Comments on: When the Pope came to Ireland http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/03/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/ Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:31:18 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Crooked Timber » » Unsolicited Advice for Benedict XVI http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/03/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-68544 Crooked Timber » » Unsolicited Advice for Benedict XVI Wed, 20 Apr 2005 04:58:06 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/02/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/#comment-68544 [...] have saved a terrific amount of theological confusion amongst under-twelves if, before his visit to Ireland in 1979, he’d been told to make sure everyone [...] [...] have saved a terrific amount of theological confusion amongst under-twelves if, before his visit to Ireland in 1979, he’d been told to make sure everyone [...]

]]> By: Sean http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/03/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-66883 Sean Fri, 08 Apr 2005 18:55:31 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/02/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/#comment-66883 sorry forgot to put email addresse thank you! sorry forgot to put email addresse thank you!

]]> By: Sean http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/03/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-66882 Sean Fri, 08 Apr 2005 18:54:14 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/02/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/#comment-66882 Hiya my dad was one of the guards that looked after the pope in ireland 1979 september he was 17 i was wondering if you had a picture of the stage if you do please send me it thank you! Sean Hiya my dad was one of the guards that looked after the pope in ireland 1979 september he was 17 i was wondering if you had a picture of the stage if you do please send me it thank you!

Sean

]]> By: Holy Shmoly! :: “Young People of Ireland, I Love You” http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/03/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-66836 Holy Shmoly! :: “Young People of Ireland, I Love You” Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:06:25 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/02/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/#comment-66836 [...] The Pope blog and elsewhere. You can read more about the Pope’s visit to Ireland at crookedtimber.org. Related Stori [...] [...] The Pope blog and elsewhere. You can read more about the Pope’s visit to Ireland at crookedtimber.org. Related Stori [...]

]]> By: seamus donohoe http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/03/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-66822 seamus donohoe Fri, 08 Apr 2005 07:08:59 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/02/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/#comment-66822 Nice article. I remember when he came to Dublin. Myself and the eight other kids packed into the top of a double decker bus to the park. I had never seen so many people in one place and still have not since. It was a wonderful day, one I'll not forget soon. God Bless St John Paul 11 Nice article. I remember when he came to Dublin. Myself and the eight other kids packed into the top of a double decker bus to the park. I had never seen so many people in one place and still have not since. It was a wonderful day, one I’ll not forget soon.

God Bless St John Paul 11

]]> By: Jeff http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/03/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-66819 Jeff Fri, 08 Apr 2005 03:38:00 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/02/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/#comment-66819 [aeiou]God bless you Pope John Paul. May Christ welcome you home. You will be greatly missed. P.S. Progressive Pinhead: Actually John Paul excommunicated 400 Preists last year for "kiddie fiddling" and was apalled by such acts. As far as homosexuality goes, I happen to know 45- 50 "queers" personally (I'm hetero). All of them are permiscuous, self-centered, and self- absorbed. THAT is why they are disobliged. And FYI: Consider this- God CREATED evolution!!! I don't see who else could. Gd blss y Pp Jhn Pl. My Chrst wlcm y hm. Y wll b grtly mssd.
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]]> By: paul http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/03/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-66533 paul Tue, 05 Apr 2005 23:31:46 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/02/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/#comment-66533 ...that night Phil Collins outdrew the pope... Fortunately, Phil Collins' popularity also entered a long period of decline, probably quite soon after that Auckland concert... …that night Phil Collins outdrew the pope…

Fortunately, Phil Collins’ popularity also entered a long period of decline, probably quite soon after that Auckland concert…

]]> By: Crooked Timber » » The Pope in Ireland III http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/03/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-66428 Crooked Timber » » The Pope in Ireland III Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:30:01 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/02/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/#comment-66428 [...] by Maria This post should probably be called The Pope in Ireland II, following Kieran’s post of a couple of days ago. But I’m not quite ready to [...] [...] by Maria This post should probably be called The Pope in Ireland II, following Kieran’s post of a couple of days ago. But I’m not quite ready to [...]

]]> By: Tom Doyle http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/03/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-66352 Tom Doyle Tue, 05 Apr 2005 00:19:28 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/02/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/#comment-66352 "One of the neighborhood mothers saw me, and scolded me for not being at home watching like everyone else. I was very outraged by the assumption that I must be Catholic." Walt Pohl: I'm a Catholic, and regret any outrage or insult that you experienced are a result of the incident you describe. Please accept this apology, given unconditionally, and without reservations. I have no authority to speak for the Catholic Church, or any of its subdivisions. Neither did the individual who accosted you. I hope you accept this unauthorized apology for the unauthorized insults you were subject to. It occurs to me that your misidentification as a Catholic had a relatively benign outcome. It might have been worse. As I'm sure you know, the pedophile priests problem was mishandled by the Church in the US as well as Ireland. It was certainly being mishandled when the pope visited Philadelphia. Had one of those priests mistaken you for a Catholic, rather than the "neighborhood mother," ...well, lets just say that the outrage might well have been of a different order of magnitude altogether. “One of the neighborhood mothers saw me, and scolded me for not being at home watching like everyone else. I was very outraged by the assumption that I must be Catholic.”

