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		<title>By: abb1</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/30/terrorism-and-cancer/comment-page-2/#comment-134760</link>
		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 13:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, I thought Luther did support the uprisings, at least for a while; if not, I stand corrected. 

In any case, the revolts were a direct consequence of his rhetoric. The guy was a revolutionary. The point is that the whole reformation thing wasn&#039;t initiated by an oppressed peasant, but by a rich,  highly educated guy, a lawyer.

The definition is something like &#039;political hyper-activism&#039;, &#039;political extremism&#039;. I think terrorism easily falls into this category. I don&#039;t know much about Zarqawi: hard to separate facts from fiction at this time.

The Trotsky&#039;s quote I am sure has something to do with one of the many splits between autoritarian communists (Marxists) and the anarchists around 1900.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hmm, I thought Luther did support the uprisings, at least for a while; if not, I stand corrected.</p>

	<p>In any case, the revolts were a direct consequence of his rhetoric. The guy was a revolutionary. The point is that the whole reformation thing wasn&#8217;t initiated by an oppressed peasant, but by a rich,  highly educated guy, a lawyer.</p>

	<p>The definition is something like &#8216;political hyper-activism&#8217;, &#8216;political extremism&#8217;. I think terrorism easily falls into this category. I don&#8217;t know much about Zarqawi: hard to separate facts from fiction at this time.</p>

	<p>The Trotsky&#8217;s quote I am sure has something to do with one of the many splits between autoritarian communists (Marxists) and the anarchists around 1900.</p>
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		<title>By: soru</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/30/terrorism-and-cancer/comment-page-2/#comment-134758</link>
		<dc:creator>soru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 12:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading abb1&#039;s comments is just so depressing. It&#039;s like starting work on Jan 2nd, and seeing a vast warehouse, stretching as far as the eye can see, all full of misconceptions that you have to clean up.

Best make a start on it.

What makes you connect:

a clerical reformer like Luther, author of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Against_the_Murderous%2C_Thieving_Hordes_of_Peasants&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;against the murderous theiving hordes of peasants&lt;/a&gt;.

an intellectual like Engels (who did actually fight in the 1848 revolution in Germany, but as part of an organised army)?

a revolutionary like Castro?

a terrorist like zarqawi (or pick any other one that is actually a terrorist, not a mislabelled ?

What definition covers those four, that doesn&#039;t amount to &#039;notable person&#039;? A famous successful terrorist will probably share some traits with famous successful people in other fields (revolutionary, but also rock star, politician, actor, ...), but I don&#039;t think that explains much.

Whatever his other opinions, Trotsky was very sound on terrorism:
http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/works/1909/tia09.htm
&lt;i&gt;However, in order to murder a prominent official you need not have the organised masses behind you. The recipe for explosives is accessible to all, and a Browning can be obtained anywhere. In the first case, there is a social struggle, whose methods and means flow necessarily from the nature of the prevailing social order; and in the second, a purely mechanical reaction identical anywhere - in China as in France - very striking in its outward form (murder, explosions and so forth) but absolutely harmless as far as the social system goes.&lt;/i&gt;

soru</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Reading abb1&#8217;s comments is just so depressing. It&#8217;s like starting work on Jan 2nd, and seeing a vast warehouse, stretching as far as the eye can see, all full of misconceptions that you have to clean up.</p>

	<p>Best make a start on it.</p>

	<p>What makes you connect:</p>

	<p>a clerical reformer like Luther, author of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Against_the_Murderous%2C_Thieving_Hordes_of_Peasants" rel="nofollow">against the murderous theiving hordes of peasants</a>.</p>

	<p>an intellectual like Engels (who did actually fight in the 1848 revolution in Germany, but as part of an organised army)?</p>

	<p>a revolutionary like Castro?</p>

	<p>a terrorist like zarqawi (or pick any other one that is actually a terrorist, not a mislabelled ?</p>

