Comments on: All’s Right With the World ? http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/ Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made Mon, 13 Feb 2012 08:31:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: John Quiggin http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/comment-page-2/#comment-142543 John Quiggin Thu, 02 Feb 2006 20:23:50 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/#comment-142543 Barry, I'm still waiting for Michael Fumento to turn up with his shredder for my last post. Steve can stand in line. Barry, I’m still waiting for Michael Fumento to turn up with his shredder for my last post. Steve can stand in line.

]]> By: Bro. Bartleby http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/comment-page-2/#comment-142520 Bro. Bartleby Thu, 02 Feb 2006 18:18:37 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/#comment-142520 a., It's a funny. BB a.,
It’s a funny.
BB

]]> By: Thomas http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/comment-page-2/#comment-142494 Thomas Thu, 02 Feb 2006 16:35:22 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/#comment-142494 a., I'm more familiar with people who wouldn't vote for Bush because of his supposed religiosity than with those who did vote for him for the same. I wonder about the circles you travel in. An unusual one for a CT reader, for sure. a., I’m more familiar with people who wouldn’t vote for Bush because of his supposed religiosity than with those who did vote for him for the same. I wonder about the circles you travel in. An unusual one for a CT reader, for sure.

]]> By: A. http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/comment-page-2/#comment-142448 A. Thu, 02 Feb 2006 14:46:22 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/#comment-142448 Bartleby: Is your point that the press is against Bush? Oddly, although the sentences you write are not anywhere to be found (because Bush doesn't go to church), if you replaced the word "Bush" with "Clinton" they are everywhere. So can we conclude the press was against Clinton? Thomas: The point isn't about religiosity, but about using religion to win votes. I have met many people who vote for Bush for no reason other than "he's a good Christian." For this reason it is perfectly appropriate to ask whether evidence indicates that is true or false. Bartleby: Is your point that the press is against Bush? Oddly, although the sentences you write are not anywhere to be found (because Bush doesn’t go to church), if you replaced the word “Bush” with “Clinton” they are everywhere. So can we conclude the press was against Clinton?

Thomas: The point isn’t about religiosity, but about using religion to win votes. I have met many people who vote for Bush for no reason other than “he’s a good Christian.” For this reason it is perfectly appropriate to ask whether evidence indicates that is true or false.

]]> By: Bro. Bartleby http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/comment-page-2/#comment-142430 Bro. Bartleby Thu, 02 Feb 2006 14:03:58 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/#comment-142430 Headline: President Waves to crowd after Sunday Service Story: Not since President Washington has a president been such a common sight inside a church on Sunday mornings, leaving many to quip that perhaps President Bush will purchase the pew that up until now had the nameplate of the Washington family. OpEd: Again, the President wears his religiousity on his lapel, week after week performing for the right-wing crowd, the perfect photo-op obviously orchestrated by Bishop Carl Rove. Unlike John Kerry, who worships in his private chapel, the President delights in showing his 'perfect attendance' lapel button to the unchurched reporters covering what is now referred to as the Sunday ritual. Headline: President Waves to crowd after Sunday Service

Story: Not since President Washington has a president been such a common sight inside a church on Sunday mornings, leaving many to quip that perhaps President Bush will purchase the pew that up until now had the nameplate of the Washington family.

OpEd: Again, the President wears his religiousity on his lapel, week after week performing for the right-wing crowd, the perfect photo-op obviously orchestrated by Bishop Carl Rove. Unlike John Kerry, who worships in his private chapel, the President delights in showing his ‘perfect attendance’ lapel button to the unchurched reporters covering what is now referred to as the Sunday ritual.

]]> By: abb1 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-142424 abb1 Thu, 02 Feb 2006 13:01:45 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/#comment-142424 ...<i>but</i> few chosen. …but few chosen.

]]> By: abb1 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-142423 abb1 Thu, 02 Feb 2006 13:00:34 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/#comment-142423 ...many are called by few chosen. …many are called by few chosen.

]]> By: Barry http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-142422 Barry Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:43:59 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/#comment-142422 Steve, still waiting for your response, giving your feelings for Bush's not enlisting when he was 18, and securing a nice National Guard post when the draft man was about to come callin'. Steve, still waiting for your response, giving your feelings for Bush’s not enlisting when he was 18, and securing a nice National Guard post when the draft man was about to come callin’.