Walt Pohl:

I’m a Catholic, and regret any outrage or insult that you experienced are a result of the incident you describe. Please accept this apology, given unconditionally, and without reservations. I have no authority to speak for the Catholic Church, or any of its subdivisions. Neither did the individual who accosted you. I hope you accept this unauthorized apology for the unauthorized insults you were subject to.

It occurs to me that your misidentification as a Catholic had a relatively benign outcome. It might have been worse. As I’m sure you know, the pedophile priests problem was mishandled by the Church in the US as well as Ireland. It was certainly being mishandled when the pope visited Philadelphia.

Had one of those priests mistaken you for a Catholic, rather than the “neighborhood mother,” …well, lets just say that the outrage might well have been of a different order of magnitude altogether.

]]> By: Steve LaBonne http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/03/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-66275 Steve LaBonne Mon, 04 Apr 2005 17:31:25 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/02/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/#comment-66275 Pinhead, the greatest artwork it inspired was a long poem by some Italian guy- you might have heard of him. As I recall he didn't have very nice things (to put it mildly) to say about the church hierarchy of his time. Pinhead, the greatest artwork it inspired was a long poem by some Italian guy- you might have heard of him. As I recall he didn’t have very nice things (to put it mildly) to say about the church hierarchy of his time.

]]> By: Tom http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/03/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-66268 Tom Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:55:30 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/02/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/#comment-66268 Re: progressive pinhead - don't know how tongue-in-cheek you mean to be, or for that matter which of the extremes you're trying to satirize (those who would toss out the catholic church entirely, or those who would trivialize the sexual abuse of children and other large-scale, systemic abuses of power). suffice to say that the perennial challenge for the catholic church is saving itself from philistinism. the church in ireland was too slow to confront this challenge by a century or so, and has paid the price (as the church in the US seems destined to do as well) - and those of us who love the church despite its flaws can only hope that it starts learning from this crack-up before it loses its connection to the people entirely. Re: progressive pinhead –
don’t know how tongue-in-cheek you mean to be, or for that matter which of the extremes you’re trying to satirize (those who would toss out the catholic church entirely, or those who would trivialize the sexual abuse of children and other large-scale, systemic abuses of power). suffice to say that the perennial challenge for the catholic church is saving itself from philistinism. the church in ireland was too slow to confront this challenge by a century or so, and has paid the price (as the church in the US seems destined to do as well) – and those of us who love the church despite its flaws can only hope that it starts learning from this crack-up before it loses its connection to the people entirely.

]]> By: Uncle Kvetch http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/03/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-66223 Uncle Kvetch Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:13:21 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/02/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/#comment-66223 <i>So let’s scrap the whole thing and start worshipping Evolution instead.</i> OK with me. So let’s scrap the whole thing and start worshipping Evolution instead.

OK with me.

]]> By: nick http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/03/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-66188 nick Mon, 04 Apr 2005 01:16:27 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/02/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/#comment-66188 <i>What, no mention of Father Ted?</i> My thought exactly. Heck, can we count it along with the great creative works inspired by the Catholic Church? And throw in Dave Allen as well? And <i>Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man</i>? What, no mention of Father Ted?

My thought exactly.

Heck, can we count it along with the great creative works inspired by the Catholic Church? And throw in Dave Allen as well? And Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man?

]]> By: Progressive Pinhead http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/03/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-66181 Progressive Pinhead Sun, 03 Apr 2005 23:07:51 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/02/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/#comment-66181 For 2,000 years the Roman Catholic Church has expanded throughout the world, inspiring some of its greatest art, music and philosophy, cheering the living and consoling the dying, until today it claims the allegiance of 1,000,000,000 souls. But, hey, some priests were kiddy fiddlers and John Paul II said disobliging things about queers. So let's scrap the whole thing and start worshipping Evolution instead. For 2,000 years the Roman Catholic Church has expanded throughout the world, inspiring some of its greatest art, music and philosophy, cheering the living and consoling the dying, until today it claims the allegiance of 1,000,000,000 souls.

But, hey, some priests were kiddy fiddlers and John Paul II said disobliging things about queers. So let’s scrap the whole thing and start worshipping Evolution instead.

]]> By: Clark http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/03/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-66160 Clark Sun, 03 Apr 2005 19:34:55 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/02/when-the-pope-came-to-ireland/#comment-66160 What, no mention of Father Ted? What, no mention of Father Ted?

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