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	<title>Comments on: Merry Christmas</title>
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	<description>Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made</description>
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		<title>By: nofundy</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/24/merry-christmas-2/comment-page-1/#comment-133228</link>
		<dc:creator>nofundy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2005 14:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I thought he only wrote of &quot;The #1 Ladies Detective Agency&quot;!  Thanks for the excerpt.

Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on. - Churchill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>And I thought he only wrote of &#8220;The #1 Ladies Detective Agency&#8221;!  Thanks for the excerpt.</p>

	<p>Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on. &#8211; Churchill</p>
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		<title>By: Bob B</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/24/merry-christmas-2/comment-page-1/#comment-133087</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2005 11:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seasonal salutations.

This news report in Wednesday&#039;s press really ought to prompt urgent wide debate on the implications:

&quot;The upcoming chairman of the Russel Group of universities has warned the British government that home students at top UK universities are being displaced by a growing number of highly qualified students from Europe. . . Under EU laws, universities cannot discriminate between EU candidates.&quot;
http://euobserver.com/?aid=20609&amp;rk=1

[Spelling as in the original EU Observer news report - more usually, it&#039;s the Russell Group of universities.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Seasonal salutations.</p>

	<p>This news report in Wednesday&#8217;s press really ought to prompt urgent wide debate on the implications:</p>

	<p>&#8220;The upcoming chairman of the Russel Group of universities has warned the British government that home students at top UK universities are being displaced by a growing number of highly qualified students from Europe. . . Under EU laws, universities cannot discriminate between EU candidates.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://euobserver.com/?aid=20609&#038;rk=1" rel="nofollow">http://euobserver.com/?aid=20609&#038;rk=1</a></p>

	<p>[Spelling as in the original <span class="caps">EU </span>Observer news report &#8211; more usually, it&#8217;s the Russell Group of universities.]</p>
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		<title>By: John Quiggin</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/24/merry-christmas-2/comment-page-1/#comment-133084</link>
		<dc:creator>John Quiggin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2005 06:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spent my Christmas also at the beach in Sydney, at Avalon which is about as far from Cronulla as you can get. Even so, every kind of Australian was there, dressed in every way from barely anything to full-length dress and hajib. No-one looked liked they had anything much on their minds except gettting wet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I spent my Christmas also at the beach in Sydney, at Avalon which is about as far from Cronulla as you can get. Even so, every kind of Australian was there, dressed in every way from barely anything to full-length dress and hajib. No-one looked liked they had anything much on their minds except gettting wet.</p>
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		<title>By: Antti Nannimus</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/24/merry-christmas-2/comment-page-1/#comment-133074</link>
		<dc:creator>Antti Nannimus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bah, 

Off with their heads!

Have a nice day,

Antti</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Bah,</p>

	<p>Off with their heads!</p>

	<p>Have a nice day,</p>

	<p>Antti</p>
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		<title>By: Tom T.</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/24/merry-christmas-2/comment-page-1/#comment-132773</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 04:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was ever thus, y81.

Best wishes to all.  Here&#039;s hoping that the holidays find all of you contented and loved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It was ever thus, y81.</p>

	<p>Best wishes to all.  Here&#8217;s hoping that the holidays find all of you contented and loved.</p>
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		<title>By: y81</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/24/merry-christmas-2/comment-page-1/#comment-132759</link>
		<dc:creator>y81</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 02:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might also be a good time to remember that if absolute justice and righteousness ever did indeed take on human form, most of us would probably be able to put aside our political differences and crucify the human in question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It might also be a good time to remember that if absolute justice and righteousness ever did indeed take on human form, most of us would probably be able to put aside our political differences and crucify the human in question.</p>
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		<title>By: jet</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/24/merry-christmas-2/comment-page-1/#comment-132757</link>
		<dc:creator>jet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 01:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a good time of year to stop and contemplate life in the hundreds of hell-holes that still contain uncountable suffering throughout the world.  For everyone here enjoying modern life, Merry Christmas, and for those in less fortunate places, my prayers (and endless rhetoric convincing all I know of the need of your plight).

[Feeling a bit emotional after making a new Burmese friend and hearing his tales of home.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It is a good time of year to stop and contemplate life in the hundreds of hell-holes that still contain uncountable suffering throughout the world.  For everyone here enjoying modern life, Merry Christmas, and for those in less fortunate places, my prayers (and endless rhetoric convincing all I know of the need of your plight).</p>

	<p>[Feeling a bit emotional after making a new Burmese friend and hearing his tales of home.]</p>
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		<title>By: Tad Brennan</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/24/merry-christmas-2/comment-page-1/#comment-132752</link>
		<dc:creator>Tad Brennan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bro. Bartleby--

Can you point out to me the part in KH&#039;s post where he singled out Christian dogmatism and intolerance for particular censure?  

