Comments on: A queer pink light emanating from the darkness http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/10/a-queer-pink-light-emanating-from-the-darkness/ Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:56:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Uncle Kvetch http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/10/a-queer-pink-light-emanating-from-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-74941 Uncle Kvetch Sun, 12 Jun 2005 15:53:46 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/10/a-queer-pink-light-emanating-from-the-darkness/#comment-74941 <i>Uncle, is that the case or is that what you hear in a rather self-reinforcing circle of like minded individuals?</i> I never thought of it that way before, RY. I now see that Rick Santorum isn't actually a US Senator, but rather a figment of my overheated imagination. Thanks for clearing that up. Uncle, is that the case or is that what you hear in a rather self-reinforcing circle of like minded individuals?

I never thought of it that way before, RY. I now see that Rick Santorum isn’t actually a US Senator, but rather a figment of my overheated imagination. Thanks for clearing that up.

]]> By: Jack http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/10/a-queer-pink-light-emanating-from-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-74932 Jack Sun, 12 Jun 2005 07:40:17 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/10/a-queer-pink-light-emanating-from-the-darkness/#comment-74932 Ry, I think you are jumping the gun. Read the piece and say what you feel then. You'll find out who are supposed to be bewitched cultists in the post. I'd like to know what you think of the quote to which the piece is a response. I think it is a good target for your reasonable concerns about the cheapening of rhetoric. billings, surely you ought to be funny? Ry, I think you are jumping the gun. Read the piece and say what you feel then. You’ll find out who are supposed to be bewitched cultists in the post.

I’d like to know what you think of the quote to which the piece is a response. I think it is a good target for your reasonable concerns about the cheapening of rhetoric.

billings, surely you ought to be funny?

]]> By: Billings http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/10/a-queer-pink-light-emanating-from-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-74919 Billings Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:54:47 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/10/a-queer-pink-light-emanating-from-the-darkness/#comment-74919 Oh, I didn't pick up on the self pity. I understand now. Oh, I didn’t pick up on the self pity. I understand now.

]]> By: ry http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/10/a-queer-pink-light-emanating-from-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-74918 ry Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:30:19 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/10/a-queer-pink-light-emanating-from-the-darkness/#comment-74918 Uncle, is that the case or is that what you hear in a rather self-reinforcing circle of like minded individuals? So what if people don't like what you do and why does that immediately lead to robbing one of their humanity and citizenship? YOu cannot vote Uncle? There aren't laws that protect you from work place/housing discrimination? How is that any less a level of protection that I as a hetero male get? It definately crosses the line in that it is part and parcel of the trend that defines 'evil' down. Anything we don't like immediately gets compared and likened to the greatest evils of human history(Holocaust, Fascism, Salem Witch Trials, The Terror of the French Rev, etc). It furthers the demonization, the robbing of opponents of anything remotely human, in the hopes of seizing 'moral high ground'. Essentially this 'satire' makes the point that everyone who was born or grew up in a region is a 'rethuglican' or 'theocon' simply for having been born there(isn't that rather a sign of bigotry? Or is it okay to be a bigot for the 'right causes'?). Like I said afore: if you can get past these rather LARGE elements it's a funny bit. But it IS a great example of the level of discourse nowdays('You're an evil slumbich.' "No, you're an evil slumbich." "No, you're an evil slumbich." ad infinitum). Uncle, is that the case or is that what you hear in a rather self-reinforcing circle of like minded individuals?
So what if people don’t like what you do and why does that immediately lead to robbing one of their humanity and citizenship? YOu cannot vote Uncle? There aren’t laws that protect you from work place/housing discrimination? How is that any less a level of protection that I as a hetero male get?
It definately crosses the line in that it is part and parcel of the trend that defines ‘evil’ down. Anything we don’t like immediately gets compared and likened to the greatest evils of human history(Holocaust, Fascism, Salem Witch Trials, The Terror of the French Rev, etc). It furthers the demonization, the robbing of opponents of anything remotely human, in the hopes of seizing ‘moral high ground’.
Essentially this ‘satire’ makes the point that everyone who was born or grew up in a region is a ‘rethuglican’ or ‘theocon’ simply for having been born there(isn’t that rather a sign of bigotry? Or is it okay to be a bigot for the ‘right causes’?).
Like I said afore: if you can get past these rather LARGE elements it’s a funny bit. But it IS a great example of the level of discourse nowdays(‘You’re an evil slumbich.’ “No, you’re an evil slumbich.” “No, you’re an evil slumbich.” ad infinitum).

