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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/28/the-mrs/comment-page-3/#comment-146552</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 08:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is going on here?  I can&#039;t believe nobody&#039;s quoted &lt;i&gt;Lucky Jim&lt;/i&gt; yet:

&quot;no other professor in Great Britain, he thought, set such store by being called Professor.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>What is going on here?  I can&#8217;t believe nobody&#8217;s quoted <i>Lucky Jim</i> yet:</p>

	<p>&#8220;no other professor in Great Britain, he thought, set such store by being called Professor.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Martial</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/28/the-mrs/comment-page-3/#comment-146477</link>
		<dc:creator>Martial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 23:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, male, was recently asked by a friend to speak to her graduate class at Tufts. Every single student who spoke to me after addressed me as Dr or Professor. Yes, I had just presented something like a lecture, but I had been clearly introduced as a &lt;i&gt;practitioner&lt;/i&gt; in a field - the same field the students are in or entering - which tends to top out at a Masters. It was odd and, yes, I corrected them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I, male, was recently asked by a friend to speak to her graduate class at Tufts. Every single student who spoke to me after addressed me as Dr or Professor. Yes, I had just presented something like a lecture, but I had been clearly introduced as a <i>practitioner</i> in a field &#8211; the same field the students are in or entering &#8211; which tends to top out at a Masters. It was odd and, yes, I corrected them.</p>
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		<title>By: Steph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 17:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting, Eszter. 

I couldn’t get through all the comments--why is there so much unwillingness to just say “Wow, I’m sorry to hear that people are such sexist jerks to you.”

Instead the converstaion gets into how to call cashiers and what happens in norway and the south and there’s discussion about these silly side issues.

Sometimes people are just sexist jerks! And that’s interesting and blog-worthy. And I&#039;m sorry to hear about your recent experiences, but thanks very much for bringing them up here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Very interesting, Eszter.</p>

	<p>I couldn&#8217;t get through all the comments&#8212;why is there so much unwillingness to just say &#8220;Wow, I&#8217;m sorry to hear that people are such sexist jerks to you.&#8221;</p>

	<p>Instead the converstaion gets into how to call cashiers and what happens in norway and the south and there&#8217;s discussion about these silly side issues.</p>

	<p>Sometimes people are just sexist jerks! And that&#8217;s interesting and blog-worthy. And I&#8217;m sorry to hear about your recent experiences, but thanks very much for bringing them up here.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny D</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/28/the-mrs/comment-page-3/#comment-146406</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 15:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have endless thoughts on this!  It&#039;s an interesting topic that touches on many important issues about manners, status, gender, etc.

1. I always have a handful of first-year students (disproportionately the product of Catholic schooling!) who call me Mrs. Davidson out of a sense of politeness.  I&#039;m not married, and that&#039;s not my name, but if that&#039;s what makes them comfortable, it&#039;s fine for now, and they will soon pick up the more standard etiquette.

2. I am the product of Quaker education that made me deeply uncomfortable about either calling or being called Professor X.  &quot;Professor Davidson&quot; sounds slightly over-the-top.  I like the full name thing as a way around the whole Europe-US difference, junior-senior, etc.  Yes, it&#039;s slightly stilted, but receiving a professional e-mail (a request for a reader&#039;s report on a manuscript, say) addressed &quot;Dear Jenny Davidson&quot; seems to me the most appropriate out of an awkward lot.

3. I am often mistaken for a graduate student, and once I had a long and interesting conversation with a group of Japanese music grad students at a party (we were all Columbia-affiliated); when (late in the conversation) they realized I was an assistant professor rather than a graduate student, they literally stepped back en masse and _bowed_.  It was an interesting literalization of the kind of manners-shift you often experience when someone--it can be a grad student or a tenured faculty member--realizes they have mistaken your status &amp; wants retroactively to adjust their manners.

I have had several different groups of students, both undergrad and grad, end up calling me &quot;Professor Jenny&quot;!  Which seems to me endearing.