	<p>What definition covers those four, that doesn&#8217;t amount to &#8216;notable person&#8217;? A famous successful terrorist will probably share some traits with famous successful people in other fields (revolutionary, but also rock star, politician, actor, &#8230;), but I don&#8217;t think that explains much.</p>

	<p>Whatever his other opinions, Trotsky was very sound on terrorism:<br />
<a href="http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/works/1909/tia09.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/works/1909/tia09.htm</a><br />
<i>However, in order to murder a prominent official you need not have the organised masses behind you. The recipe for explosives is accessible to all, and a Browning can be obtained anywhere. In the first case, there is a social struggle, whose methods and means flow necessarily from the nature of the prevailing social order; and in the second, a purely mechanical reaction identical anywhere &#8211; in China as in France &#8211; very striking in its outward form (murder, explosions and so forth) but absolutely harmless as far as the social system goes.</i></p>

	<p>soru</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/30/terrorism-and-cancer/comment-page-2/#comment-134754</link>
		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 09:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;That would be a valid explanation for why some individuals suffer oppression and don’t become terrorists, and why some millionaires sons do.&lt;/i&gt;

A common individual suffering oppression will cut a conveyor belt or throw rocks at a IDF jeep, he&#039;ll shoot his supervisor at a post office or some jocks at his school. These actions don&#039;t even count as &#039;terrorism&#039;. Common individuals usually have a very narrow perspective, IOW they blame and attack the immediate agent of their oppresson. 

It&#039;s easy to see why an educated, smart, well-read and especially well-travelled individual - assuming this very specific (intolerance for institutional injustice) psychological profile (or psychological disorder, if you wish) is much more likely to become a revolutionary or a terrorist. That&#039;s been going on for ages and all over the place, from Luther to Garibaldi to Bakunin, Marx, Engels, Lenin, Castro, Che, etc, etc. That&#039;s the rule rather than exception.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>That would be a valid explanation for why some individuals suffer oppression and don&#8217;t become terrorists, and why some millionaires sons do.</i></p>

	<p>A common individual suffering oppression will cut a conveyor belt or throw rocks at a <span class="caps">IDF</span> jeep, he&#8217;ll shoot his supervisor at a post office or some jocks at his school. These actions don&#8217;t even count as &#8216;terrorism&#8217;. Common individuals usually have a very narrow perspective, <span class="caps">IOW</span> they blame and attack the immediate agent of their oppresson.</p>

	<p>It&#8217;s easy to see why an educated, smart, well-read and especially well-travelled individual &#8211; assuming this very specific (intolerance for institutional injustice) psychological profile (or psychological disorder, if you wish) is much more likely to become a revolutionary or a terrorist. That&#8217;s been going on for ages and all over the place, from Luther to Garibaldi to Bakunin, Marx, Engels, Lenin, Castro, Che, etc, etc. That&#8217;s the rule rather than exception.</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Slack</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/30/terrorism-and-cancer/comment-page-2/#comment-134746</link>
		<dc:creator>Doctor Slack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 07:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Yeah, I do allow violence by the good against the bad, and not by the bad against the good.&lt;/i&gt;

To most people -- including many of the American people for whom you falsely pretend to speak against &quot;the left&quot; -- &quot;good&quot; and &quot;bad&quot; are defined by actions and their consequences. If you don&#039;t grasp this, you&#039;re living in a comic book and frankly don&#039;t deserve to be taken seriously.

&lt;i&gt;And that IS a moral principle, morality having to do as much with what you’re trying to achieve, as the means you are using.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m sure Stalin would have agreed with you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Yeah, I do allow violence by the good against the bad, and not by the bad against the good.</i></p>

	<p>To most people&#8212;including many of the American people for whom you falsely pretend to speak against &#8220;the left&#8221;&#8212;&#8220;good&#8221; and &#8220;bad&#8221; are defined by actions and their consequences. If you don&#8217;t grasp this, you&#8217;re living in a comic book and frankly don&#8217;t deserve to be taken seriously.</p>

	<p><i>And that IS a moral principle, morality having to do as much with what you&#8217;re trying to achieve, as the means you are using.</i></p>

