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		<title>By: Chris Corrigan</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/09/06/headingly-1981-oval-2005/comment-page-1/#comment-97303</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Corrigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 17:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dsquared...your pun on the &quot;much overlooked&quot; daisycutter had me spitting my tea this morning.  My monitor is now clean.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>dsquared&#8230;your pun on the &#8220;much overlooked&#8221; daisycutter had me spitting my tea this morning.  My monitor is now clean.  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Corrigan</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/09/06/headingly-1981-oval-2005/comment-page-1/#comment-97300</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Corrigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 17:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vish and Tom...2001 was outstanding for the turnaround and the fact that Aus hadn&#039;t lost a Test match in 15 straight or so until Laxman pounded away their hopes and Harbhajan Singh took his hattrick (don&#039;t forget that!).

Having said that THIS series has been five games, all of which mattered and the last three of which have been as nailbiting as you can get from Test cricket.  If the rain holds off, the prospects of England playing for a draw seem intriguing.  

(And all of this I gladley put above even the various ties of the Proteas in World Cup play.  Two tournaments in a row they tie a match and drop out...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Vish and Tom&#8230;2001 was outstanding for the turnaround and the fact that Aus hadn&#8217;t lost a Test match in 15 straight or so until Laxman pounded away their hopes and Harbhajan Singh took his hattrick (don&#8217;t forget that!).</p>

	<p>Having said that <span class="caps">THIS</span> series has been five games, all of which mattered and the last three of which have been as nailbiting as you can get from Test cricket.  If the rain holds off, the prospects of England playing for a draw seem intriguing.</p>

	<p>(And all of this I gladley put above even the various ties of the Proteas in World Cup play.  Two tournaments in a row they tie a match and drop out&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: dsquared</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/09/06/headingly-1981-oval-2005/comment-page-1/#comment-97220</link>
		<dc:creator>dsquared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 10:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With England winning the toss, batting and now at 78-0 I will see my earlier prayer for rain and raise by suggesting to Michael Vaughan that the under-arm daisy cutter is a much overlooked addition to the bowling arsenal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>With England winning the toss, batting and now at 78-0 I will see my earlier prayer for rain and raise by suggesting to Michael Vaughan that the under-arm daisy cutter is a much overlooked addition to the bowling arsenal.</p>
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		<title>By: plebian</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/09/06/headingly-1981-oval-2005/comment-page-1/#comment-97219</link>
		<dc:creator>plebian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 10:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but the chances of Lillian Marsh throwing an Ashes game for a joke bet are next to zero.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yeah, but the chances of Lillian Marsh throwing an Ashes game for a joke bet are next to zero.</p>
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		<title>By: Offshore Pundit</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/09/06/headingly-1981-oval-2005/comment-page-1/#comment-97079</link>
		<dc:creator>Offshore Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 23:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;Don’t know about Lillee’s action (I don’t remember any questions at the time), but Marsh had every right to chuck, especially if he was standing back.&lt;/i&gt;&quot; - I meant &quot;chuck&quot; in the sense of throwing the game. It&#039;s a play on words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;<i>Don&#8217;t know about Lillee&#8217;s action (I don&#8217;t remember any questions at the time), but Marsh had every right to chuck, especially if he was standing back.</i>&#8221; &#8211; I meant &#8220;chuck&#8221; in the sense of throwing the game. It&#8217;s a play on words.</p>
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		<title>By: rachel</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/09/06/headingly-1981-oval-2005/comment-page-1/#comment-96937</link>
		<dc:creator>rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Truning&#039; is one of those weird cricket things, like googlies, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8216;Truning&#8217; is one of those weird cricket things, like googlies, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Eleanor</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/09/06/headingly-1981-oval-2005/comment-page-1/#comment-96899</link>
		<dc:creator>Eleanor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, Tom. And it&#039;s so great to see everyone getting enthused about it -- that is to say, that we&#039;ve once again got a side that&#039;s really worth enthusing about. This series has been so enjoyable that I almost don&#039;t care who wins. (NB &quot;almost&quot;.) Now, if we can just get the next four years&#039; terrestrial TV rights back...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I agree, Tom. And it&#8217;s so great to see everyone getting enthused about it&#8212;that is to say, that we&#8217;ve once again got a side that&#8217;s really worth enthusing about. This series has been so enjoyable that I almost don&#8217;t care who wins. (NB &#8220;almost&#8221;.) Now, if we can just get the next four years&#8217; terrestrial TV rights back&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tom lynch</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom lynch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 12:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This series has been more thrilling than India 2001, for my money.  The matches have been closer, and gone down to the last day.  