The most important thing here is to guard against our own gender biases.  The thing I hate is seeing, say, a panel of distinguished speakers (a mix of male and female) and the moderator in the discussion period inadvertently referring to the female speakers by their first name and the male ones as Professor X.  This again shows why the full name convention is so useful--if we get in the habit of using it, we are less likely to end up with an awkward revelation in public about our own mental categories.

Sorry to go on so long; you&#039;ve really touched a nerve here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I have endless thoughts on this!  It&#8217;s an interesting topic that touches on many important issues about manners, status, gender, etc.</p>

	<p>1. I always have a handful of first-year students (disproportionately the product of Catholic schooling!) who call me Mrs. Davidson out of a sense of politeness.  I&#8217;m not married, and that&#8217;s not my name, but if that&#8217;s what makes them comfortable, it&#8217;s fine for now, and they will soon pick up the more standard etiquette.</p>

	<p>2. I am the product of Quaker education that made me deeply uncomfortable about either calling or being called Professor X.  &#8220;Professor Davidson&#8221; sounds slightly over-the-top.  I like the full name thing as a way around the whole Europe-US difference, junior-senior, etc.  Yes, it&#8217;s slightly stilted, but receiving a professional e-mail (a request for a reader&#8217;s report on a manuscript, say) addressed &#8220;Dear Jenny Davidson&#8221; seems to me the most appropriate out of an awkward lot.</p>

	<p>3. I am often mistaken for a graduate student, and once I had a long and interesting conversation with a group of Japanese music grad students at a party (we were all Columbia-affiliated); when (late in the conversation) they realized I was an assistant professor rather than a graduate student, they literally stepped back en masse and <em>bowed</em>.  It was an interesting literalization of the kind of manners-shift you often experience when someone&#8212;it can be a grad student or a tenured faculty member&#8212;realizes they have mistaken your status &#038; wants retroactively to adjust their manners.</p>

	<p>I have had several different groups of students, both undergrad and grad, end up calling me &#8220;Professor Jenny&#8221;!  Which seems to me endearing.</p>

	<p>The most important thing here is to guard against our own gender biases.  The thing I hate is seeing, say, a panel of distinguished speakers (a mix of male and female) and the moderator in the discussion period inadvertently referring to the female speakers by their first name and the male ones as Professor X.  This again shows why the full name convention is so useful&#8212;if we get in the habit of using it, we are less likely to end up with an awkward revelation in public about our own mental categories.</p>

	<p>Sorry to go on so long; you&#8217;ve really touched a nerve here.</p>
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		<title>By: ab</title>
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		<dc:creator>ab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...my troubles figuring out who gets “Sehr geehrter Herr Schmidt” and who gets “Lieber Herr Schmidt” in professional settings.&lt;/i&gt;

Which opens up another problem, especially in emails:

&quot;Hi Professor Lastname&quot; (too informal?)
&quot;Dear Firstname&quot; (too intimate?)

Hi (or variations like Hey, Hiya) seems to be the most widespread among my students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>&#8230;my troubles figuring out who gets &#8220;Sehr geehrter Herr Schmidt&#8221; and who gets &#8220;Lieber Herr Schmidt&#8221; in professional settings.</i></p>

	<p>Which opens up another problem, especially in emails:</p>

	<p>&#8220;Hi Professor Lastname&#8221; (too informal?)<br />
&#8220;Dear Firstname&#8221; (too intimate?)</p>

	<p>Hi (or variations like Hey, Hiya) seems to be the most widespread among my students.</p>
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		<title>By: Kath</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/28/the-mrs/comment-page-3/#comment-146369</link>
		<dc:creator>Kath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get this all the time, when male colleagues with less degrees get called &quot;Dr.&quot; But in my case, it&#039;s even more interesting. I kept my family name, so I am married but not a &quot;Mrs.&quot;  Try explaining that sometime in the deep South!!! :)