	<p>I&#8217;m sure Stalin would have agreed with you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rollo</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/30/terrorism-and-cancer/comment-page-2/#comment-134648</link>
		<dc:creator>rollo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 06:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may or may not have bearing on the metaphorical application of smoking and lung cancer to oppression and terrorist violence, but there&#039;s a more accurate way to describe the tobacco used in the equation: as &lt;i&gt;commercially grown and prepared&lt;/i&gt;.
Tobacco is free of the constricting though not nearly enough so pesticide policies that food in the US is subject to - meaning that pesticide residue in commercial non-organic tobaccos, which is much much higher than legally allowable in fruits and vegetables, may be and probably is a factor worth serious consideration.  Further adulteration with flavor-enhancers and flame retarding chemicals, and the burning of all these added and residual chemical compounds before they&#039;re inhaled into the lungs make the causative link somewhat more complicated than a simple tobacco=cancer.
While we do know that indigenous Americans revered the plant and used it extensively, there&#039;s probably not a great volume of research literature on the cancer rates of significant populations of long-term users of organic tobacco exclusively - so we&#039;re left to surmise according to our bias and suspicion. 
As we do concerning acts of terrorism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This may or may not have bearing on the metaphorical application of smoking and lung cancer to oppression and terrorist violence, but there&#8217;s a more accurate way to describe the tobacco used in the equation: as <i>commercially grown and prepared</i>.<br />
Tobacco is free of the constricting though not nearly enough so pesticide policies that food in the US is subject to &#8211; meaning that pesticide residue in commercial non-organic tobaccos, which is much much higher than legally allowable in fruits and vegetables, may be and probably is a factor worth serious consideration.  Further adulteration with flavor-enhancers and flame retarding chemicals, and the burning of all these added and residual chemical compounds before they&#8217;re inhaled into the lungs make the causative link somewhat more complicated than a simple tobacco=cancer.<br />
While we do know that indigenous Americans revered the plant and used it extensively, there&#8217;s probably not a great volume of research literature on the cancer rates of significant populations of long-term users of organic tobacco exclusively &#8211; so we&#8217;re left to surmise according to our bias and suspicion.<br />
As we do concerning acts of terrorism.</p>
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		<title>By: Bro. Bartleby</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/30/terrorism-and-cancer/comment-page-2/#comment-134632</link>
		<dc:creator>Bro. Bartleby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 03:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Petri dish ethics: Everything is good, because the victor writes the history and enjoys reading it.

Postmodern ethics: One thing is certain, we cannot be certain when it comes to ethics ... or anything else.

Traditional Christian ethics: I know good when I see it, and I know bad when I see it. Good, good. Bad, bad.

Street ethics: All is bad, and don&#039;t blame me, you created this mess.

Terrorist ethics: I know good when I see it, and I know bad when I see it. Good, bad. Bad, good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Petri dish ethics: Everything is good, because the victor writes the history and enjoys reading it.</p>

	<p>Postmodern ethics: One thing is certain, we cannot be certain when it comes to ethics &#8230; or anything else.</p>

	<p>Traditional Christian ethics: I know good when I see it, and I know bad when I see it. Good, good. Bad, bad.</p>

	<p>Street ethics: All is bad, and don&#8217;t blame me, you created this mess.</p>

	<p>Terrorist ethics: I know good when I see it, and I know bad when I see it. Good, bad. Bad, good.</p>
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		<title>By: engels</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/30/terrorism-and-cancer/comment-page-2/#comment-134628</link>
		<dc:creator>engels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 01:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conventional ethics: Some things are bad. People who do bad things a lot are bad people.

Bellmorian ethics: Some people are Bad. (It´s just obvious who). When they do stuff it is therefore bad, even if the same stuff wouldn´t have been bad if a &quot;Good&quot; person had done it.