]]> By: abb1 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-142391 abb1 Thu, 02 Feb 2006 09:59:54 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/#comment-142391 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22miserable+failure%22 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22miserable+failure%22

]]> By: Ray http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-142387 Ray Thu, 02 Feb 2006 09:34:24 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/#comment-142387 Bush "religious fanatic" = about 80,000 Bush hypocrite = about 1,260,000 Bush “religious fanatic” = about 80,000
Bush hypocrite = about 1,260,000

]]> By: John Quiggin http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-142383 John Quiggin Thu, 02 Feb 2006 09:17:18 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/#comment-142383 "Unless this president is a lot more hated by a lot more people" You would think so, but Clinton was hated pretty violently by lots of Republicans. I was always surprised by this; in policy terms he wasn't notably to the left of Bush I after all. And bin Laden was out to get him too, not surprisingly. “Unless this president is a lot more hated by a lot more people”

You would think so, but Clinton was hated pretty violently by lots of Republicans. I was always surprised by this; in policy terms he wasn’t notably to the left of Bush I after all. And bin Laden was out to get him too, not surprisingly.

]]> By: Harald Korneliussen http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-142380 Harald Korneliussen Thu, 02 Feb 2006 08:18:06 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/#comment-142380 Bro. Bartleby wrote: "And what are the Secret Service logistics for the President to attend a ‘normal’ church service?" Matt McGrattan wrote: "The fact that previous Presidents have attended regularly suggests that’s not really an issue, eh?" Unless this president is a lot more hated by a lot more people, which seems reasonable to me. (Both the statement and the hatred, actually...) Bro. Bartleby wrote: “And what are the Secret Service logistics for the President to attend a ‘normal’ church service?”

Matt McGrattan wrote: “The fact that previous Presidents have attended regularly suggests that’s not really an issue, eh?”

Unless this president is a lot more hated by a lot more people, which seems reasonable to me. (Both the statement and the hatred, actually…)

]]> By: H. e. baber http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-142363 H. e. baber Thu, 02 Feb 2006 03:35:43 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/#comment-142363 it depends on what you mean by "religion"--and many Americans seem to mean "values"=socially conservative views on "lifestyle issues" rather than metaphysical commitments or cultic participation. I sometimes wonder what would happen if someone, in the experimental spirit of L. Ron Hubbard, invested a non-theistic "religion" that promoted socially conservative lifestyle rules (maybe promoting sex roles on secular sociobiological grounds), jingoism and capitalism and opposing sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll without any burdensome theological dogmas or religious obligations. I think that would be a winner--and a money=maker. it depends on what you mean by “religion”—and many Americans seem to mean “values”=socially conservative views on “lifestyle issues” rather than metaphysical commitments or cultic participation.

I sometimes wonder what would happen if someone, in the experimental spirit of L. Ron Hubbard, invested a non-theistic “religion” that promoted socially conservative lifestyle rules (maybe promoting sex roles on secular sociobiological grounds), jingoism and capitalism and opposing sex, drugs and rock ‘n’ roll without any burdensome theological dogmas or religious obligations.

I think that would be a winner—and a money=maker.

]]> By: Thomas http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-142352 Thomas Thu, 02 Feb 2006 01:10:57 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/#comment-142352 John, that may have more to do with my word choice than with the substance of my point. (Try Bush + "religious fanatic", or some other appropriate substitute.) John, that may have more to do with my word choice than with the substance of my point. (Try Bush + “religious fanatic”, or some other appropriate substitute.)

]]> By: yabonn http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-142341 yabonn Wed, 01 Feb 2006 23:06:28 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/01/alls-right-with-the-world/#comment-142341 <i>snort, cough chablis out of one’s nose,</i> Me? Wasting wine? Ridiculous supposition. Besides i don't do Chablis, usually. OK, a good Laroche if i must. But wait. You <i>know</i> it's not meant to be snorted, right? snort, cough chablis out of one’s nose,

Me? Wasting wine? Ridiculous supposition.

Besides i don’t do Chablis, usually.

OK, a good Laroche if i must.

But wait. You know it’s not meant to be snorted, right?

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