]]> By: Winston Smith http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/10/a-queer-pink-light-emanating-from-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-74909 Winston Smith Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:12:25 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/10/a-queer-pink-light-emanating-from-the-darkness/#comment-74909 Oh, look, it's gotta be satire (satyre?). 'Course, it says something about the state of the debate that it's not immediately clear whether it is or not... Oh, look, it’s gotta be satire (satyre?). ‘Course, it says something about the state of the debate that it’s not immediately clear whether it is or not…

]]> By: Uncle Kvetch http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/10/a-queer-pink-light-emanating-from-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-74905 Uncle Kvetch Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:46:29 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/10/a-queer-pink-light-emanating-from-the-darkness/#comment-74905 <i>Plus: oh yes, look at those who disagree as H.P. Lovecraft abominations lurking in the dark.</i> RY, I thought the whole point was that "those who disagree" most certainly regard <i>me,</i> by virtue of the fact that I love someone of my own gender, as little more than an abomination in the dark--definitely not as a fully fledged citizen deserving equal rights and protections under the law. And they want public policy to reflect that view. Given these facts, I hardly think any line was crossed here. Plus: oh yes, look at those who disagree as H.P. Lovecraft abominations lurking in the dark.

RY, I thought the whole point was that “those who disagree” most certainly regard me, by virtue of the fact that I love someone of my own gender, as little more than an abomination in the dark—definitely not as a fully fledged citizen deserving equal rights and protections under the law. And they want public policy to reflect that view. Given these facts, I hardly think any line was crossed here.

]]> By: Barry http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/10/a-queer-pink-light-emanating-from-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-74904 Barry Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:24:34 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/10/a-queer-pink-light-emanating-from-the-darkness/#comment-74904 ry, The article asserts that view to Republicans. And considering the remarks and laws emanating from their leadership, that's a fair view. ry,

The article asserts that view to Republicans. And considering the remarks and laws emanating from their leadership, that’s a fair view.

]]> By: moni http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/10/a-queer-pink-light-emanating-from-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-74902 moni Sat, 11 Jun 2005 10:33:38 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/10/a-queer-pink-light-emanating-from-the-darkness/#comment-74902 I'm thick and confused... It is satire, isn't it? Please someone answer in earnest :) I’m thick and confused… It is satire, isn’t it?

Please someone answer in earnest :)

]]> By: ry http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/10/a-queer-pink-light-emanating-from-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-74897 ry Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:02:38 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/10/a-queer-pink-light-emanating-from-the-darkness/#comment-74897 It would've been interesting, except that I grew up in Orange County(behind the Orange Curtain as those raised in Berkeley used to tell me), did sex ed there, and let me tell you we didn't just do abstinance education in high school. That set the screed alarm off(real buzzkill if you're trying to enjoy a piece of fiction). Plus: oh yes, look at those who disagree as H.P. Lovecraft abominations lurking in the dark. How deep. How enlightened. Sigh. Good chuckle if you can get past the screed-ness(and I might have too if it wasn't for the OC bit). It would’ve been interesting, except that I grew up in Orange County(behind the Orange Curtain as those raised in Berkeley used to tell me), did sex ed there, and let me tell you we didn’t just do abstinance education in high school. That set the screed alarm off(real buzzkill if you’re trying to enjoy a piece of fiction).
Plus: oh yes, look at those who disagree as H.P. Lovecraft abominations lurking in the dark. How deep. How enlightened. Sigh.
Good chuckle if you can get past the screed-ness(and I might have too if it wasn’t for the OC bit).

]]> By: bigd504 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/10/a-queer-pink-light-emanating-from-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-74890 bigd504 Sat, 11 Jun 2005 03:58:31 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/10/a-queer-pink-light-emanating-from-the-darkness/#comment-74890 Is the award for Elder Tentacled Abomination presented with a flaming hot pink star on a puce ribbon? Is the award for Elder Tentacled Abomination presented with a flaming hot pink star on a puce ribbon?

]]> By: Billings http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/10/a-queer-pink-light-emanating-from-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-74887 Billings Sat, 11 Jun 2005 03:49:05 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/10/a-queer-pink-light-emanating-from-the-darkness/#comment-74887 But. . .but . . . isn't satire supposed to be funny? But. . .but . . . isn’t satire supposed to be funny?

]]> By: bi http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/10/a-queer-pink-light-emanating-from-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-74847 bi Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:10:55 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/10/a-queer-pink-light-emanating-from-the-darkness/#comment-74847 About the _other_ Matthew, <a href="http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=2955" rel="nofollow">here's another nice piece of, um, fiction</a>. About the other Matthew, here’s another nice piece of, um, fiction.

]]> By: Barry http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/10/a-queer-pink-light-emanating-from-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-74845 Barry Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:50:11 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2005/06/10/a-queer-pink-light-emanating-from-the-darkness/#comment-74845 That was very nice. Was it unaltered from the original? That was very nice. Was it unaltered from the original?

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