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	<description>Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made</description>
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		<title>By: BroD</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/09/google-users-not-your-average-internet-users/comment-page-1/#comment-128403</link>
		<dc:creator>BroD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 01:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel a bit like the person described in a Atrios post who realized that folks without medical insurance didn&#039;t have access to standard medical care.   I mean, they don&#039;t Google?!  What DO the simple folk do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I feel a bit like the person described in a Atrios post who realized that folks without medical insurance didn&#8217;t have access to standard medical care.   I mean, they don&#8217;t Google?!  What DO the simple folk do?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Karr</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/09/google-users-not-your-average-internet-users/comment-page-1/#comment-127889</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Karr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 16:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hadn&#039;t seen many instances of people doing drawing the conclusion that Google users represent all users, so I probably read a bit more into your original post than intended.

Thanks for the clarification.

Regarding the question in your post above about new users switching to Google, I would bet that for pure keyword searches, we see a drop in Google&#039;s new adoption rate. Working against it are smaller and more tightly focused search engines and more less-skilled people buying computers with other keyword search engines preconfigured (MSN, Yahoo, Netscape, etc.) as the default. On the other hand, quite a few alternative browsers are shipping with embedded Google search widgets, Google is developing searches beyond keyword matching, and they&#039;re fielding a top-notch research and development team. There are so many variables that it&#039;ll be neat to see how it all plays out in the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I hadn&#8217;t seen many instances of people doing drawing the conclusion that Google users represent all users, so I probably read a bit more into your original post than intended.</p>

	<p>Thanks for the clarification.</p>

	<p>Regarding the question in your post above about new users switching to Google, I would bet that for pure keyword searches, we see a drop in Google&#8217;s new adoption rate. Working against it are smaller and more tightly focused search engines and more less-skilled people buying computers with other keyword search engines preconfigured (MSN, Yahoo, Netscape, etc.) as the default. On the other hand, quite a few alternative browsers are shipping with embedded Google search widgets, Google is developing searches beyond keyword matching, and they&#8217;re fielding a top-notch research and development team. There are so many variables that it&#8217;ll be neat to see how it all plays out in the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Eszter</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/09/google-users-not-your-average-internet-users/comment-page-1/#comment-127879</link>
		<dc:creator>Eszter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 15:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question you pose was not my motivating question nor did it seem to be a question of interest to you based on your first comment. (I didn&#039;t mention it in the post, it came up in response to your comment.)

The reason it is interesting to note that Google users are not average - the point of my entry and a point I mentioned in the post above - is because so many people draw conclusions about all Internet users based on the actions of Google users.  Yet this seems incorrect given that Google users are not representative of all Internet users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The question you pose was not my motivating question nor did it seem to be a question of interest to you based on your first comment. (I didn&#8217;t mention it in the post, it came up in response to your comment.)</p>

	<p>The reason it is interesting to note that Google users are not average &#8211; the point of my entry and a point I mentioned in the post above &#8211; is because so many people draw conclusions about all Internet users based on the actions of Google users.  Yet this seems incorrect given that Google users are not representative of all Internet users.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Karr</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/09/google-users-not-your-average-internet-users/comment-page-1/#comment-127868</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Karr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 15:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I guess depending on the particular search engine preference/use breakdown (whichever they used here to calculate their figures) it could be possible to find that users of one search engine actually do represent your average American.&lt;/i&gt;

I guess my question is that if you found one search engine whose users reflected the demographic traits of the average user, why is this interesting? Or in other words, let&#039;s assume that &quot;Ask Jeeves&quot;  users (whatever that may be) were closest to the average in terms of demographics. I don&#039;t see what it says other than the user demographics of &quot;Jeeves&quot; coincidentally match the computed demographic average. You could title this post &quot;Ask Jeeves users are your average Internet users&quot;, but I don&#039;t see how that would be useful more than as a bit of trivia if Jeeves users are only five percent of the search engine user base.