Does all this title stuff bother me? Sure. But I try to use it as a learning experience. I gently call students on their double standard. Most don&#039;t realize it and so they see -- at least for that moment -- how culture has effected them. Maybe that&#039;s enough - those quiet moments of showing that there&#039;s another way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I get this all the time, when male colleagues with less degrees get called &#8220;Dr.&#8221; But in my case, it&#8217;s even more interesting. I kept my family name, so I am married but not a &#8220;Mrs.&#8221;  Try explaining that sometime in the deep South<img src="!" alt="" border="0" /> :)</p>

	<p>Does all this title stuff bother me? Sure. But I try to use it as a learning experience. I gently call students on their double standard. Most don&#8217;t realize it and so they see&#8212;at least for that moment&#8212;how culture has effected them. Maybe that&#8217;s enough &#8211; those quiet moments of showing that there&#8217;s another way.</p>
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		<title>By: Crooked Timber &#187; &#187; Dress optional</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crooked Timber &#187; &#187; Dress optional</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A propos gender, I wanted to say a few words about some recent photo interests. A few months ago I decided to start taking pictures of gender signs. The most obvious location for these is restroom doors. I haven&#8217;t encountered any awkward situations yet running around public bathrooms snapping photos, but I can imagine eventually I may get some curious glances. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[...] A propos gender, I wanted to say a few words about some recent photo interests. A few months ago I decided to start taking pictures of gender signs. The most obvious location for these is restroom doors. I haven&#8217;t encountered any awkward situations yet running around public bathrooms snapping photos, but I can imagine eventually I may get some curious glances. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/28/the-mrs/comment-page-3/#comment-146358</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 10:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In re: 106, I think that in American usage &quot;Dear Ms. Smith&quot; is the neutral business salutation. I can see people from a non-native English background stumbling a little as they translate (as German from Frau=Mrs and Fräulein=Miss), but it seems the kind of thing one would learn quickly.

On the other hand, perhaps Germans wonder at my troubles figuring out who gets &quot;Sehr geehrter Herr Schmidt&quot; and who gets &quot;Lieber Herr Schmidt&quot; in professional settings. Hmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>In re: 106, I think that in American usage &#8220;Dear Ms. Smith&#8221; is the neutral business salutation. I can see people from a non-native English background stumbling a little as they translate (as German from Frau=Mrs and Fr&#228;ulein=Miss), but it seems the kind of thing one would learn quickly.</p>

	<p>On the other hand, perhaps Germans wonder at my troubles figuring out who gets &#8220;Sehr geehrter Herr Schmidt&#8221; and who gets &#8220;Lieber Herr Schmidt&#8221; in professional settings. Hmm.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 08:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an undergraduate, I (and most of the other students) addressed faculty members as, &quot;Dr. Lastname&quot;.  

When I became a graduate student, I (and all the other grad students) switched to addressing most faculty members by their first names.  To me, at least, this emphasizes the collegial nature of the relationship between faculty and grad students (as opposed to the giver of knowledge/receiver of knowledge relationship between faculty and undergraduates).  

In fact, the only professors I regularly addressed or referred to as &quot;Dr. Lastname&quot; were ones I didn&#039;t like very much.

As a (male) teaching assistant, I&#039;ve never provided my students any guidance on what to call me.  I get addressed as &quot;Professor&quot; or &quot;Professor Lastname&quot; quite a lot, &quot;Dr. Lastname&quot; somnewhat less often, and very occasionally &quot;Mr. Lastname&quot; or Chris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>As an undergraduate, I (and most of the other students) addressed faculty members as, &#8220;Dr. Lastname&#8221;.</p>

	<p>When I became a graduate student, I (and all the other grad students) switched to addressing most faculty members by their first names.  To me, at least, this emphasizes the collegial nature of the relationship between faculty and grad students (as opposed to the giver of knowledge/receiver of knowledge relationship between faculty and undergraduates).</p>

	<p>In fact, the only professors I regularly addressed or referred to as &#8220;Dr. Lastname&#8221; were ones I didn&#8217;t like very much.</p>

