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		<title>By: Luc</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/21/im-not-an-economist-but/comment-page-1/#comment-145792</link>
		<dc:creator>Luc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2006 08:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darren, what isn&#039;t true? 

Isn&#039;t there any solidarity required with the unemployed (whom I called &quot;the victim&quot;), specifically when labour costs are rising because of economic growth?

I know there&#039;s no single left dogma about this. But over here it is not uncommon to refer to solidarity when adressing this issue.

And ofcourse it doesn&#039;t define, but as I said the policy determines left or right, if only in the practical sense that left and right political parties have different policies for this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Darren, what isn&#8217;t true?</p>

	<p>Isn&#8217;t there any solidarity required with the unemployed (whom I called &#8220;the victim&#8221;), specifically when labour costs are rising because of economic growth?</p>

	<p>I know there&#8217;s no single left dogma about this. But over here it is not uncommon to refer to solidarity when adressing this issue.</p>

	<p>And ofcourse it doesn&#8217;t define, but as I said the policy determines left or right, if only in the practical sense that left and right political parties have different policies for this.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/21/im-not-an-economist-but/comment-page-1/#comment-145551</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luc,

So &quot;solidarity with the victim&quot; defines whether someone is left or right? I always thought it might have something to do with principles, ideas or policy positions. Good to know that it&#039;s really just a matter of defining who the victim is and looking to see who is on which side.

Actually, that would be horrible to know. My bad. Good thing it isn&#039;t true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Luc,</p>

	<p>So &#8220;solidarity with the victim&#8221; defines whether someone is left or right? I always thought it might have something to do with principles, ideas or policy positions. Good to know that it&#8217;s really just a matter of defining who the victim is and looking to see who is on which side.</p>

	<p>Actually, that would be horrible to know. My bad. Good thing it isn&#8217;t true.</p>
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		<title>By: Pit</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/21/im-not-an-economist-but/comment-page-1/#comment-145446</link>
		<dc:creator>Pit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the language is odd, but one sees what they mean. The Government (both this one and preceding ones) has claimed credit for increased employment (which they’ve called job-creation) when it’s happened in the past</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yes, the language is odd, but one sees what they mean. The Government (both this one and preceding ones) has claimed credit for increased employment (which they&#8217;ve called job-creation) when it&#8217;s happened in the past</p>
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		<title>By: P O'Neill</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/21/im-not-an-economist-but/comment-page-1/#comment-145427</link>
		<dc:creator>P O'Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue of the NEC closing will be raised at the next meeting of the Ballivor Fianna Fail cumann.  Hence it is something to which the party/government will feel requires a reponse.  It&#039;s just the chronic localism of Irish politics -- pothole candidates, people with famous surnames, and time-servers, dominating the pool of politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The issue of the <span class="caps">NEC</span> closing will be raised at the next meeting of the Ballivor Fianna Fail cumann.  Hence it is something to which the party/government will feel requires a reponse.  It&#8217;s just the chronic localism of Irish politics&#8212;pothole candidates, people with famous surnames, and time-servers, dominating the pool of politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Quo Vadis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quo Vadis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 06:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m one of those MBA types too, but I believe that there is a great deal governments at all levels can do to promote economic growth.  In fact, I would say that doing so is an essential part of community planning.

A nation or community that wants to promote industrial expansion has many ways of using policy and public funds to support economic development.   For instance, any investment in physical and educational infrastructure could support industrial development.  Governments can also make direct and indirect investments in R&amp;D to increase their competitiveness in key markets.

The quality and availability of basic public services is important as well.  Crime and corruption can affect the environment for economic development and I have heard that Toyota located a new manufacturing facility in Canada rather than in the US in part because they didn&#039;t have to worry about health care issues there.

Governments can and do offer tax incentives to companies to locate within their community.  If you check the 10K filings for any large US corporation and calculate their corporate tax rate you will probably discover that it is significantly less than the sum of the federal and state rates because states will offer corporations lower rates to locate there.