Taking nothing away from Laxman&#039;s innings - I clearly remember cursing him in disbelief at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This series has been more thrilling than India 2001, for my money.  The matches have been closer, and gone down to the last day.</p>

	<p>Taking nothing away from Laxman&#8217;s innings &#8211; I clearly remember cursing him in disbelief at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: chris y</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris y</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 10:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t know about Lillee&#039;s action (I don&#039;t remember any questions at the time), but Marsh had every right to chuck, especially if he was standing back.

Best series? how long is living memory? West Indies in England, 1963, will do me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Don&#8217;t know about Lillee&#8217;s action (I don&#8217;t remember any questions at the time), but Marsh had every right to chuck, especially if he was standing back.</p>

	<p>Best series? how long is living memory? West Indies in England, 1963, will do me.</p>
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		<title>By: strewelpeter</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/09/06/headingly-1981-oval-2005/comment-page-1/#comment-96871</link>
		<dc:creator>strewelpeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 10:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have very fond memories of that series.

Growing up in Ireland, outside of some particular small social circles, in the 60&#039;s and 70&#039;s it was a complete aberration and even slightly dangerous to watch cricket at all. I had extra reason as my Father used to enjoy watching it on TV, I have memories of him sitting in on sunny Sunday afternoons with the blinds closed watching cricket through a ridiculously noisy signal. At that time anything that my Father liked was anathema to me so I was with the majority opinion that this game was some sort of incomprehensible, demented imperialist joke. 
Then I started working in a TV repair shop and it turned out that the guy I was working for was a cricket fanatic. Our normal routine was to do our bench work in the workshop in the mornings and do our house calls in the afternoons. When summer came around the routine changed for every second week and we were brought in early and all calls were to be finished by midday at which point we were locked into the workshop and the serious business of sitting down to watch the cricket began. My fellow apprentice was a diehard gaelic football fan from a distinguished footballing family, he resisted strongly and we hatched cunning plans to reorganise this forced leisure more into the kind of thing we were good at, which was more along the lines of driving around the countryside eyeing up girls, smoking joints, listening to the likes of Morrison, Dylan, the Clash and Costello and endlessly discussing the horses we were backing and the books we were reading, Midnights Children was a favourite as it and the music from then still remain.  Luckily for us our plans to get out and enjoy the sunshine were foiled, our boss was a complete psycho whose involvement in the religious groups Opus Dei gave him some strange sense of duty to educate us in the path of the righteous, which for him cricket was a essential part of. Lucky also that this was 1981 and Brearly, Botham, Willis and Co. treated us to one of the great sporting summers of all time. Lucky also that cricket was all I caught from my increasingly nutty boss and now I can look forward to this weekend when myself and my now elderly Father, still divided by the deep chasm of religion, will savour together the sport and the speculation, the tension and the rain, Warne&#039;s amazing spin and my attempts to spin some arbitrage out of  Betfair&#039;s markets.

 If you have got this far through my reminiscences you might want to know who I&#039;ll be supporting,  we will be neutral on the side of england, just like in the war :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I have very fond memories of that series.</p>

	<p>Growing up in Ireland, outside of some particular small social circles, in the 60&#8217;s and 70&#8217;s it was a complete aberration and even slightly dangerous to watch cricket at all. I had extra reason as my Father used to enjoy watching it on TV, I have memories of him sitting in on sunny Sunday afternoons with the blinds closed watching cricket through a ridiculously noisy signal. At that time anything that my Father liked was anathema to me so I was with the majority opinion that this game was some sort of incomprehensible, demented imperialist joke.<br />
Then I started working in a TV repair shop and it turned out that the guy I was working for was a cricket fanatic. Our normal routine was to do our bench work in the workshop in the mornings and do our house calls in the afternoons. When summer came around the routine changed for every second week and we were brought in early and all calls were to be finished by midday at which point we were locked into the workshop and the serious business of sitting down to watch the cricket began. My fellow apprentice was a diehard gaelic football fan from a distinguished footballing family, he resisted strongly and we hatched cunning plans to reorganise this forced leisure more into the kind of thing we were good at, which was more along the lines of driving around the countryside eyeing up girls, smoking joints, listening to the likes of Morrison, Dylan, the Clash and Costello and endlessly discussing the horses we were backing and the books we were reading, Midnights Children was a favourite as it and the music from then still remain.  Luckily for us our plans to get out and enjoy the sunshine were foiled, our boss was a complete psycho whose involvement in the religious groups Opus Dei gave him some strange sense of duty to educate us in the path of the righteous, which for him cricket was a essential part of. Lucky also that this was 1981 and Brearly, Botham, Willis and Co. treated us to one of the great sporting summers of all time. Lucky also that cricket was all I caught from my increasingly nutty boss and now I can look forward to this weekend when myself and my now elderly Father, still divided by the deep chasm of religion, will savour together the sport and the speculation, the tension and the rain, Warne&#8217;s amazing spin and my attempts to spin some arbitrage out of  Betfair&#8217;s markets.</p>

	<p>If you have got this far through my reminiscences you might want to know who I&#8217;ll be supporting,  we will be neutral on the side of england, just like in the war :)</p>
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		<title>By: John Isbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Isbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 05:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the memories. Botham at slip is how I picture him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thanks for the memories. Botham at slip is how I picture him.</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 04:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely remember Willis skittling the Aussies on the last day at Headingley, yes. But not the previous days, strangely. I was seven years old at the time. 

