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	<title>Comments on: Samuel Beckett Smiles</title>
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	<description>Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made</description>
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		<title>By: BobM</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/05/04/happy-days/comment-page-1/#comment-71006</link>
		<dc:creator>BobM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2005 20:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She invoked conservative saint Friedrich A. Hayek, but didn&#039;t mention what he said about social insurance programs. In The Road to Serfdom, he wrote that there was no reason why a society as wealthy as ours could not guarantee &quot;security against severe physical privation, the certainty of a given minimum of sustenance for all. . . . without endangering general freedom.&quot; Today&#039;s wingnuts probably would call him a RINO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>She invoked conservative saint Friedrich A. Hayek, but didn&#8217;t mention what he said about social insurance programs. In The Road to Serfdom, he wrote that there was no reason why a society as wealthy as ours could not guarantee &#8220;security against severe physical privation, the certainty of a given minimum of sustenance for all. . . . without endangering general freedom.&#8221; Today&#8217;s wingnuts probably would call him a <span class="caps">RINO</span>.</p>
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		<title>By: peter luciak</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/05/04/happy-days/comment-page-1/#comment-70732</link>
		<dc:creator>peter luciak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 12:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case you care, here&#039;s the source of the quote (the whole thing seems to be hardly readable)
http://www.samuel-beckett.net/w_ho.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>In case you care, here&#8217;s the source of the quote (the whole thing seems to be hardly readable)<br />
<a href="http://www.samuel-beckett.net/w_ho.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.samuel-beckett.net/w_ho.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jackmormon</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/05/04/happy-days/comment-page-1/#comment-70563</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackmormon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2005 11:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Beckett quote makes me think of a song from Brecht&#039;s Threepenny Opera:
&lt;blockquote&gt;If first you don&#039;t succeed,
Then try and try again,
And if you don&#039;t succeed again,
Just try and try and try.

Useless, it&#039;s useless,
You can never try enough,
Take it from me, it&#039;s useless,
You haven&#039;t got the stuff.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Which is of course sung to a jaunty, stacatto, major-key show tune.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>That Beckett quote makes me think of a song from Brecht&#8217;s Threepenny Opera:<br />
<blockquote>If first you don&#8217;t succeed,<br />
Then try and try again,<br />
And if you don&#8217;t succeed again,<br />
Just try and try and try.</blockquote></p>

	<p>Useless, it&#8217;s useless,<br />
You can never try enough,<br />
Take it from me, it&#8217;s useless,<br />
You haven&#8217;t got the stuff.</p>

	<p>Which is of course sung to a jaunty, stacatto, major-key show tune.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/05/04/happy-days/comment-page-1/#comment-70519</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2005 00:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;it was cast with two famous comedy actors of the time, and the promoters didn’t really know what the play was all about, so the posters and promotions of the day talked it up as “the laugh riot of three continents”. Audiences were baffled, to say the least.&lt;/i&gt;

Bert &quot;Cowardly Lion&quot; Lahr as Estragon and Tom Ewell (who I pretty much know solely as Marilyn Monroe&#039;s foil in &lt;i&gt;The Seven Year Itch&lt;/i&gt;) as Vladimir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>it was cast with two famous comedy actors of the time, and the promoters didn&#8217;t really know what the play was all about, so the posters and promotions of the day talked it up as &#8220;the laugh riot of three continents&#8221;. Audiences were baffled, to say the least.</i></p>

	<p>Bert &#8220;Cowardly Lion&#8221; Lahr as Estragon and Tom Ewell (who I pretty much know solely as Marilyn Monroe&#8217;s foil in <i>The Seven Year Itch</i>) as Vladimir.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeO</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/05/04/happy-days/comment-page-1/#comment-70461</link>
		<dc:creator>JoeO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2005 18:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Recently, I saw a quote attributed to Samuel Beckett.

She is not pretending that she is using the quote in context. She doesn&#039;t really care who wrote it. She is using the quote as an aphorism. Just like everyone else who uses the quote. 

The rest of the speech is pretty scary. (If I understand it right. Damn Straussians.)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>>Recently, I saw a quote attributed to Samuel Beckett.</p>

	<p>She is not pretending that she is using the quote in context. She doesn&#8217;t really care who wrote it. She is using the quote as an aphorism. Just like everyone else who uses the quote.</p>

	<p>The rest of the speech is pretty scary. (If I understand it right. Damn Straussians.)</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/05/04/happy-days/comment-page-1/#comment-70456</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2005 17:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacob, you&#039;re right about Mark and misquotation - I&#039;ll correct it forthwith. And what I identify isn&#039;t a misquotation (the quotation is accurate); it&#039;s a sort of misprision in Bloom&#039;s sense of the word (a sort of perversely creative misreading).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Jacob, you&#8217;re right about Mark and misquotation &#8211; I&#8217;ll correct it forthwith. And what I identify isn&#8217;t a misquotation (the quotation is accurate); it&#8217;s a sort of misprision in Bloom&#8217;s sense of the word (a sort of perversely creative misreading).</p>
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		<title>By: Wrye</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/05/04/happy-days/comment-page-1/#comment-70454</link>
		<dc:creator>Wrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2005 17:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should clarify...the first big *North American* premiere</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I should clarify&#8230;the first big <strong>North American</strong> premiere</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/05/04/happy-days/comment-page-1/#comment-70453</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2005 17:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always assumed that natural starting point would be Murphy rather than Watt. Murphy is far more accessible and just as good. 

