Comments on: And while we’re on the subject of Newspeak … http://crookedtimber.org/2005/10/28/and-while-were-on-the-subject-of-newspeak/ Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:56:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Grand Moff Texan http://crookedtimber.org/2005/10/28/and-while-were-on-the-subject-of-newspeak/comment-page-1/#comment-115837 Grand Moff Texan Sun, 30 Oct 2005 20:03:55 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=3993#comment-115837 At the very least, mq, liberals have an unabashed attachment to the need for a grasp of the basic facts as to make something like asg's fact-free post beyond the pale. Reliance on an inverse epistemology, like asg's, is the reason why the right hasn't developed much of an intellectual apparatus (chanting doesn't count): they haven't had to. With adherents like that, why would they need to? . At the very least, mq, liberals have an unabashed attachment to the need for a grasp of the basic facts as to make something like asg’s fact-free post beyond the pale.

Reliance on an inverse epistemology, like asg’s, is the reason why the right hasn’t developed much of an intellectual apparatus (chanting doesn’t count): they haven’t had to.

With adherents like that, why would they need to?
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]]> By: MQ http://crookedtimber.org/2005/10/28/and-while-were-on-the-subject-of-newspeak/comment-page-1/#comment-115833 MQ Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:39:43 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=3993#comment-115833 Sorry asg, in the U.S. liberals are just objectively more decent and more civilized in their behavior than conservatives are. If you don't understand that then you either haven't been paying attention or are deliberately fooling yourself. Sorry asg, in the U.S. liberals are just objectively more decent and more civilized in their behavior than conservatives are. If you don’t understand that then you either haven’t been paying attention or are deliberately fooling yourself.

]]> By: liberal http://crookedtimber.org/2005/10/28/and-while-were-on-the-subject-of-newspeak/comment-page-1/#comment-115826 liberal Sun, 30 Oct 2005 18:12:57 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=3993#comment-115826 Max Sawicky has a <a href="http://maxspeak.org/mt/archives/001719.html" rel="nofollow">better, more concrete list</a> of the Right's hypocrisy in this instance. Max Sawicky has a better, more concrete list of the Right’s hypocrisy in this instance.

]]> By: theogon http://crookedtimber.org/2005/10/28/and-while-were-on-the-subject-of-newspeak/comment-page-1/#comment-115817 theogon Sun, 30 Oct 2005 16:24:04 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=3993#comment-115817 Well <em>I</em> think that asg's post is a nigh-Platonic instance of the Iron Law of Right-... O, fuckit. Can't we all be honest and say that we're all just doing what we can for our causes? At least that grounds things in substantive policy concerns. Well I think that asg’s post is a nigh-Platonic instance of the Iron Law of Right-…

O, fuckit. Can’t we all be honest and say that we’re all just doing what we can for our causes? At least that grounds things in substantive policy concerns.

]]> By: asg http://crookedtimber.org/2005/10/28/and-while-were-on-the-subject-of-newspeak/comment-page-1/#comment-115694 asg Sun, 30 Oct 2005 10:54:16 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=3993#comment-115694 I think the Iron Law of Right-Wing Freudian Projection is a wonderful instance of left-wing projection. So very ironic! I think the Iron Law of Right-Wing Freudian Projection is a wonderful instance of left-wing projection. So very ironic!

]]> By: Adam Kotsko http://crookedtimber.org/2005/10/28/and-while-were-on-the-subject-of-newspeak/comment-page-1/#comment-115341 Adam Kotsko Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:52:12 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=3993#comment-115341 Have you seen the new Guiness ad? Have you seen the new Guiness ad?

