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	<title>Comments on: Koran Abuse Redux</title>
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	<description>Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made</description>
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		<title>By: jlsb</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/03/koran-abuse-redux/comment-page-3/#comment-74359</link>
		<dc:creator>jlsb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, always back to the ad hominem.

Signed,

Exasperated but not suprised</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ah, always back to the ad hominem.</p>

	<p>Signed,</p>

	<p>Exasperated but not suprised</p>
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		<title>By: engels</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/03/koran-abuse-redux/comment-page-3/#comment-74209</link>
		<dc:creator>engels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2005 02:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the term is &quot;exasperation&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I think the term is &#8220;exasperation&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/03/koran-abuse-redux/comment-page-3/#comment-74208</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2005 01:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the above incoherence drugs or mental illness?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Is the above incoherence drugs or mental illness?</p>
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		<title>By: jlsb</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/03/koran-abuse-redux/comment-page-3/#comment-74145</link>
		<dc:creator>jlsb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This disingenuous high school debate team bad faith strategy is effective only if you get behind the table with them.  The only judges are the clocks which indicate how much of your time has been lost when they declare &quot;victory&quot; after having been refuted on every point other than &quot;the left wants to hold the American military to the same standards as it holds Israel.&quot;

Which, of course, is true.

But whatever. If you had simply started out talking about what you now say that you started out talking about in the way that you now talk about it, I would have passed over your comment without comment – or even notice.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This disingenuous high school debate team bad faith strategy is effective only if you get behind the table with them.  The only judges are the clocks which indicate how much of your time has been lost when they declare &#8220;victory&#8221; after having been refuted on every point other than &#8220;the left wants to hold the American military to the same standards as it holds Israel.&#8221;</p>

	<p>Which, of course, is true.</p>

	<p>But whatever. If you had simply started out talking about what you now say that you started out talking about in the way that you now talk about it, I would have passed over your comment without comment &#8211; or even notice.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/03/koran-abuse-redux/comment-page-3/#comment-74075</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 14:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or, of course, that the GOP is dedicated to the service of power and wealth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Or, of course, that the <span class="caps">GOP</span> is dedicated to the service of power and wealth.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/03/koran-abuse-redux/comment-page-3/#comment-74071</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 13:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Things are hopeless, Rove will win, and the moderates and libertarians will suck their fingers and watch.&quot;

Before Rove, the left blamed the infinite guile and cunning of Lee Atwater for the Democratic losing streak. When Lucifer, in this view, decided he had other work for Atwater he chose Rove. The alternative that the Republicans have better ideas and people (or at least more electable) doesn&#039;t occur to the left. Or it does, it is swiftly relegated to the status of nightmare that must not, cannot be true. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Things are hopeless, Rove will win, and the moderates and libertarians will suck their fingers and watch.&#8221;</p>

	<p>Before Rove, the left blamed the infinite guile and cunning of Lee Atwater for the Democratic losing streak. When Lucifer, in this view, decided he had other work for Atwater he chose Rove. The alternative that the Republicans have better ideas and people (or at least more electable) doesn&#8217;t occur to the left. Or it does, it is swiftly relegated to the status of nightmare that must not, cannot be true.</p>
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		<title>By: radek</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/03/koran-abuse-redux/comment-page-3/#comment-74061</link>
		<dc:creator>radek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 13:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zizka/JE:

&quot;Gee, radek, is that your way of showing you’re not a troll?&quot;

What&#039;s the point when it was pre-announced that any disagreement is going to be automatically taken as trolling? Why waste my time?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Zizka/JE:</p>

	<p>&#8220;Gee, radek, is that your way of showing you&#8217;re not a troll?&#8221;</p>

	<p>What&#8217;s the point when it was pre-announced that any disagreement is going to be automatically taken as trolling? Why waste my time?</p>
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		<title>By: RSL</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/03/koran-abuse-redux/comment-page-3/#comment-74054</link>
		<dc:creator>RSL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One question: are throwing water balloons at prisoners acceptable under the Guantanamo rules Bush keeps talking about?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>One question: are throwing water balloons at prisoners acceptable under the Guantanamo rules Bush keeps talking about?</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/03/koran-abuse-redux/comment-page-3/#comment-74050</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ignoring and excusion? Both are found in your silence on these subjects in the elbowing rush to get to the front of the America bashers, Mr. or Ms And I voted for Bush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The ignoring and excusion? Both are found in your silence on these subjects in the elbowing rush to get to the front of the America bashers, Mr. or Ms And I voted for Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: moni</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/03/koran-abuse-redux/comment-page-3/#comment-74049</link>
		<dc:creator>moni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;sawing off heads with dull blades as the victims squeals and the video rolls are ignored or excused as a valid expression of another culture we must understand&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, indeed, it&#039;s so shocking that there&#039;s such a massive amount of people willing to excuse or justify hostage decapitations on grounds of respect for different cultures...