Shorter Brett (a la Duchamp): Badness is whatever the Baddie spits out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Conventional ethics: Some things are bad. People who do bad things a lot are bad people.</p>

	<p>Bellmorian ethics: Some people are Bad. (It&#180;s just obvious who). When they do stuff it is therefore bad, even if the same stuff wouldn&#180;t have been bad if a &#8220;Good&#8221; person had done it.</p>

	<p>Shorter Brett (a la Duchamp): Badness is whatever the Baddie spits out.</p>
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		<title>By: soru</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/30/terrorism-and-cancer/comment-page-2/#comment-134619</link>
		<dc:creator>soru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 23:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Sometimes a heavy smoker lives 100 years and never gets lung cancer. Sometimes a non-smoker gets lung cancer. Nevertheless, the connection is obvious.&lt;/i&gt;

That would be a valid explanation for why some individuals suffer oppression and don&#039;t become terrorists, and why some millionaires sons do. That&#039;s not what is being pointed out, what you actually see is the equivalent of French people not getting lung cancer.

That should be a clue a less simplistic model is needed.

soru</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Sometimes a heavy smoker lives 100 years and never gets lung cancer. Sometimes a non-smoker gets lung cancer. Nevertheless, the connection is obvious.</i></p>

	<p>That would be a valid explanation for why some individuals suffer oppression and don&#8217;t become terrorists, and why some millionaires sons do. That&#8217;s not what is being pointed out, what you actually see is the equivalent of French people not getting lung cancer.</p>

	<p>That should be a clue a less simplistic model is needed.</p>

	<p>soru</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/30/terrorism-and-cancer/comment-page-2/#comment-134489</link>
		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes a heavy smoker lives 100 years and never gets lung cancer. Sometimes a non-smoker gets lung cancer. Nevertheless, the connection is obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Sometimes a heavy smoker lives 100 years and never gets lung cancer. Sometimes a non-smoker gets lung cancer. Nevertheless, the connection is obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: John Emerson</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/30/terrorism-and-cancer/comment-page-2/#comment-134488</link>
		<dc:creator>John Emerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 14:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ABB1 -- I actually disagree. Sometimes oppressed peoples are completely intimidated and servile. Terrorism seems to come when such peoples have a window to the outside world and see themselves on the global stage, possibly with international support, and have some source of financing.

For example, terrorism in Bolivia is fairly recent (last several decades), but I can&#039;t believe that Bolivia was less repressive in the 1930&#039;s or 1940&#039;s.

To me terrorism is a slippery concept which  is often used self-servingly in the Bellmore manner (&quot;violence by bad people&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><span class="caps">ABB1 </span>&#8212;I actually disagree. Sometimes oppressed peoples are completely intimidated and servile. Terrorism seems to come when such peoples have a window to the outside world and see themselves on the global stage, possibly with international support, and have some source of financing.</p>

	<p>For example, terrorism in Bolivia is fairly recent (last several decades), but I can&#8217;t believe that Bolivia was less repressive in the 1930&#8217;s or 1940&#8217;s.</p>

	<p>To me terrorism is a slippery concept which  is often used self-servingly in the Bellmore manner (&#8220;violence by bad people&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/30/terrorism-and-cancer/comment-page-2/#comment-134487</link>
		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 14:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here&#039;s what Dr John R Smith, an Oklahoma psychiatrist, &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1382540.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;said about Timothy McVeigh&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;

Dr Smith said McVeigh was in many ways surprisingly normal - of above average intelligence and with good social skills.
[...]
&quot;He&#039;s a young man capable of feeling great anger particularly at people or institutions that he considers to be bullies.&quot;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>And here&#8217;s what Dr John R Smith, an Oklahoma psychiatrist, <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1382540.stm" rel="nofollow">said about Timothy McVeigh</a>:</p>