Of course there are things governments do to encourage economic growth that can have a negative impact on quality of life like lax environmental regualtions, but a government that has the community&#039;s best interests in mind will has to balance those priorities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;m one of those <span class="caps">MBA</span> types too, but I believe that there is a great deal governments at all levels can do to promote economic growth.  In fact, I would say that doing so is an essential part of community planning.</p>

	<p>A nation or community that wants to promote industrial expansion has many ways of using policy and public funds to support economic development.   For instance, any investment in physical and educational infrastructure could support industrial development.  Governments can also make direct and indirect investments in R&#038;D to increase their competitiveness in key markets.</p>

	<p>The quality and availability of basic public services is important as well.  Crime and corruption can affect the environment for economic development and I have heard that Toyota located a new manufacturing facility in Canada rather than in the US in part because they didn&#8217;t have to worry about health care issues there.</p>

	<p>Governments can and do offer tax incentives to companies to locate within their community.  If you check the 10K filings for any large US corporation and calculate their corporate tax rate you will probably discover that it is significantly less than the sum of the federal and state rates because states will offer corporations lower rates to locate there.</p>

	<p>Of course there are things governments do to encourage economic growth that can have a negative impact on quality of life like lax environmental regualtions, but a government that has the community&#8217;s best interests in mind will has to balance those priorities.</p>
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		<title>By: vivian</title>
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		<dc:creator>vivian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 04:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel: &lt;i&gt;They’re good for something at least, I thought.&lt;/i&gt;

children or weblogs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Daniel: <i>They&#8217;re good for something at least, I thought.</i></p>

	<p>children or weblogs?</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/21/im-not-an-economist-but/comment-page-1/#comment-145328</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 01:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;we are not going to figure out how to respond as nimbly and successfully to deepening globalisation if we let ourselves be hoodwinked into thinking economic reality is something the government cooked up.&lt;/i&gt;

Wot, you mean the recent decade of relative prosperity in Oz wasn&#039;t all John Howard&#039;s doing after all??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>we are not going to figure out how to respond as nimbly and successfully to deepening globalisation if we let ourselves be hoodwinked into thinking economic reality is something the government cooked up.</i></p>

	<p>Wot, you mean the recent decade of relative prosperity in Oz wasn&#8217;t all John Howard&#8217;s doing after all??</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/21/im-not-an-economist-but/comment-page-1/#comment-145306</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 23:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had an attack of the same phenomenon this morning when, due to an early start, I believed that the Telegraph was reporting that &quot;43% of children are born out of weblogs&quot;.  They&#039;re good for something at least, I thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I had an attack of the same phenomenon this morning when, due to an early start, I believed that the Telegraph was reporting that &#8220;43% of children are born out of weblogs&#8221;.  They&#8217;re good for something at least, I thought.</p>
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		<title>By: DC</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/21/im-not-an-economist-but/comment-page-1/#comment-145295</link>
		<dc:creator>DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 22:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Of course the government should have done...&quot;

All the things you agree the government ought to have done is presumably what is meant by &quot;the govt ought to have created jobs in Meath&quot;. Those things would presumably (and sensibly) have effected more regionally balanced growth and therefore more jobs (proportionately anyway) in Meath and less in Dublin.

By the way, the election is supposed to be 2007 not 2006. Though who knows what Bertie thinks about anything...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Of course the government should have done&#8230;&#8221;</p>

	<p>All the things you agree the government ought to have done is presumably what is meant by &#8220;the govt ought to have created jobs in Meath&#8221;. Those things would presumably (and sensibly) have effected more regionally balanced growth and therefore more jobs (proportionately anyway) in Meath and less in Dublin.</p>

	<p>By the way, the election is supposed to be 2007 not 2006. Though who knows what Bertie thinks about anything&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Danby</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/21/im-not-an-economist-but/comment-page-1/#comment-145284</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Danby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 21:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim&#039;s point is good -- even governments that claim to be conservative can&#039;t resist claiming credit for good things, so this kind of rhetoric continues.  I agree with the post -- I&#039;d rather define a small set of things gov&#039;t should do well rather than look to it as capable of solving all things.

I would relax, too, about the &quot;competitiveness challenge.&quot;  See Paul Krugman&#039;s debunking of &quot;national competitiveness&quot; (the key articles are collected in _Pop Internationalism_).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Jim&#8217;s point is good&#8212;even governments that claim to be conservative can&#8217;t resist claiming credit for good things, so this kind of rhetoric continues.  I agree with the post&#8212;I&#8217;d rather define a small set of things gov&#8217;t should do well rather than look to it as capable of solving all things.</p>