I had read his note as directed equally towards all forms of fanaticism and intolerance, e.g., the fanatics who put out a fatwa against Salman Rushdie, or the butchers in Darfur.  Those are agents of intolerance, though not of Christian fundamentalism.

Intolerance in all of its forms is surely a leading source of &quot;real enemies with real swords&quot;.  

As is the habit, common to many powerful groups, of portraying themselves as beleaguered victims of persecution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Bro. Bartleby&#8212;<br />
Can you point out to me the part in KH&#8217;s post where he singled out Christian dogmatism and intolerance for particular censure?</p>

	<p>I had read his note as directed equally towards all forms of fanaticism and intolerance, e.g., the fanatics who put out a fatwa against Salman Rushdie, or the butchers in Darfur.  Those are agents of intolerance, though not of Christian fundamentalism.</p>

	<p>Intolerance in all of its forms is surely a leading source of &#8220;real enemies with real swords&#8221;.</p>

	<p>As is the habit, common to many powerful groups, of portraying themselves as beleaguered victims of persecution.</p>
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		<title>By: Bro. Bartleby</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/24/merry-christmas-2/comment-page-1/#comment-132748</link>
		<dc:creator>Bro. Bartleby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2005 14:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blessing all! And if your greatest fear is the fundamentalist Christians, then you are indeed blessed. For some are born into the world with real enemies with real swords or the far greatest enemy of all, circumstances. All these make the 21 Century fundamentalist Christian seem puny indeed.
Bro. Bartleby</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Blessing all! And if your greatest fear is the fundamentalist Christians, then you are indeed blessed. For some are born into the world with real enemies with real swords or the far greatest enemy of all, circumstances. All these make the 21 Century fundamentalist Christian seem puny indeed.<br />
Bro. Bartleby</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/24/merry-christmas-2/comment-page-1/#comment-132746</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2005 11:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well now it&#039;s boxing day and therefore time for the equally traditional reminder that although, as Kieran notes with due humility, it is entirely &lt;i&gt;possible&lt;/i&gt; that we at Crooked Timber could be mistaken, we are as a matter of fact &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; wrong, so Merry Christmas and cobblers to all our political enemies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well now it&#8217;s boxing day and therefore time for the equally traditional reminder that although, as Kieran notes with due humility, it is entirely <i>possible</i> that we at Crooked Timber could be mistaken, we are as a matter of fact <b>not</b> wrong, so Merry Christmas and cobblers to all our political enemies.</p>
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		<title>By: leszek</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/24/merry-christmas-2/comment-page-1/#comment-132739</link>
		<dc:creator>leszek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2005 05:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and remember the golden algorithm, tic-for-tac. amen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8230;and remember the golden algorithm, tic-for-tac. amen.</p>
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		<title>By: farang</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/24/merry-christmas-2/comment-page-1/#comment-132627</link>
		<dc:creator>farang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2005 02:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank&#039;s for demonstrating why the Right fears the Intellectuals so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thank&#8217;s for demonstrating why the Right fears the Intellectuals so.</p>
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		<title>By: Tad Brennan</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/24/merry-christmas-2/comment-page-1/#comment-132618</link>
		<dc:creator>Tad Brennan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2005 21:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A quote about epistemic humility that often recurs to me:

&quot;I beseech you in the bowels of Christ, think it possible that you may be mistaken!&quot;

Originally uttered by someone not famous for toleration or humility, i.e. Cromwell.  Still, something resonant about the phrase, esp. when addressed to oneself....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>A quote about epistemic humility that often recurs to me:</p>

	<p>&#8220;I beseech you in the bowels of Christ, think it possible that you may be mistaken!&#8221;</p>

	<p>Originally uttered by someone not famous for toleration or humility, i.e. Cromwell.  Still, something resonant about the phrase, esp. when addressed to oneself&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: bob mcmanus</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/24/merry-christmas-2/comment-page-1/#comment-132611</link>
		<dc:creator>bob mcmanus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2005 16:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;For what else is there for us to hope for? What else, I ask you, what else?’&quot;

A lottery win and a Maverick championship would do.

Merry Xmas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;For what else is there for us to hope for? What else, I ask you, what else?&#8217;&#8221;</p>

	<p>A lottery win and a Maverick championship would do.</p>

	<p>Merry Xmas.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexei McDonald</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/24/merry-christmas-2/comment-page-1/#comment-132502</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexei McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2005 14:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And God bless us, every one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>And God bless us, every one.</p>
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