... but wait, where&#039;s all this ignoring and excusing? Could it be, shock horror, a ridiculous straw man? Could it be that those identifying crimes with a whole culture are those setting up that very straw man? No, no one can be that stupid...

&lt;i&gt;...plus he made me laugh. And I voted for Bush!&lt;/i&gt;

Correction...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>sawing off heads with dull blades as the victims squeals and the video rolls are ignored or excused as a valid expression of another culture we must understand</i></p>

	<p>Yes, indeed, it&#8217;s so shocking that there&#8217;s such a massive amount of people willing to excuse or justify hostage decapitations on grounds of respect for different cultures&#8230;</p>

	<p>&#8230; but wait, where&#8217;s all this ignoring and excusing? Could it be, shock horror, a ridiculous straw man? Could it be that those identifying crimes with a whole culture are those setting up that very straw man? No, no one can be that stupid&#8230;</p>

	<p><i>&#8230;plus he made me laugh. And I voted for Bush!</i></p>

	<p>Correction&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/03/koran-abuse-redux/comment-page-3/#comment-74048</link>
		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...I see that Bush is a puppet for an “insidious group of people bent on world domination”&lt;/i&gt;

What, he&#039;s not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>&#8230;I see that Bush is a puppet for an &#8220;insidious group of people bent on world domination&#8221;</i></p>

	<p>What, he&#8217;s not?</p>
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		<title>By: mp</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/03/koran-abuse-redux/comment-page-3/#comment-74046</link>
		<dc:creator>mp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 09:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In breaking news a collective of RW bloggers and columnists has taken out a full-page apology to Newsweek, given they turned out to be correct in substance, if not precise detail...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>In breaking news a collective of RW bloggers and columnists has taken out a full-page apology to Newsweek, given they turned out to be correct in substance, if not precise detail&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Emerson</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/03/koran-abuse-redux/comment-page-3/#comment-74041</link>
		<dc:creator>John Emerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 02:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYT Jerry.

Hey, I&#039;m sorry I fell off the wagon. Y&#039;all can see I have a weakness for this kind of shit. Things are hopeless, Rove will win, and the moderates and libertarians will suck their fingers and watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><span class="caps">FYT </span>Jerry.</p>

	<p>Hey, I&#8217;m sorry I fell off the wagon. Y&#8217;all can see I have a weakness for this kind of shit. Things are hopeless, Rove will win, and the moderates and libertarians will suck their fingers and watch.</p>
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		<title>By: jet</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/03/koran-abuse-redux/comment-page-2/#comment-74040</link>
		<dc:creator>jet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 02:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Emerson,
You have to be kidding about LGF and DU?  If you don&#039;t they they are two sides to the same coin you obviously haven&#039;t ever visited.  Just from casually making sure nothings changed, I see that Bush is a puppet for an &quot;insidious group of people bent on world domination&quot; and on the flip side, I see that Amnesty International indirectly supports the epidemic of rape in the Darfur region of Sudan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>John Emerson,<br />
You have to be kidding about <span class="caps">LGF</span> and DU?  If you don&#8217;t they they are two sides to the same coin you obviously haven&#8217;t ever visited.  Just from casually making sure nothings changed, I see that Bush is a puppet for an &#8220;insidious group of people bent on world domination&#8221; and on the flip side, I see that Amnesty International indirectly supports the epidemic of rape in the Darfur region of Sudan.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/03/koran-abuse-redux/comment-page-2/#comment-74039</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 02:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The left wants to hold the American military to the same standards as it holds Israel. The smallest mistakes are blown up to derigible size in order to emphasize what a rotten society we have while sawing off heads with dull blades as the victims squeals and the video rolls are ignored or excused as a valid expression of another culture we must understand. Fuck that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The left wants to hold the American military to the same standards as it holds Israel. The smallest mistakes are blown up to derigible size in order to emphasize what a rotten society we have while sawing off heads with dull blades as the victims squeals and the video rolls are ignored or excused as a valid expression of another culture we must understand. Fuck that.</p>
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