And based on the Guardian article, it sounds like Beckett scholars consider his English writings to be apprentice material or something. What the hell. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I always assumed that natural starting point would be Murphy rather than Watt. Murphy is far more accessible and just as good.</p>

	<p>And based on the Guardian article, it sounds like Beckett scholars consider his English writings to be apprentice material or something. What the hell.</p>
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		<title>By: Wrye</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/05/04/happy-days/comment-page-1/#comment-70452</link>
		<dc:creator>Wrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2005 17:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a funny story about the first big premiere of Godot; I don&#039;t have the details handy and can&#039;t research while at work, but the gist is,it was cast with two famous comedy actors of the time, and the promoters didn&#039;t really know what the play was all about, so the posters and promotions of the day talked it up as &quot;the laugh riot of three continents&quot;.  Audiences were baffled, to say the least.

It&#039;s funny--but it&#039;s not the three stooges, either.  Same deal with Chekhov. He always described his plays as comedies, but I&#039;m not sure your average theatre goer would agree...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>There&#8217;s a funny story about the first big premiere of Godot; I don&#8217;t have the details handy and can&#8217;t research while at work, but the gist is,it was cast with two famous comedy actors of the time, and the promoters didn&#8217;t really know what the play was all about, so the posters and promotions of the day talked it up as &#8220;the laugh riot of three continents&#8221;.  Audiences were baffled, to say the least.</p>

	<p>It&#8217;s funny&#8212;but it&#8217;s not the three stooges, either.  Same deal with Chekhov. He always described his plays as comedies, but I&#8217;m not sure your average theatre goer would agree&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob T. Levy</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/05/04/happy-days/comment-page-1/#comment-70450</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob T. Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2005 16:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this a misquotation of Beckett?  I&#039;ve seen the words attributed to him before.  The &lt;i&gt;use&lt;/i&gt; of them is entirely at odds with the spirit of Beckett&#039;s own use, of course.  

I know Henry doesn&#039;t refer to this as a misquotation, but it follows on his reference to Mark&#039;s use of the word &quot;misquotation,&quot; when as far as I can tell he&#039;s identified one misattribution (of the sort that&#039;s cringe-inducing but common enough-- attribution to a secondary source who herself didn&#039;t think to footnote because of an assumption of shared cultural literacy) and one true statement that Mark thinks is being given an unwarrantedly sinister cast (that Marshall was Keynes&#039; teacher), and no misquotation. 

Mark doesn&#039;t say he&#039;d identified misquotations, either-- he compares her to the misquoting Otto.  But-- game of telephone-- Henry characterizes Mark as having caught her in misquotations.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Is this a misquotation of Beckett?  I&#8217;ve seen the words attributed to him before.  The <i>use</i> of them is entirely at odds with the spirit of Beckett&#8217;s own use, of course.</p>

	<p>I know Henry doesn&#8217;t refer to this as a misquotation, but it follows on his reference to Mark&#8217;s use of the word &#8220;misquotation,&#8221; when as far as I can tell he&#8217;s identified one misattribution (of the sort that&#8217;s cringe-inducing but common enough&#8212;attribution to a secondary source who herself didn&#8217;t think to footnote because of an assumption of shared cultural literacy) and one true statement that Mark thinks is being given an unwarrantedly sinister cast (that Marshall was Keynes&#8217; teacher), and no misquotation.</p>

	<p>Mark doesn&#8217;t say he&#8217;d identified misquotations, either&#8212;he compares her to the misquoting Otto.  But&#8212;game of telephone&#8212;Henry characterizes Mark as having caught her in misquotations.</p>
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		<title>By: Ginger Yellow</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/05/04/happy-days/comment-page-1/#comment-70444</link>
		<dc:creator>Ginger Yellow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2005 16:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course Godot is funny. It&#039;s never even occurred to me that anyone might not think so. There&#039;s great humour in almost all his plays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Of course Godot is funny. It&#8217;s never even occurred to me that anyone might not think so. There&#8217;s great humour in almost all his plays.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Doyle</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/05/04/happy-days/comment-page-1/#comment-70442</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy Doyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2005 16:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bloody hell. Coming soon: The Little Book of Beckett; Kafka is from Mars, Beckett is from Venus etc etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Bloody hell. Coming soon: The Little Book of Beckett; Kafka is from Mars, Beckett is from Venus etc etc</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/05/04/happy-days/comment-page-1/#comment-70438</link>
		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2005 16:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;est elle dans la poubelle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>C&#8217;est elle dans la poubelle.</p>
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