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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/02/sociologically-improbable-phrases/comment-page-1/#comment-66350</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2005 00:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry - 

Your discovery requires a reworking of Don H&#039;s thesis:

from &quot;presence of SIPs in some ways really is evidence of stereotyped phrasing in writing.&quot; to &quot; presence of SIPs ... is evidence of stereotyped phrasing in writing despite avoidance of the most common cliches.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Barry &#8211;<br />
Your discovery requires a reworking of Don H&#8217;s thesis:</p>

	<p>from &#8220;presence of SIPs in some ways really is evidence of stereotyped phrasing in writing.&#8221; to &#8221; presence of SIPs &#8230; is evidence of stereotyped phrasing in writing despite avoidance of the most common cliches.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: snuh</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/02/sociologically-improbable-phrases/comment-page-1/#comment-66339</link>
		<dc:creator>snuh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>statistically improbable phrases for norman mailer&#039;s &lt;i&gt;why are we in vietnam&lt;/i&gt;: &quot;mixed shit, medium assholes, bull fuck, grade asshole, gone ape, dead ass&quot;.

let us hope this feature is never pg-13ed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>statistically improbable phrases for norman mailer&#8217;s <i>why are we in vietnam</i>: &#8220;mixed shit, medium assholes, bull fuck, grade asshole, gone ape, dead ass&#8221;.</p>

	<p>let us hope this feature is never pg-13ed.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Houghton</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/02/sociologically-improbable-phrases/comment-page-1/#comment-66284</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Houghton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2005 18:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;grand wazir&quot; is Improbable?  Only in the spelling; never seen the &quot;vizier&quot; in any form of English without the &quot;Grand&quot; being used...

arc - no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;grand wazir&#8221; is Improbable?  Only in the spelling; never seen the &#8220;vizier&#8221; in any form of English without the &#8220;Grand&#8221; being used&#8230;</p>

	<p>arc &#8211; no.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff R.</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/02/sociologically-improbable-phrases/comment-page-1/#comment-66269</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jared Diamond, &lt;i&gt;Guns, Germs, and Steel&lt;/i&gt;:food production arose, big wild mammals, wild mammal species, archaeological hallmarks, blueprint copying, societies with writing, mammal domestication, founder crops, indigenous food production

Ayn Rand, &lt;i&gt;Atlas Shrugged&lt;/i&gt;: pull peddlers, furnace foreman
(hm,  not so good.)  &lt;i&gt;The Fountainhead&lt;/i&gt; adds &quot;drafting room&quot; and &lt;i&gt;Anthem&lt;/i&gt; brings &quot;our brother men&quot;.  And &lt;i&gt;We the Living&lt;/i&gt;&#039;s &quot;ragged gray uniforms&quot;

Neal Stephenson, &lt;i&gt;Cryptonomicon&lt;/i&gt;: grand wazir, substitution alphabet, data haven, hive mind, dive plan, making license plates, strange information, main vault, math whizzes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Jared Diamond, <i>Guns, Germs, and Steel</i>:food production arose, big wild mammals, wild mammal species, archaeological hallmarks, blueprint copying, societies with writing, mammal domestication, founder crops, indigenous food production</p>

	<p>Ayn Rand, <i>Atlas Shrugged</i>: pull peddlers, furnace foreman<br />
(hm,  not so good.)  <i>The Fountainhead</i> adds &#8220;drafting room&#8221; and <i>Anthem</i> brings &#8220;our brother men&#8221;.  And <i>We the Living</i>&#8217;s &#8220;ragged gray uniforms&#8221;</p>

	<p>Neal Stephenson, <i>Cryptonomicon</i>: grand wazir, substitution alphabet, data haven, hive mind, dive plan, making license plates, strange information, main vault, math whizzes</p>
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		<title>By: clew</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/02/sociologically-improbable-phrases/comment-page-1/#comment-66209</link>
		<dc:creator>clew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2005 07:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to see what SIPs are Improbable w/r/t everything published before the work being scanned, and Probable w/r/t the works after. 

