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		<title>By: coturnix</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/11/23/printing-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-125130</link>
		<dc:creator>coturnix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 02:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I am going with Lulu for a number of reasons:
a - they are in town if I have to go personally to do anything and they have people who can help
b - my neighbor is a blogger who recently published a book with them.  He is very satisfied and has promised to help me with formatting
c - They send a preformatted Word file - you copy and paste and send back.  In two days, you get the book.
d - I cannot print the whole blog.  I have been copying and pasting GOOD posts all along so I have an MSWord file in chronological (as opposed to blog-standard reverse chronological order).  When I first heard about this, I looked at the file and it was, dunno, 800 pages or so.  And that&#039;s just the chosen &quot;Best of&quot; posts.  No memes, cartoons, one-liners, linkfests or carnivals included.  By changing the font, reformatting paragraphs, eliminating several mediocre posts, cutting out all the superfluous stuff (unfortunately, that means cutting away lots of links), I got it down to about 450 pages and I am still working on it.  Thus, I have to work with a file, copying and pasting to begin with, so that is not a negative for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well, I am going with Lulu for a number of reasons:<br />
a &#8211; they are in town if I have to go personally to do anything and they have people who can help<br />
b &#8211; my neighbor is a blogger who recently published a book with them.  He is very satisfied and has promised to help me with formatting<br />
c &#8211; They send a preformatted Word file &#8211; you copy and paste and send back.  In two days, you get the book.<br />
d &#8211; I cannot print the whole blog.  I have been copying and pasting <span class="caps">GOOD</span> posts all along so I have an MSWord file in chronological (as opposed to blog-standard reverse chronological order).  When I first heard about this, I looked at the file and it was, dunno, 800 pages or so.  And that&#8217;s just the chosen &#8220;Best of&#8221; posts.  No memes, cartoons, one-liners, linkfests or carnivals included.  By changing the font, reformatting paragraphs, eliminating several mediocre posts, cutting out all the superfluous stuff (unfortunately, that means cutting away lots of links), I got it down to about 450 pages and I am still working on it.  Thus, I have to work with a file, copying and pasting to begin with, so that is not a negative for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Ehud</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/11/23/printing-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-124777</link>
		<dc:creator>Ehud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2005 15:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does any of these solutions work for non English blogs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Does any of these solutions work for non English blogs?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/11/23/printing-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-124739</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 19:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eszter -
Thank you for the comments
-	photo ordering choices coming soon
-	Cover options coming soon
-	And thank you for looking at our blogprinting beta and commenting

- Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Eszter &#8211; Thank you for the comments<br />
-photo ordering choices coming soon<br />
-Cover options coming soon<br />
-And thank you for looking at our blogprinting beta and commenting</p>
 &#8211; Bill
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		<title>By: yabonn</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/11/23/printing-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-124737</link>
		<dc:creator>yabonn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 19:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Blook&quot;.

The horror. The horror.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Blook&#8221;.</p>

	<p>The horror. The horror.</p>
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		<title>By: Eszter</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/11/23/printing-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-124719</link>
		<dc:creator>Eszter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 15:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill, thanks. My Qoop book was shipped on Oct 19th. As I said, I loved the cover (as did my Mom who got it as a gift).  And to be sure, the service was very easy to use and quick.  I just wasn&#039;t sure if &quot;book&quot; was the right word for it.

While I have your attention:) I thought I&#039;d mention a couple of things that I think would be helpful tweaks to that service.  

First, if I recall, it was not possible to specify the order of the pictures. I recall redoing the entire book after having rearranged the sets in my Flickr account just so some of the pictures I wanted at the end would be at the end.  I was able to adjust the set ordering this way, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s possible to specify the order of the photos individually, is it?

Second, I don&#039;t recall having any say in what photos show up on the cover.  I liked the random selection this time, but I think I would prefer to have some say over that.

And thanks for putting me in touch with the BlogPrinting folks!