]]> By: The Politburo Diktat » Blog Archive » The Muted Gloating of the Left http://crookedtimber.org/2005/10/28/and-while-were-on-the-subject-of-newspeak/comment-page-1/#comment-115330 The Politburo Diktat » Blog Archive » The Muted Gloating of the Left Sat, 29 Oct 2005 04:20:53 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=3993#comment-115330 [...] Armando at Kos: “We Know Who Outed Plame … Paragraph 17 of the Indictment describes … Paragraph 21 of the Indictment describes … Paragraph 23 of the Indictment describes … Paragraph 24 of the Indictment describes … So who outed Valerie Plame? Libby and Rove. Is that too hard to understand?” Crooked Timber: Hugh Hewitt’s editorial in the NY Times. [...] [...] Armando at Kos: “We Know Who Outed Plame … Paragraph 17 of the Indictment describes … Paragraph 21 of the Indictment describes … Paragraph 23 of the Indictment describes … Paragraph 24 of the Indictment describes … So who outed Valerie Plame? Libby and Rove. Is that too hard to understand?” Crooked Timber: Hugh Hewitt’s editorial in the NY Times. [...]

]]> By: Delicious Pundit http://crookedtimber.org/2005/10/28/and-while-were-on-the-subject-of-newspeak/comment-page-1/#comment-115328 Delicious Pundit Sat, 29 Oct 2005 02:49:43 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=3993#comment-115328 Harder to denounce, but not impossible. I mean, that's what he's paid for, right? Harder to denounce, but not impossible. I mean, that’s what he’s paid for, right?

]]> By: Barry http://crookedtimber.org/2005/10/28/and-while-were-on-the-subject-of-newspeak/comment-page-1/#comment-115322 Barry Sat, 29 Oct 2005 00:52:28 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=3993#comment-115322 Ya know, generally in the social sciences, there aren't a lot of really strong laws - unlike in the physical sciences. There's only one real strong law of the social sciences, which I, personally, discovered (I would appreciate a nomination to the Nobel committee, BTW): Barry's Iron Law of Right-Wing Freudian Projection: "It is physically impossible for a right-winger to accuse the left of anything that the right hasn't already done ten times as much." Ya know, generally in the social sciences, there aren’t a lot of really strong laws – unlike in the physical sciences.

There’s only one real strong law of the social sciences, which I, personally, discovered (I would appreciate a nomination to the Nobel committee, BTW):

Barry’s Iron Law of Right-Wing Freudian Projection:

“It is physically impossible for a right-winger to accuse the left of anything that the right hasn’t already done ten times as much.”

]]> By: Seth Finkelstein http://crookedtimber.org/2005/10/28/and-while-were-on-the-subject-of-newspeak/comment-page-1/#comment-115320 Seth Finkelstein Sat, 29 Oct 2005 00:37:03 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=3993#comment-115320 "He has reached Platonic shilldom." -- Kevin Drum http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2005_10/007446.php “He has reached Platonic shilldom.”—Kevin Drum

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2005_10/007446.php

]]> By: neil http://crookedtimber.org/2005/10/28/and-while-were-on-the-subject-of-newspeak/comment-page-1/#comment-115315 neil Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:09:45 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=3993#comment-115315 The main tactic previously exclusive to the Left that was embraced by the Right in the Miers nomination, it appears, is disagreeing with Hugh Hewitt. The main tactic previously exclusive to the Left that was embraced by the Right in the Miers nomination, it appears, is disagreeing with Hugh Hewitt.

]]> By: Shelby http://crookedtimber.org/2005/10/28/and-while-were-on-the-subject-of-newspeak/comment-page-1/#comment-115311 Shelby Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:16:46 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=3993#comment-115311 <i>or is Hugh Hewitt an analytical construct pretending to be a blogger</i> That's much funnier than anything in Hugh's piece! or is Hugh Hewitt an analytical construct pretending to be a blogger

That’s much funnier than anything in Hugh’s piece!

]]> By: Dan Nexon http://crookedtimber.org/2005/10/28/and-while-were-on-the-subject-of-newspeak/comment-page-1/#comment-115306 Dan Nexon Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:33:49 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=3993#comment-115306 Is it logically possible for "ideal types" (e.g., an "ideal-typical hack") to exist, or is Hugh Hewitt an analytical construct pretending to be a blogger? Is it logically possible for “ideal types” (e.g., an “ideal-typical hack”) to exist, or is Hugh Hewitt an analytical construct pretending to be a blogger?

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