And Google and Amazon between them may manage to tell us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I would like to see what SIPs are Improbable w/r/t everything published before the work being scanned, and Probable w/r/t the works after.</p>

	<p>And Google and Amazon between them may manage to tell us.</p>
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		<title>By: SusanC</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/02/sociologically-improbable-phrases/comment-page-1/#comment-66112</link>
		<dc:creator>SusanC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2005 11:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan Drown, &lt;em&gt;The Da Vinci Code&lt;/em&gt;:
cilice belt, lame saint, seeded womb, lettered dials, corporal mortification, rosewood box, sacred feminine, royal bloodline, stone cylinder, sweater pocket

Julia Kristeva, &lt;em&gt;Powers of Horror&lt;/em&gt;:
biblical impurity, incest dread, impure opposition, primal repression, phobic object, pure signifier, symbolic law, paternal function


And I really must read Mary Douglas to find out what that Pangolin cult was all about..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Dan Drown, <em>The Da Vinci Code</em>:<br />
cilice belt, lame saint, seeded womb, lettered dials, corporal mortification, rosewood box, sacred feminine, royal bloodline, stone cylinder, sweater pocket</p>

	<p>Julia Kristeva, <em>Powers of Horror</em>:<br />
biblical impurity, incest dread, impure opposition, primal repression, phobic object, pure signifier, symbolic law, paternal function</p>


	<p>And I really must read Mary Douglas to find out what that Pangolin cult was all about..</p>
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		<title>By: A. Cephalous</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/02/sociologically-improbable-phrases/comment-page-1/#comment-66059</link>
		<dc:creator>A. Cephalous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2005 23:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The books all appear in the works cited page of my current dissertation chapter, but until now I really didn&#039;t understand them:

&lt;i&gt;The Education of Henry Adams&lt;/i&gt;: diplomatic education, accidental education, supersensual chaos, larger synthesis, rebel agents

&lt;i&gt;John Barleycorn&lt;/i&gt;, Jack London: salmon boat, oyster pirates, night coal, long sickness, desire for alcohol

&lt;i&gt;Origin of Species&lt;/i&gt;, Charles Darwin: temperate productions, genera descended, transitional gradations, unknown progenitor, fossiliferous formations, our domestic breeds, modified offspring, doubtful forms, closely allied forms, profitable variations, enormously remote, transitional grades, very distinct species, mongrel offspring, and, of course, diversified habits (a nice indication of his annoyance with Lamarck)

The SIPs for &lt;i&gt;The Descent of Man&lt;/i&gt; aren&#039;t as indicative of the larger argument: more beautiful males, colour from the females, rivalry with other males, build concealed nests, stridulating organs, from some lower form, build open nests, anthropomorphous apes



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The books all appear in the works cited page of my current dissertation chapter, but until now I really didn&#8217;t understand them:</p>

	<p><i>The Education of Henry Adams</i>: diplomatic education, accidental education, supersensual chaos, larger synthesis, rebel agents</p>

	<p><i>John Barleycorn</i>, Jack London: salmon boat, oyster pirates, night coal, long sickness, desire for alcohol</p>

	<p><i>Origin of Species</i>, Charles Darwin: temperate productions, genera descended, transitional gradations, unknown progenitor, fossiliferous formations, our domestic breeds, modified offspring, doubtful forms, closely allied forms, profitable variations, enormously remote, transitional grades, very distinct species, mongrel offspring, and, of course, diversified habits (a nice indication of his annoyance with Lamarck)</p>

	<p>The SIPs for <i>The Descent of Man</i> aren&#8217;t as indicative of the larger argument: more beautiful males, colour from the females, rivalry with other males, build concealed nests, stridulating organs, from some lower form, build open nests, anthropomorphous apes</p>




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		<title>By: Jim Anderson</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/02/sociologically-improbable-phrases/comment-page-1/#comment-66056</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2005 23:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bald Soprano and Other Plays:

adore hashed brown potatoes, such caca, clicks his tongue, three noses, invisible crowd, upstage center, invisible guests, such cascades, general factotum</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The Bald Soprano and Other Plays:</p>