Coturnix - Lulu seems like a great service for creating products from various types of content, but I don&#039;t recall seeing any quick method for converting blog posts into a book format.  (I am not going to sit and copy/paste all posts.  I am looking for an automated method. What I&#039;ve been shown of the BlogPrinting beta seems extremely promising. It addresses that point very well.)

John - That is a funny coincidence. I suspect to some extent it may have to do with the upcoming holidays. Perhaps people are looking to make gifts.  In my case it&#039;s related to the end of the teaching quarter and a student&#039;s idea, as I noted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Bill, thanks. My Qoop book was shipped on Oct 19th. As I said, I loved the cover (as did my Mom who got it as a gift).  And to be sure, the service was very easy to use and quick.  I just wasn&#8217;t sure if &#8220;book&#8221; was the right word for it.</p>

	<p>While I have your attention:) I thought I&#8217;d mention a couple of things that I think would be helpful tweaks to that service.</p>

	<p>First, if I recall, it was not possible to specify the order of the pictures. I recall redoing the entire book after having rearranged the sets in my Flickr account just so some of the pictures I wanted at the end would be at the end.  I was able to adjust the set ordering this way, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s possible to specify the order of the photos individually, is it?</p>

	<p>Second, I don&#8217;t recall having any say in what photos show up on the cover.  I liked the random selection this time, but I think I would prefer to have some say over that.</p>

	<p>And thanks for putting me in touch with the BlogPrinting folks!</p>

	<p>Coturnix &#8211; Lulu seems like a great service for creating products from various types of content, but I don&#8217;t recall seeing any quick method for converting blog posts into a book format.  (I am not going to sit and copy/paste all posts.  I am looking for an automated method. What I&#8217;ve been shown of the BlogPrinting beta seems extremely promising. It addresses that point very well.)</p>

	<p>John &#8211; That is a funny coincidence. I suspect to some extent it may have to do with the upcoming holidays. Perhaps people are looking to make gifts.  In my case it&#8217;s related to the end of the teaching quarter and a student&#8217;s idea, as I noted.</p>
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		<title>By: John Holbo</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/11/23/printing-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-124598</link>
		<dc:creator>John Holbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s an amazing coincidence that you made this post, Eszter. Just today I was emailing someone with questions about this very issue and got sent to Qoop. Then I clicked over to CT ... and you could have answered my questions for me. To the extent that they have answers at this stage. Also, just two weeks ago I was at a meeting joking about &#039;blooks, blarticles and blessays.&#039; Something in the water causing everyone to think of certain print issues at once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It&#8217;s an amazing coincidence that you made this post, Eszter. Just today I was emailing someone with questions about this very issue and got sent to Qoop. Then I clicked over to <span class="caps">CT </span>&#8230; and you could have answered my questions for me. To the extent that they have answers at this stage. Also, just two weeks ago I was at a meeting joking about &#8216;blooks, blarticles and blessays.&#8217; Something in the water causing everyone to think of certain print issues at once.</p>
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		<title>By: godoggo</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/11/23/printing-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-124570</link>
		<dc:creator>godoggo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 07:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is almost 5 years out of date, but Hal dispensed a punch card when Dave asked him for a hard copy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I know this is almost 5 years out of date, but Hal dispensed a punch card when Dave asked him for a hard copy.</p>
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		<title>By: coturnix</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/11/23/printing-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-124568</link>
		<dc:creator>coturnix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 05:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I heard, Lulu.com is the best in terms of speed, price and quality.  And if you hurry up, you can enter your blog-turned-book for the Blooker Prize.  Hey, a $1000 is not nothing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>From what I heard, Lulu.com is the best in terms of speed, price and quality.  And if you hurry up, you can enter your blog-turned-book for the Blooker Prize.  Hey, a $1000 is not nothing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/11/23/printing-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-124448</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 00:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eszter -

When did you order a photo book?  We started using a new photo paper about a month ago that is very nice.

And our BlogPrinting.com makes very cool books - our lead on that project will contact you.

- Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Eszter &#8211;<br />
When did you order a photo book?  We started using a new photo paper about a month ago that is very nice.</p>

	<p>And our BlogPrinting.com makes very cool books &#8211; our lead on that project will contact you.</p>
 &#8211; Bill
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		<title>By: Reed A. Cartwright</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/11/23/printing-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-124427</link>
		<dc:creator>Reed A. Cartwright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2005 21:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I run Movable Type on my blog and a few months ago, I added a feature that automatically creates PDFs of my entries.

Using LaTeX one could take all the PDFs and combine them together in some book format.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I run Movable Type on my blog and a few months ago, I added a feature that automatically creates PDFs of my entries.</p>

	<p>Using LaTeX one could take all the PDFs and combine them together in some book format.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael H.</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/11/23/printing-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-124367</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2005 17:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I did not notice that you had linked to that post.

He later denied it was all that tedious. Anyway I assumed you were going to have your students do the work, it really wouldn&#039;t be that much trouble for them. They might learn something too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Sorry, I did not notice that you had linked to that post.</p>

	<p>He later denied it was all that tedious. Anyway I assumed you were going to have your students do the work, it really wouldn&#8217;t be that much trouble for them. They might learn something too.</p>
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		<title>By: Eszter</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/11/23/printing-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-124358</link>
		<dc:creator>Eszter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2005 16:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael - I link to that discussion in the post.

Kieran &amp; Chris - Thanks. Those sound like possibilities, but I&#039;m hoping for something simpler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Michael &#8211; I link to that discussion in the post.</p>

	<p>Kieran &#038; Chris &#8211; Thanks. Those sound like possibilities, but I&#8217;m hoping for something simpler.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Karr</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/11/23/printing-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-124357</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Karr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2005 16:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if any blog services or software do this, but a somewhat simple and flexible solution would be to generate a full-text RSS feed of each entry (and comments if desired), and use XSLT to FOP (http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/), then turn that into a PDF with the styling you want.

Granted, this feed would be huge (it&#039;s essentially a database dump), but you don&#039;t have to allow access to it. The feed would also be useful if you want to add your blog contents to search engines like A9 or Google Base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I don&#8217;t know if any blog services or software do this, but a somewhat simple and flexible solution would be to generate a full-text <span class="caps">RSS</span> feed of each entry (and comments if desired), and use <span class="caps">XSLT</span> to <span class="caps">FOP </span>(<a href="http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/" rel="nofollow">http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/</a>), then turn that into a <span class="caps">PDF</span> with the styling you want.</p>

	<p>Granted, this feed would be huge (it&#8217;s essentially a database dump), but you don&#8217;t have to allow access to it. The feed would also be useful if you want to add your blog contents to search engines like A9 or Google Base.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael H.</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/11/23/printing-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-124347</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2005 16:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warren Meyer of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2005/10/archiving_coyot.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Coyoteblog&lt;/a&gt; (a nice blog) recently wrote of his experiences publishing his blog as a gift for his dad (a nice idea). He used &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lulu.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;lulu&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Warren Meyer of <a href="http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2005/10/archiving_coyot.html" rel="nofollow">Coyoteblog</a> (a nice blog) recently wrote of his experiences publishing his blog as a gift for his dad (a nice idea). He used <a href="http://www.lulu.com/" rel="nofollow">lulu</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Kieran Healy</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/11/23/printing-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-124334</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieran Healy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a WordPress to PDF plugin that uses LaTeX as a formatting engine and (I think) understands textile formatting etc. I tried it once for CT and it worked pretty well, but I didn&#039;t pursue it. It&#039;s something you need to install on your server, though. &quot;Here&#039;s the Project Page&quot;:http://wp2pdf.sourceforge.net/ at sourceforge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>There&#8217;s a WordPress to <span class="caps">PDF</span> plugin that uses LaTeX as a formatting engine and (I think) understands textile formatting etc. I tried it once for CT and it worked pretty well, but I didn&#8217;t pursue it. It&#8217;s something you need to install on your server, though. <a href="<a" title="">Here&#8217;s the Project Page</a> href=&#8221;http://wp2pdf.sourceforge.net/&#8221; rel=&#8221;nofollow&#8221;>http://wp2pdf.sourceforge.net/ at sourceforge.</p>
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