	<p>I would relax, too, about the &#8220;competitiveness challenge.&#8221;  See Paul Krugman&#8217;s debunking of &#8220;national competitiveness&#8221; (the key articles are collected in <em>Pop Internationalism</em>).</p>
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		<title>By: john m.</title>
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		<dc:creator>john m.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maria, I think perhaps you should have headed the article &quot;I&#039;m not a politician, but...&quot; The ruling government (of any stripe) rushes to take the praise for the creation of all and any jobs (as you know an issue of great recent historical political importance) and in marginal constituencies they rush in an unseemly fashion to establish regional job creation task forces etc. - hence the opposition take advantage of negative news to put attempt to put the boot in. It is, as you rightly point out, nothing to do with the notional role of government and certainly nothing to do with economics but it is most certainly core Irish politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Maria, I think perhaps you should have headed the article &#8220;I&#8217;m not a politician, but&#8230;&#8221; The ruling government (of any stripe) rushes to take the praise for the creation of all and any jobs (as you know an issue of great recent historical political importance) and in marginal constituencies they rush in an unseemly fashion to establish regional job creation task forces etc. &#8211; hence the opposition take advantage of negative news to put attempt to put the boot in. It is, as you rightly point out, nothing to do with the notional role of government and certainly nothing to do with economics but it is most certainly core Irish politics.</p>
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		<title>By: aaron</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/21/im-not-an-economist-but/comment-page-1/#comment-145237</link>
		<dc:creator>aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Careful Maria, you might get kicked off the blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Careful Maria, you might get kicked off the blog.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/21/im-not-an-economist-but/comment-page-1/#comment-145234</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the language is odd, but one sees what they mean.  The Government (both this one and preceding ones) has claimed credit for increased employment (which they&#039;ve called job-creation) when it&#039;s happened in the past.  So when it doesn&#039;t happen, or doesn&#039;t happen here, the Government is going to get blamed.  Seems fair to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yes, the language is odd, but one sees what they mean.  The Government (both this one and preceding ones) has claimed credit for increased employment (which they&#8217;ve called job-creation) when it&#8217;s happened in the past.  So when it doesn&#8217;t happen, or doesn&#8217;t happen here, the Government is going to get blamed.  Seems fair to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Edwards</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/21/im-not-an-economist-but/comment-page-1/#comment-145231</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Straight thinking and talking makes a good living for an MBA, but does the straight thinking deliver jobs to the people in Meath? If so, you’re creating an artificial divide between you and them, if not, you’re becoming a cynic.&lt;/i&gt;

I have no idea what this means. 

I also, by the way, don&#039;t see why leftism necessarily corresponds to valuing Meathian jobs especially highly. The real acid test for an MBA changing your politics is what happens when you go get a high-paying post-MBA job and start paying taxes at the top marginal rate.

And &quot;not an economist&quot; is a qualification, Belle, not a disclaimer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Straight thinking and talking makes a good living for an <span class="caps">MBA</span>, but does the straight thinking deliver jobs to the people in Meath? If so, you&#8217;re creating an artificial divide between you and them, if not, you&#8217;re becoming a cynic.</i></p>

	<p>I have no idea what this means.</p>

	<p>I also, by the way, don&#8217;t see why leftism necessarily corresponds to valuing Meathian jobs especially highly. The real acid test for an <span class="caps">MBA</span> changing your politics is what happens when you go get a high-paying post-MBA job and start paying taxes at the top marginal rate.</p>

	<p>And &#8220;not an economist&#8221; is a qualification, Belle, not a disclaimer.</p>
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		<title>By: Luc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Is the MBA finally shifting my politics to the right?&lt;/i&gt;

Looks like it.

Straight thinking and talking makes a good living for an MBA, but does the straight thinking deliver jobs to the people in Meath? If so, you&#039;re creating an artificial divide between you and them, if not, you&#039;re becoming a cynic.

&lt;i&gt;We’re simply victims of our own success.&lt;/i&gt;

Who&#039;s we? The solidarity with the victim here is what determines left or right.

If the county looses jobs because of the success of the rest of the country, they&#039;d be justified counting on the county getting support from the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Is the <span class="caps">MBA</span> finally shifting my politics to the right?</i></p>

	<p>Looks like it.</p>

	<p>Straight thinking and talking makes a good living for an <span class="caps">MBA</span>, but does the straight thinking deliver jobs to the people in Meath? If so, you&#8217;re creating an artificial divide between you and them, if not, you&#8217;re becoming a cynic.</p>

	<p><i>We&#8217;re simply victims of our own success.</i></p>

	<p>Who&#8217;s we? The solidarity with the victim here is what determines left or right.</p>

	<p>If the county looses jobs because of the success of the rest of the country, they&#8217;d be justified counting on the county getting support from the country.</p>
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