about the MMP, because I see the negative impact illegal immigration is having in California.

According to some statistics medical care , education, and the impact on our prison systems costs each household in California around $1100 per year. While the businesses are profitting from cheap labor the taxpayers are paying to subsidize them. Big surprise.

As a teacher, I see the negative impact of illegal immigration on our schools and children. A teacher usually teaches to the middle of the class. What do you think an influx of uneducated and in many cases almost nonlingual children (many are not literate in Spanish or English)does to where the middle of the class lies. How about the mandated 40 minutes of ESL instruction in some districts? What do you think the other kids are missing out on during this time?

Its too bad we didn’t help Mexico build itself up like we did for Europe with the Marshall Plan. Maybe we wouldn’t have these problems.

I wanted to go on to say that Mexico is a resources rich country and is fully capable of supporting itself and its citizens. While i support the Minutemen and securing our borders, I sympathize with the immigrants coming here to work hard and make a better life for themselves (though we seem to get a disproportionately large share of criminals and gangstas too!)… anyway, while it might be easier to sneak across the border and labor away in the good old USA, maybe staying and cleaning up your own government is the best solution. It won’t be easy, as Mexico has a long history of political corruption it would be along tough road…. and i’d gladly support the US doing what it could to help such a transition… most Mexicans I know here in LA would prefer to be back with their families, in their country… they come to the US out of necessity.

Don’t hate on the Minutemen for protecting their country… and don’t hate the immigrants for making a better life for themselves. Hate the illegals who come here to deal drugs, steal and kill and hate the politicians who are corrupt.

the Minutemen are stepping up and doing the right thing. They are not there to harm anyone, only protect their country, which they have every right to do. Has anyone heard the story of one of their first “victims?” An illegal who they tended to with food and water as he stumbled out of the desert… giving an illegal food and water? boy, what “vigilantes” they are!

i agree with the above poster who said open borders should work both ways… when i can go into mexico and own land, get free medical care and schooling, and force everyone around me to use english to accomadate me, then we’ll be square.

i’m not anti-immigrant (in fact i can’t remember the last time i had a girlfriend who had english as her first language), but the idea that border security = racism is silly liberal gibberish.

the minutemen are doing us all a service. even those of you who seem to hate America.

As long as the volunteers of the Minuteman Project avoid confrontation, observe and report illegal aliens to the Border Patrol they have my support. It is long past time that the people of this nation take a more active role in what goes on here, instead of depending on the government to do everything for us.

Everybody in the world is welcome to move to this country as long as they do it legally. They should be forewarned tho, our government is broke(morally and fiscally) and our economic system is on the verge of collapse.

A bit about myself so you can see where my point of view comes from. I am Mexican; I am American (1st from the father, 2nd from the mother). Lived in Mexico about 25 years, and have lived in Texas for the remaining 5. I am in the U.S. legally, I married my 7 year long relationship sweetheart (She is Mexican). I will share with you all the complications we went through to get her to come live with me (married) in the good ol’ U.S. of A. But first, allow me to rant a little bit…

People in this country love to keep things in a nice little “simple package”, they love their stereotypes, they love their icons, they love to feel like victims. Living in Mexico, I never referred to someone by their race. Since I’ve live here, every time people speak about someone they must follow the name with “a black guy” a “white chick” a “Mexican guy” (Mexican of course to anyone with brown skin that speaks Spanish), if you are light skinned as I am it’s: “that’s funny, you don’t look Mexican”.

My wife and I, both are professionals; both of our families are what you could consider middle to upper-middle class in Mexico. It was easy for me to come to the U.S. because I am a Citizen and could. I sadly left Mexico because being a Licensed Architect (in Mexico) I would have been paid about $5.00/hour (and that is if I actually found work as an Architect and cost of life in Mexico is close to what it is in the U.S.). The same would come from my wife (Communications Major). We spent about $3,000 dollars through legal fees, plane tickets, etc (she had to fly to Ciudad Juarez (one of the most dangerous city in Mexico if you are a young woman) to have her tests done, get screened by the F.B.I., etc Go through several interviews. Not to mention that she got her tourist visa denied 2 times when she was trying to visit me. (but oh sweet irony, 1 or 2 of the 911 hijackers received their visa, or green card, in the mail after they were dead, what an effective immigration system).

And I could be having a totally different standpoint saying: “If we did it the right way every other Mexican should –immigrate- to the U.S. same way we did”. But the truth of the matter is doing it the “right way” is impossible for your average Mexican, and I am talking about 99% of Mexicans who don’t have fiancés that have American Citizenship. American Citizenship is near impossible to attain being 100% Mexican and not having American family.

You see my people every day, they wash your cars, they clean your office, they serve you your super sized McCrap; the company you work for probably hires many of them (through a subcontractor of course, to not have blood on their hands if they are illegal). The vast majority of these people are good hardworking people, who live bunched up in a 1 person apartment in groups of 6 or so, making ends meet and pushing forward.

Just recently was talking to a kid that works cleaning the office where I work and he was telling me how he works 2 (fulltime) jobs that are 40 miles apart, lives with 4 more guys (one is his brother), left his Girlfriend behind (most likely to never see again), and is just trying to make a living.

Now back on the Minute Man Project… Just today on Democracy Now! (http://www.democracynow.org) I heard a debate between Mike McGarry, media liaison for the Minuteman Project and Jennifer Allen, executive director of the Border Action Network. Mike McGarry kept referring to the “illegal immigrants” as an “invading force”. Knowing what I know, being what I am, and thinking of who I’ve met, I can tell you the problem starts with people like Mike, who are supporting this nationalist bigotry. I’m sure some of them probably don’t have their eyes open wide enough and mean no harm, but harm comes from this mentality.