	<p>adore hashed brown potatoes, such caca, clicks his tongue, three noses, invisible crowd, upstage center, invisible guests, such cascades, general factotum</p>
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		<title>By: John Emerson</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/02/sociologically-improbable-phrases/comment-page-1/#comment-66039</link>
		<dc:creator>John Emerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naked Lunch:

old gash, old junky, his cock, sick morning</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Naked Lunch:</p>

	<p>old gash, old junky, his cock, sick morning</p>
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		<title>By: John Emerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Emerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thus Spake Zarathustra:

you higher men, lust after eternity, voluntary beggar, wretched contentment, fire hound, famous wise men, ass festival, great noon, nuptial ring, wild wisdom, poisonous flies, great nausea, stillest hour, old tablets, ugliest man, final sin, higher man, old pope, old magician</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thus Spake Zarathustra:</p>

	<p>you higher men, lust after eternity, voluntary beggar, wretched contentment, fire hound, famous wise men, ass festival, great noon, nuptial ring, wild wisdom, poisonous flies, great nausea, stillest hour, old tablets, ugliest man, final sin, higher man, old pope, old magician</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Freed</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/02/sociologically-improbable-phrases/comment-page-1/#comment-66035</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Freed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At some risk of stepping on norbizness&#039; toes, I endeavored to find out the SIPs contained in &quot;Chicken Soup for the NASCAR Soul.&quot;  Alas, there were none.  I tremble at the implications this has for vis-a-vis Don&#039;s hypothesis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>At some risk of stepping on norbizness&#8217; toes, I endeavored to find out the SIPs contained in &#8220;Chicken Soup for the <span class="caps">NASCAR </span>Soul.&#8221;  Alas, there were none.  I tremble at the implications this has for vis-a-vis Don&#8217;s hypothesis.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The Trial&lt;/i&gt;, by Franz Kafka: ostensible acquittal; definite acquittal.

Brilliant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>The Trial</i>, by Franz Kafka: ostensible acquittal; definite acquittal.</p>

	<p>Brilliant.</p>
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		<title>By: A. Cephalous</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/02/sociologically-improbable-phrases/comment-page-1/#comment-66032</link>
		<dc:creator>A. Cephalous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to toot my own horn--not that I can (lacking equipment vital to tooting)--but I&#039;ve written a bit on SIPs in literature that everyone&#039;s more than welcome to check out, comment on, and mock me mercilessly for...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Not to toot my own horn&#8212;not that I can (lacking equipment vital to tooting)&#8212;but I&#8217;ve written a bit on SIPs in literature that everyone&#8217;s more than welcome to check out, comment on, and mock me mercilessly for&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: don hosek</title>
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		<dc:creator>don hosek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2005 19:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, presence of SIPs in some ways really is evidence of stereotyped phrasing in writing. I know that I&#039;m guilty of this in my sloppier writing moments: If I&#039;m not careful there are words and phrases that repeat themselves.

In a non-fiction book, you may get certain phrases which repeat themselves because of the nature of the work, but looking at some fiction that was indexed by amazon, it seemed that a large number of SIPs was indicative of poor writing style. I kind of think that this may also apply to non-fiction, where poor writing is much more common.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Actually, presence of SIPs in some ways really is evidence of stereotyped phrasing in writing. I know that I&#8217;m guilty of this in my sloppier writing moments: If I&#8217;m not careful there are words and phrases that repeat themselves.</p>

	<p>In a non-fiction book, you may get certain phrases which repeat themselves because of the nature of the work, but looking at some fiction that was indexed by amazon, it seemed that a large number of SIPs was indicative of poor writing style. I kind of think that this may also apply to non-fiction, where poor writing is much more common.</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2005 18:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet that the phrases from &quot;Capital&quot;, for instance, are just the terms that Marx coined that did _not_ catch on in a broad way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I bet that the phrases from &#8220;Capital&#8221;, for instance, are just the terms that Marx coined that did <em>not</em> catch on in a broad way.</p>
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