Anyway, another weekend of 5am starts for me. I don&#039;t mind losing terrestrial coverage, but if Sky tries to take away Test Match Special next time round, I may well have to take action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I definitely remember Willis skittling the Aussies on the last day at Headingley, yes. But not the previous days, strangely. I was seven years old at the time.</p>

	<p>Anyway, another weekend of 5am starts for me. I don&#8217;t mind losing terrestrial coverage, but if Sky tries to take away Test Match Special next time round, I may well have to take action.</p>
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		<title>By: derrida derider</title>
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		<dc:creator>derrida derider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 03:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with vish - that 2001 series in India was really something.  It was only made possible by pitches specially prepared for the home side, but that&#039;s OK - everybody does that these days (we gave the Indians greentops when they last visited Australia).  But really for aussies and poms the Ashes is always the series that really matters, even at times when either or neither team has been at top standard.

I still favour us to win this match, unless the bloody poms manage to specially prepare their weather for the home side, as dsquared is trying to do.  The English team have played to their best, whereas our lot have been below their usual standard for a lot of the time - they must come good soon.

But of course that&#039;s what I said before the last match.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I agree with vish &#8211; that 2001 series in India was really something.  It was only made possible by pitches specially prepared for the home side, but that&#8217;s <span class="caps">OK </span>- everybody does that these days (we gave the Indians greentops when they last visited Australia).  But really for aussies and poms the Ashes is always the series that really matters, even at times when either or neither team has been at top standard.</p>

	<p>I still favour us to win this match, unless the bloody poms manage to specially prepare their weather for the home side, as dsquared is trying to do.  The English team have played to their best, whereas our lot have been below their usual standard for a lot of the time &#8211; they must come good soon.</p>

	<p>But of course that&#8217;s what I said before the last match.</p>
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		<title>By: cs</title>
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		<dc:creator>cs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 00:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, to this day, whenever Australia face a chase, someone somewhere in my vicinity always says &quot;remember Headingly&quot;.

Go Warnie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ah, to this day, whenever Australia face a chase, someone somewhere in my vicinity always says &#8220;remember Headingly&#8221;.</p>

	<p>Go Warnie!</p>
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		<title>By: Offshore Pundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Offshore Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 23:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it time that we had something to say about those two Aussie &quot;white sox&quot;, Dennis Lillee and Rodney Marsh who should been called for chucking&quot;.

The loss at Headingly must up have upset them somewhat but the blow would have been softened somewhat because they had backed England at tea on the fourth day at 500-1. 

Lillee won £5,000, but said he spent it on a return trip and accommodation to the Gold Coast for the coach driver who placed the bet. 

The matter was never properly investigated by the spineless ACB and the pair were so &quot;loveable&quot; that the mejia and therefore the Australian public let them off.

But the fact of the matter is that the pair ratted on their team mates and Australian fans. Australia should never have lost that game but with two players clearly &quot;distracted&quot; they never had a chance.

In any event I cannot recall their &quot;runner&quot; ever having come forward. 

They should have been banned for life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Isn&#8217;t it time that we had something to say about those two Aussie &#8220;white sox&#8221;, Dennis Lillee and Rodney Marsh who should been called for chucking&#8221;.</p>

	<p>The loss at Headingly must up have upset them somewhat but the blow would have been softened somewhat because they had backed England at tea on the fourth day at 500-1.</p>

	<p>Lillee won &#163;5,000, but said he spent it on a return trip and accommodation to the Gold Coast for the coach driver who placed the bet.</p>

	<p>The matter was never properly investigated by the spineless <span class="caps">ACB</span> and the pair were so &#8220;loveable&#8221; that the mejia and therefore the Australian public let them off.</p>

	<p>But the fact of the matter is that the pair ratted on their team mates and Australian fans. Australia should never have lost that game but with two players clearly &#8220;distracted&#8221; they never had a chance.</p>

	<p>In any event I cannot recall their &#8220;runner&#8221; ever having come forward.</p>

	<p>They should have been banned for life.</p>
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