	<p><blockquote></blockquote></p>

	<p>Dr Smith said McVeigh was in many ways surprisingly normal &#8211; of above average intelligence and with good social skills.<br />
[...]<br />
&#8220;He&#8217;s a young man capable of feeling great anger particularly at people or institutions that he considers to be bullies.&#8221;<br />
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/30/terrorism-and-cancer/comment-page-2/#comment-134485</link>
		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 14:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mechanics of one particular incident are described in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Atta_al_Sayed&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wiki article about Mohamed Atta&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
In Germany, Atta was registered as a citizen of the United Arab Emirates. His German friends describe him as an intelligent man with religious beliefs who grew angry over the Western policy toward the Middle East, including the Oslo Accords and the Gulf War. MSNBC in its special &quot;The Making of the Death Pilots&quot; interviewed German friend Ralph Bodenstein who traveled, worked and talked a lot with Mohamed Atta. Ralph said, &quot;He was most imbued actually about Israeli politics in the region and about U.S. protection of these Israeli politics in the region. And he was to a degree personally suffering from that.&quot;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The mechanics of one particular incident are described in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Atta_al_Sayed" rel="nofollow">wiki article about Mohamed Atta</a>:<br />
<blockquote><br />
In Germany, Atta was registered as a citizen of the United Arab Emirates. His German friends describe him as an intelligent man with religious beliefs who grew angry over the Western policy toward the Middle East, including the Oslo Accords and the Gulf War. <span class="caps">MSNBC</span> in its special &#8220;The Making of the Death Pilots&#8221; interviewed German friend Ralph Bodenstein who traveled, worked and talked a lot with Mohamed Atta. Ralph said, &#8220;He was most imbued actually about Israeli politics in the region and about U.S. protection of these Israeli politics in the region. And he was to a degree personally suffering from that.&#8221;<br />
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/30/terrorism-and-cancer/comment-page-2/#comment-134484</link>
		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 14:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Institutionalized injustice (or perception of it) will cause terrorism with at least the same degree of certainty as heavy smoking will cause cancer. I think this is rather self-evident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Institutionalized injustice (or perception of it) will cause terrorism with at least the same degree of certainty as heavy smoking will cause cancer. I think this is rather self-evident.</p>
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		<title>By: John Emerson</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/30/terrorism-and-cancer/comment-page-2/#comment-134350</link>
		<dc:creator>John Emerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 05:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neil, OT (on-topic) posts are not allowd at CT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Neil, <span class="caps">OT </span>(on-topic) posts are not allowd at CT.</p>
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		<title>By: neil</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2005/12/30/terrorism-and-cancer/comment-page-2/#comment-134347</link>
		<dc:creator>neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 03:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taking Quiggin seriously, I wanted to provide examples of the following:

 * more lengthy pieces pointing out that criticism of any kind of quack remedy marks the critic as &quot;objectively pro-cancer&quot;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mycancerfacts.org/The_Cancer_Conspiracy/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Cancer Conspiracy&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whale.to/cancer/cantwell2.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Another Cancer Conspiracy&lt;/a&gt;
Many such pieces about AIDS can be found, too.
    * lengthy pieces pointing out that the only thing we need to know about cancer cells is that they are malignant

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.healingcancernaturally.com/resisting-alternativetreatment.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why cancer patients may ignore, ridicule, reject, &amp; attack alternative cancer treatments&lt;/a&gt; -- this one works well if you substitute liberals for doctors</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Taking Quiggin seriously, I wanted to provide examples of the following:</p>

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		<li>more lengthy pieces pointing out that criticism of any kind of quack remedy marks the critic as &#8220;objectively pro-cancer&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.mycancerfacts.org/The_Cancer_Conspiracy/" rel="nofollow">The Cancer Conspiracy</a><br />
<a href="http://www.whale.to/cancer/cantwell2.html" rel="nofollow">Another Cancer Conspiracy</a><br />
Many such pieces about <span class="caps">AIDS</span> can be found, too.</li>
		<li>lengthy pieces pointing out that the only thing we need to know about cancer cells is that they are malignant</li>
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	<p><a href="http://www.healingcancernaturally.com/resisting-alternativetreatment.html" rel="nofollow">Why cancer patients may ignore, ridicule, reject, &#038; attack alternative cancer treatments</a>&#8212;this one works well if you substitute liberals for doctors</p>
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