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	<title>Comments on: Holding your tongue</title>
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	<description>Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made</description>
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		<title>By: strewelpeter</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/03/holding-your-tongue/comment-page-1/#comment-66216</link>
		<dc:creator>strewelpeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2005 10:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It wasn’t a proud moment for Irish Catholicism&quot;
errrmmmm...They had so many moments to be proud of.

Seriously I can&#039;t think of one since they did for Parnell and I&#039;m only guessing that there must have been some before then. All that running around saying Mass on top of mountains and starting huriling clubs etc.
I&#039;m thinking in terms of the institution rather than individuals here.
Anyway thanks for the post and the link, I hadn&#039;t come across it before, good stuff.
B.T.W. I haven&#039;t seen so much activity around the local churches as there was this weekend since last holy communion season.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;It wasn&#8217;t a proud moment for Irish Catholicism&#8221;<br />
errrmmmm&#8230;They had so many moments to be proud of.</p>

	<p>Seriously I can&#8217;t think of one since they did for Parnell and I&#8217;m only guessing that there must have been some before then. All that running around saying Mass on top of mountains and starting huriling clubs etc.<br />
I&#8217;m thinking in terms of the institution rather than individuals here.<br />
Anyway thanks for the post and the link, I hadn&#8217;t come across it before, good stuff.<br />
B.T.W. I haven&#8217;t seen so much activity around the local churches as there was this weekend since last holy communion season.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs Tilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs Tilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2005 15:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris Agee gives a good summation, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.archipelago.org/vol5-1/agee2.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;also available online&lt;/a&gt;, of the Stepinac business and how it burnt Butler&#039;s fingers. Butler witnessed and reported on some other unproud Irish catholic moments as well, notably the Fethard-on-Sea unpleasantness in his 1958 piece &#039;Boycott Village&#039;. SFAICT this one is not online, so people will have to shell out cash to Amazon for it. And well they should; a shelf without a collection of Butler&#039;s essays is a shelf half-bare.

To be fair, Irish protestantism has not been without its own unproud moments. It affords Butler&#039;s shade some rest, I hope, that when we read of the things he wrote about today, it all seems so very long ago. I like to think his humane spirit is one of the things that helped make them so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Chris Agee gives a good summation, <a href="http://www.archipelago.org/vol5-1/agee2.htm" rel="nofollow">also available online</a>, of the Stepinac business and how it burnt Butler&#8217;s fingers. Butler witnessed and reported on some other unproud Irish catholic moments as well, notably the Fethard-on-Sea unpleasantness in his 1958 piece &#8216;Boycott Village&#8217;. <span class="caps">SFAICT</span> this one is not online, so people will have to shell out cash to Amazon for it. And well they should; a shelf without a collection of Butler&#8217;s essays is a shelf half-bare.</p>

	<p>To be fair, Irish protestantism has not been without its own unproud moments. It affords Butler&#8217;s shade some rest, I hope, that when we read of the things he wrote about today, it all seems so very long ago. I like to think his humane spirit is one of the things that helped make them so.</p>
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