	<p>As a (male) teaching assistant, I&#8217;ve never provided my students any guidance on what to call me.  I get addressed as &#8220;Professor&#8221; or &#8220;Professor Lastname&#8221; quite a lot, &#8220;Dr. Lastname&#8221; somnewhat less often, and very occasionally &#8220;Mr. Lastname&#8221; or Chris.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/02/28/the-mrs/comment-page-3/#comment-146353</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 07:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Especially if your students are emailing you from their sexxypantz4701@hotmail.com addresses late at night to ask about stationery supplies.&lt;/i&gt;

&quot;Dear Crooked Timber, I never thought it would happen to me, but late at night while checking the stationary supplies I received an email ...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Especially if your students are emailing you from their <a href="mailto:sexxypantz4701@hotmail.com">sexxypantz4701@hotmail.com</a> addresses late at night to ask about stationery supplies.</i></p>

	<p>&#8220;Dear Crooked Timber, I never thought it would happen to me, but late at night while checking the stationary supplies I received an email &#8230;&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: H. e. baber</title>
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		<dc:creator>H. e. baber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 03:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand the hesitancy of pulling rank. As a woman it&#039;s been tough to get recognition of my position. When I first started teaching , as the only woman in my department, students and people delivering male, invariably took me to be the departmental secretary. Even now I have to fight for all I&#039;m worth not to be ignored, dismissed or patronized.--I need that &quot;Dr.&quot; to be taken seriously, something that might not be so important if I were male, or if I were just taller, slimmer and more &quot;professional-looking.&quot; These professional titles and credentials just provide the bona fides lots of us need so that we don&#039;t have to continually fight to establish outselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I don&#8217;t understand the hesitancy of pulling rank. As a woman it&#8217;s been tough to get recognition of my position. When I first started teaching , as the only woman in my department, students and people delivering male, invariably took me to be the departmental secretary. Even now I have to fight for all I&#8217;m worth not to be ignored, dismissed or patronized.&#8212;I need that &#8220;Dr.&#8221; to be taken seriously, something that might not be so important if I were male, or if I were just taller, slimmer and more &#8220;professional-looking.&#8221; These professional titles and credentials just provide the bona fides lots of us need so that we don&#8217;t have to continually fight to establish outselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Swenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Swenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 03:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy did this one generate a lot of responses. A bit sensitive aren&#039;t we all? When I finished my doctorate, my committee chair, after saying &quot;let me be the first to congratulate you &#039;Doctor&#039;&quot;, suggested that I get one of the other small metal trash cans, put it over my head and yell my new title and name 100 times. &quot;Get it out of your system,&quot; he advised.  Never call  yourself doctor and don&#039;t be upset if don&#039;t.  Life will be a lot happier if you don&#039;t develop &#039;doctor&#039;s&#039; disease. You&#039;re not really that big a deal.&quot;  It was good advice then and it&#039;s good advice now--&quot;Don&#039;t take yourself too damned serious.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Boy did this one generate a lot of responses. A bit sensitive aren&#8217;t we all? When I finished my doctorate, my committee chair, after saying &#8220;let me be the first to congratulate you &#8216;Doctor&#8217;&#8221;, suggested that I get one of the other small metal trash cans, put it over my head and yell my new title and name 100 times. &#8220;Get it out of your system,&#8221; he advised.  Never call  yourself doctor and don&#8217;t be upset if don&#8217;t.  Life will be a lot happier if you don&#8217;t develop &#8216;doctor&#8217;s&#8217; disease. You&#8217;re not really that big a deal.&#8221;  It was good advice then and it&#8217;s good advice now&#8212;&#8221;Don&#8217;t take yourself too damned serious.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: rea</title>
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		<dc:creator>rea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 02:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I use Ms Lastname for any woman with whom I am not on a firstname basis, but for whom I do know the surname she uses—whether or not she is married.&quot;