The problem will not be solved by the RIGHT calling them “illegal aliens” and the LEFT calling them “immigrants”, because these are people, the problem is in the laws (not in semantics); the problem should be addressed by opening your minds, reforming the laws. Mexico needs the U.S. the U.S. needs Mexico, it’s that simple.

People speak of an “Illegal Alien Invasion” … well this country was founded by “Illegal Aliens” who systematically murdered the LEGITIMATE inhabitants of North America, brought slaves from Africa, and eventually colonized what is now called “The United States of America” Meanwhile the Spaniards were doing exactly the same, in other parts North, Central, and South America. It’s time to turn talk radio and FOX News off, and to start behaving like human beings.

Raise the minumum wage to a living wage and American citizens would then do the work.

How many of you have actually been to the area that you are talking about?

I have. I was just there last Thanks Giving with family that lives outside of Elfirda Az. It is out of control. Law abiding citizens fear for there safety. If you aid the illigal-immigrant than they will mark the trail to your property with a flag to let other know that you helped them out. And then the flood really begins. Many of the people there are living in fear. Home invasions have occurred. Attempted rapes have occured.

My sister-inlaw has loaded fire-arms at the ready at all times. Because she just doesn’t know the intentions of the folks coming on to the ranch and who the heck can take the chance. All this in the good old USA. So please don’t tell me about the poor illegal-immigrant.

What about the law abiding Mexican and South Americans that migrate to this country legally.

What message are we sending them? I’ll let you answer that question for yourselves.

For the UK folk – we have a Bill of Rights (the begining of our Constitution). The first 2 ammendments allow the exact freedoms that the MMP are exercising. The Bill of Rights was added (and those first 2 particuarly) to ensure that Amercians would never have to face the tyranny that their forefathers did in England.

It is a legal right to carry a gun in Arizona. The MMP has many reasons to carry a gun aside from using them to shoot Mexicans.

I challenge ANY of you to go to the MMP website and find ONE racist comment or incidence of inflammatory rhetoric.

The only racist or inflammatory rhetoric I have heard so far is from you LIBS (vigilantes, racists, yahoo’s, rednecks, “Hee Haw” fans, weekend warriors, migrant hunters, nutters, etc.)

In all honesty, the Left scares the hell out of me. YOU folks are the real “whack” jobs.

I find it incredibly galling that the Mexican government demands(!!) that the US government control the Minutemen and protect the Mexican citizens. They take no responsibilty for the control of their citizens that illegally cross our borders and break our laws and harm or kill our citizens.

People have died very close to my home from coyotes driving fast down the wrong side of the freeway with their lights out to avoid Border Patrol and causing head-on collisions. What about my civil rights to drive down the freeway without worrying about this?

The latter would give illegal aliens discounted college educations. Out-of-state U.S. citizens would pay the full price.

The interested reader should check out those bills and look at Bush’s position on them and other immigration-related bills. He is almost always on the same side as the ACLU, the Ford Foundation-sponsored MALDEF, the CPUSA, and the corrupt Mexican oligarchy. And, he’s on the opposite side from 75% or more of U.S. citizens.

As for #30:
You tell us that 20 or so people are great and they work hard. Does that mean you’re willing to vouch for the other 10-20 million illegal aliens in the U.S.? Would you, for instance, financially sponsor those 10-20 million? Would you guarantee that as a bloc they won’t be a danger to the U.S.?

And, would you be for open borders if, say, Russia did the same things Mexico does?

If Russia taught their schoolchildren that Alaska was part of Siberia and greater Russia and that it rightfully belonged to Russia, would you support open borders?

What if Russia had an explicit policy to send people to the U.S. in order to increase their control over our immigration system? What if Russia pimped the U.S. to other countries, encouraging them to send illegal aliens as well? What if Vladimir Putin said he was going to use his Russian consulates in the U.S. to “propagate militant activities” in order to get a “migration accord” passed? (Use google to see what I’m referring to.)

I guess there’s nothing we could do. After all, it would be racist to resist Russia’s expansionist plans, right?

I spent time in “the area” several years ago. Just to see what it was like for myself. I followed the dirt border road across the valley and mountains in question, from just east of Nogales to Douglas. The National Guard would have no problem channeling “undocumented” folks into killing zones. Sorry, I mean into collection points. Which would shut down the traffic in this area. So what.

Might as well leave this “nice safe area” for them to cross unless you have the political will to close the entire border length. That isn’t going to happen. I give the Minuteman Project credit for an excellent political stunt to raise awareness. Are they going to be really effective on the ground? No. But, 500 more BP agents and the additional aircraft “non-response” is cool.

Worst of all, I will no longer visit Organ Pipe Nat’l Monument, near the Luke border crossing station. The RV/Tent campground and visitor
Center is OK. Don’t drive the southernwestern dirt road loop or hike within it. To me that is really sad. It was one of my favorite “warm winter week” areas. Nevermore.

My wife and I ran into two high-value pickup point guys while hiking there in the daytime. Luckily, we were obviously unarmed (Federal Law)and not a threat. They asked directions to a spring we had passed. My wife thought they were “very nice” young men, but strangely not equipped for hiking. She had that part right.

I have a AZ CCW and “carry” on my hikes in lion/bear mt. areas near home. I am not afraid of “undocumenteds” (or bears or lions). But I don’t want to be ANYWHERE near “high-value” smugglers, “nice” or not.

This has no importance relative to the large issues, since it’s just a tiny little price we citizens pay.