Maybe I&#039;m missing something here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>I guess depending on the particular search engine preference/use breakdown (whichever they used here to calculate their figures) it could be possible to find that users of one search engine actually do represent your average American.</i></p>

	<p>I guess my question is that if you found one search engine whose users reflected the demographic traits of the average user, why is this interesting? Or in other words, let&#8217;s assume that &#8220;Ask Jeeves&#8221;  users (whatever that may be) were closest to the average in terms of demographics. I don&#8217;t see what it says other than the user demographics of &#8220;Jeeves&#8221; coincidentally match the computed demographic average. You could title this post &#8220;Ask Jeeves users are your average Internet users&#8221;, but I don&#8217;t see how that would be useful more than as a bit of trivia if Jeeves users are only five percent of the search engine user base.</p>

	<p>Maybe I&#8217;m missing something here.</p>
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		<title>By: Eszter</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/09/google-users-not-your-average-internet-users/comment-page-1/#comment-127850</link>
		<dc:creator>Eszter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 14:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, the title is how I meant it.  Perhaps it requires some clarification to say &quot;Google users not your average Internet users in terms of their demographics&quot;, but that becomes a bit tedious.

Saying what you proposed wouldn&#039;t be very interesting given that Internet users, on average,  are not your average Americans either and we&#039;ve known that for over ten years.  I guess depending on the particular search engine preference/use breakdown (whichever they used here to calculate their figures) it could be possible to find that users of one search engine actually do represent your average American. That would require that a search engine appeal especially to lower income users to offset the higher income of the average Internet user (compared to the income of the average American household).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Chris, the title is how I meant it.  Perhaps it requires some clarification to say &#8220;Google users not your average Internet users in terms of their demographics&#8221;, but that becomes a bit tedious.</p>

	<p>Saying what you proposed wouldn&#8217;t be very interesting given that Internet users, on average,  are not your average Americans either and we&#8217;ve known that for over ten years.  I guess depending on the particular search engine preference/use breakdown (whichever they used here to calculate their figures) it could be possible to find that users of one search engine actually do represent your average American. That would require that a search engine appeal especially to lower income users to offset the higher income of the average Internet user (compared to the income of the average American household).</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Karr</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/09/google-users-not-your-average-internet-users/comment-page-1/#comment-127834</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Karr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 13:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A suggestion for a change in the title of this post:

&quot;Google users not your average US residents&quot;

If Google commands the majority of search market share among Internet users, wouldn&#039;t its users be more &quot;average&quot; than most other search engines among &quot;users&quot; on the basis of larger representation?

Since Google&#039;s users are not demographically similar to the average US resident, the suggested title above makes more sense, since presumably American Internet users are a subset of American residents. I don&#039;t think that it&#039;s too surprising that the higher incomes are better represented in the pool of users (and better represented among the pool of people who have been online longest), so I would suspect that most search engines&#039; average users would be in the higher-earning demographics than the regular population. 

Do we have any information on what the &quot;average user&quot; was in this study and how far Google and other search engines deviate from that average?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>A suggestion for a change in the title of this post:</p>

	<p>&#8220;Google users not your average US residents&#8221;</p>

	<p>If Google commands the majority of search market share among Internet users, wouldn&#8217;t its users be more &#8220;average&#8221; than most other search engines among &#8220;users&#8221; on the basis of larger representation?</p>

	<p>Since Google&#8217;s users are not demographically similar to the average US resident, the suggested title above makes more sense, since presumably American Internet users are a subset of American residents. I don&#8217;t think that it&#8217;s too surprising that the higher incomes are better represented in the pool of users (and better represented among the pool of people who have been online longest), so I would suspect that most search engines&#8217; average users would be in the higher-earning demographics than the regular population.</p>

	<p>Do we have any information on what the &#8220;average user&#8221; was in this study and how far Google and other search engines deviate from that average?</p>
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		<title>By: John Quiggin</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/09/google-users-not-your-average-internet-users/comment-page-1/#comment-127817</link>
		<dc:creator>John Quiggin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 10:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Presumably the proportion of post-Google users, preferrring alternatives like Technorati or direct consultation of Wikipedia, is still to small to show up in studies like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Presumably the proportion of post-Google users, preferrring alternatives like Technorati or direct consultation of Wikipedia, is still to small to show up in studies like this.</p>
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