It could be particularly useful when writing business letters to women of whose marital status you are unaware.  If opposing counsel in a case at law is Emily Smith, does a letter to her begin &quot;Dear Miss Smith&quot;? Or &quot;Dear Mrs. Smith&quot;? Or, neutrally, &quot;Dear Ms. Smith&quot;?  It would be nice to have an established convention for this situation so that one could be sure of not unintentionally giving mortal insult . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;I use Ms Lastname for any woman with whom I am not on a firstname basis, but for whom I do know the surname she uses&#8212;whether or not she is married.&#8221;</p>

	<p>It could be particularly useful when writing business letters to women of whose marital status you are unaware.  If opposing counsel in a case at law is Emily Smith, does a letter to her begin &#8220;Dear Miss Smith&#8221;? Or &#8220;Dear Mrs. Smith&#8221;? Or, neutrally, &#8220;Dear Ms. Smith&#8221;?  It would be nice to have an established convention for this situation so that one could be sure of not unintentionally giving mortal insult . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Michele Tepper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michele Tepper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 02:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a New Yorker, I have to disagree with the contention that the honorific &quot;Mrs&quot; is considered a &quot;slur&quot; here.  Rather I&#039;d say with Bill Hooker that I, and most people I know, would default to &quot;Ms&quot; as a marital-status-neutral term, and find either &quot;Miss&quot; or &quot;Mrs&quot; less appropriate in most instances. (Indeed, even most of the married women I know use their birth names, and so would not be properly called &quot;Mrs&quot; as I understand the title is supposed to be used.)

I will admit, however, that possibly my favorite thing about having a Ph.D. -- besides, of course, the groupies -- is being able to answer questions like &quot;Miss? Mrs?&quot; with &quot;&lt;i&gt;Doctor&lt;/i&gt;.&quot;  It&#039;s the only time I ever use the title.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>As a New Yorker, I have to disagree with the contention that the honorific &#8220;Mrs&#8221; is considered a &#8220;slur&#8221; here.  Rather I&#8217;d say with Bill Hooker that I, and most people I know, would default to &#8220;Ms&#8221; as a marital-status-neutral term, and find either &#8220;Miss&#8221; or &#8220;Mrs&#8221; less appropriate in most instances. (Indeed, even most of the married women I know use their birth names, and so would not be properly called &#8220;Mrs&#8221; as I understand the title is supposed to be used.)</p>

	<p>I will admit, however, that possibly my favorite thing about having a Ph.D.&#8212;besides, of course, the groupies&#8212;is being able to answer questions like &#8220;Miss? Mrs?&#8221; with &#8220;<i>Doctor</i>.&#8221;  It&#8217;s the only time I ever use the title.</p>
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		<title>By: Kath Lowney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kath Lowney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 01:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah -- thanks for writing this. I have it worse -- I am a PhD who kept my own family name, so while I am married, I am not &quot;Mrs.!&quot;  Students get very confused when I cross off the Mrs. yet they know that I am married. 

And yes, male colleagues I know who are not PhDs are always referred to by students as &quot;Dr.&quot; or &quot;Professor&quot; but rarely the women.  

But it&#039;s pretty handy for telemarketers -- I can say that the &quot;Mrs ...&quot; isn&#039;t here and be totally honest!  

It&#039;s frustrating.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ah&#8212;thanks for writing this. I have it worse&#8212;I am a PhD who kept my own family name, so while I am married, I am not &#8220;Mrs.!&#8221;  Students get very confused when I cross off the Mrs. yet they know that I am married.</p>

	<p>And yes, male colleagues I know who are not PhDs are always referred to by students as &#8220;Dr.&#8221; or &#8220;Professor&#8221; but rarely the women.</p>

	<p>But it&#8217;s pretty handy for telemarketers&#8212;I can say that the &#8220;Mrs &#8230;&#8221; isn&#8217;t here and be totally honest!</p>

	<p>It&#8217;s frustrating&#8230;..</p>
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