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	<description>Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made</description>
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		<title>By: lakelobos</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/21/perpetual-is-as-perpetual-does/comment-page-1/#comment-69149</link>
		<dc:creator>lakelobos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Politics in the Vatican? &quot;I&#039;m shocked.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Politics in the Vatican? &#8220;I&#8217;m shocked.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Bernie Nicholls</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/21/perpetual-is-as-perpetual-does/comment-page-1/#comment-69123</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernie Nicholls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2005 02:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re going to be irreverent and ridicule church officials, at least make sure your jokes are funny.  All of the above are bombs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If you&#8217;re going to be irreverent and ridicule church officials, at least make sure your jokes are funny.  All of the above are bombs.</p>
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		<title>By: nofundy</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/21/perpetual-is-as-perpetual-does/comment-page-1/#comment-68991</link>
		<dc:creator>nofundy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone expected the Cardinals to actually tell the truth about keeping a secret??  They don&#039;t know the church very well, do they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Someone expected the Cardinals to actually tell the truth about keeping a secret??  They don&#8217;t know the church very well, do they?</p>
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		<title>By: tad brennan</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/21/perpetual-is-as-perpetual-does/comment-page-1/#comment-68962</link>
		<dc:creator>tad brennan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s pretty clear which Cardinal talked--the really short squeeky one in the ill-fitting Francis Arinze costume:

http://fafblog.blogspot.com/

Giblets sneers at your oaths of perpetual secrecy!  Stupid oaths!  Perpetuity cannot outlast Giblets!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I think it&#8217;s pretty clear which Cardinal talked&#8212;the really short squeeky one in the ill-fitting Francis Arinze costume:</p>

	<p><a href="http://fafblog.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://fafblog.blogspot.com/</a></p>

	<p>Giblets sneers at your oaths of perpetual secrecy!  Stupid oaths!  Perpetuity cannot outlast Giblets!</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Kvetch</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/21/perpetual-is-as-perpetual-does/comment-page-1/#comment-68961</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Kvetch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I know it’s impossible to properly conceive of eternity within the finitute of the human mind&lt;/i&gt;

This will come as news to George Bush&#039;s economic advisors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>I know it&#8217;s impossible to properly conceive of eternity within the finitute of the human mind</i></p>

	<p>This will come as news to George Bush&#8217;s economic advisors.</p>
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		<title>By: tlr</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/21/perpetual-is-as-perpetual-does/comment-page-1/#comment-68941</link>
		<dc:creator>tlr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, in some places, people are now hoping that unpopular archbishop-cardinals may get excommunicated for breaking their oath of silence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well, in some places, people are now hoping that unpopular archbishop-cardinals may get excommunicated for breaking their oath of silence.</p>
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		<title>By: Delicious pundit</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/04/21/perpetual-is-as-perpetual-does/comment-page-1/#comment-68929</link>
		<dc:creator>Delicious pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 06:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the R.C. brand Church stands for quality showbizz.  Consider the morality plays.  Or the shameless reworkings of pop tunes of the day like &quot;L&#039;Homme Arme.&quot;  

And when I married a Protestant and went to my first Methodist church service, I was stunned to find out they had no second act.  It was all exposition.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>But the R.C. brand Church stands for quality showbizz.  Consider the morality plays.  Or the shameless reworkings of pop tunes of the day like &#8220;L&#8217;Homme Arme.&#8221;</p>

	<p>And when I married a Protestant and went to my first Methodist church service, I was stunned to find out they had no second act.  It was all exposition.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 06:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it was quite show-bizzy that Ratzinger&#039;s peers elected him in part because he gives good funeral. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I thought it was quite show-bizzy that Ratzinger&#8217;s peers elected him in part because he gives good funeral.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Freed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Freed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 05:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, the voting procedure is pretty fascinating.  But they left out the part where the Cardinal who casts the decisive vote has to cry out &quot;Bingo!&quot;

Actually Security maven and Crypto-Guru Bruce Schneier had a very interesting analysis of the voting procedure from a security standpoint:

http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/04/hacking_the_pap_1.html

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yeah, the voting procedure is pretty fascinating.  But they left out the part where the Cardinal who casts the decisive vote has to cry out &#8220;Bingo!&#8221;</p>

	<p>Actually Security maven and Crypto-Guru Bruce Schneier had a very interesting analysis of the voting procedure from a security standpoint:</p>

	<p><a href="http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/04/hacking_the_pap_1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/04/hacking_the_pap_1.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 02:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heck, they can go to confession and get off with ten Hail Marys and a Glory Be. Actually, I think the cardinals have kept to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4457939.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;letter&lt;/a&gt; and most of the spirit of the oath, and there&#039;s a fair amount of (well-informed) reading between the lines from the press reporters.

And in keeping with the earlier thread, bending the rules? Tch, that&#039;s Catholicism in the real world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Heck, they can go to confession and get off with ten Hail Marys and a Glory Be. Actually, I think the cardinals have kept to the <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4457939.stm" rel="nofollow">letter</a> and most of the spirit of the oath, and there&#8217;s a fair amount of (well-informed) reading between the lines from the press reporters.</p>

	<p>And in keeping with the earlier thread, bending the rules? Tch, that&#8217;s Catholicism in the real world.</p>
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		<title>By: riffle</title>
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		<dc:creator>riffle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 02:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was taken by another quote from that Washington Post piece:
&quot;Following centuries-old procedures revised by John Paul in 1996, each voted by writing the name of his preferred candidate on a folded piece of paper, &lt;b&gt;then held it up to show the entire assembly that it was a single ballot&lt;/b&gt; before depositing it into a urn.&quot;

I&#039;m not sure I&#039;d  trust a cardinal since they don&#039;t even trust each other, even during an event they apparently feel is so incredibly holy.

riffle
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I was taken by another quote from that Washington Post piece:<br />
&#8220;Following centuries-old procedures revised by John Paul in 1996, each voted by writing the name of his preferred candidate on a folded piece of paper, <b>then held it up to show the entire assembly that it was a single ballot</b> before depositing it into a urn.&#8221;</p>

	<p>I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d  trust a cardinal since they don&#8217;t even trust each other, even during an event they apparently feel is so incredibly holy.</p>

	<p>riffle</p>
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