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		<title>By: Crooked Timber &#187; &#187; March Madness</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/08/adonal-foyle/comment-page-1/#comment-147880</link>
		<dc:creator>Crooked Timber &#187; &#187; March Madness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One report says that &#8220;Albany could receive as much as $800,000 for its first NCAA game, money the school has to share with other members of the America East Conference.&#8221; I have no idea how much of that will stay at Albany. But surely, by far the greatest benefit will be the publicity of making it to the tournament. How many people this week are looking over the brackets in their office pool and seeing the name &#8220;Albany&#8221; for the first time? I am sure that applications will jump. I&#8217;ve seen it happen before &#8211; when my brother decided to go to Colgate. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[...] One report says that &#8220;Albany could receive as much as $800,000 for its first <span class="caps">NCAA</span> game, money the school has to share with other members of the America East Conference.&#8221; I have no idea how much of that will stay at Albany. But surely, by far the greatest benefit will be the publicity of making it to the tournament. How many people this week are looking over the brackets in their office pool and seeing the name &#8220;Albany&#8221; for the first time? I am sure that applications will jump. I&#8217;ve seen it happen before &#8211; when my brother decided to go to Colgate. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/08/adonal-foyle/comment-page-1/#comment-147313</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 03:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adonal also volunteers at many local educational events in Oakland.  Such as family reading night, put on by my former employer, the Oakland Parents Literacy Project, www.oplp.org.

That&#039;s me planting flowers.

Adonal really gets it.

Best,

George</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Adonal also volunteers at many local educational events in Oakland.  Such as family reading night, put on by my former employer, the Oakland Parents Literacy Project, <a href="http://www.oplp.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.oplp.org</a>.</p>

	<p>That&#8217;s me planting flowers.</p>

	<p>Adonal really gets it.</p>

	<p>Best,</p>

	<p>George</p>
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		<title>By: ArC</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/08/adonal-foyle/comment-page-1/#comment-147191</link>
		<dc:creator>ArC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I should say in fairness, as Foyle mentions, that the Nash backlash back in what, 2003, was astounding and it&#039;s easy to understand why players would shy away from politics after seeing that.

(tangentially, I&#039;m sadly quite frequently surprised at how fast and vicious politics can get - Janet Jackson&#039;s Superbowl flap, GTA&#039;s &quot;Hot Coffee&quot; scandal - I thought for sure both of those would die down after a day or two.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I guess I should say in fairness, as Foyle mentions, that the Nash backlash back in what, 2003, was astounding and it&#8217;s easy to understand why players would shy away from politics after seeing that.</p>

	<p>(tangentially, I&#8217;m sadly quite frequently surprised at how fast and vicious politics can get &#8211; Janet Jackson&#8217;s Superbowl flap, <span class="caps">GTA</span>&#8217;s &#8220;Hot Coffee&#8221; scandal &#8211; I thought for sure both of those would die down after a day or two.)</p>
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		<title>By: ArC</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/08/adonal-foyle/comment-page-1/#comment-147190</link>
		<dc:creator>ArC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember reading a few years ago how well thought out Adonal Foyle&#039;s stance was on the Iraq war, but I didn&#039;t realize just how politically active he was.  A huge and very welcome contrast to certain other players *cough* who resolutely practice neutrality strictly to maintain maximum marketability...

(also, I&#039;m very glad C-Span makes transcripts.  I hate watching or listening to clips if a transcript is available.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I remember reading a few years ago how well thought out Adonal Foyle&#8217;s stance was on the Iraq war, but I didn&#8217;t realize just how politically active he was.  A huge and very welcome contrast to certain other players <strong>cough</strong> who resolutely practice neutrality strictly to maintain maximum marketability&#8230;</p>

	<p>(also, I&#8217;m very glad C-Span makes transcripts.  I hate watching or listening to clips if a transcript is available.)</p>
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		<title>By: Cannoneo</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/08/adonal-foyle/comment-page-1/#comment-147144</link>
		<dc:creator>Cannoneo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoah, I&#039;m disoriented; in a matter of minutes, a set of statistics has been replaced by not only a live human being, but a paragon of thoughtful virtue. Until now, Adonal Foyle existed in my mind as that center from Colgate who I had a frustrating fling with early this fantasy season. Frustrating because his game is not stat-driven - he&#039;s good enough to start on many NBA teams, but doesn&#039;t pile up numbers. He plays as part of a team and does those famous intangibles. Little did I know his intangibles go far beyond setting screens, helping out weak side, and making good outlet passes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Whoah, I&#8217;m disoriented; in a matter of minutes, a set of statistics has been replaced by not only a live human being, but a paragon of thoughtful virtue. Until now, Adonal Foyle existed in my mind as that center from Colgate who I had a frustrating fling with early this fantasy season. Frustrating because his game is not stat-driven &#8211; he&#8217;s good enough to start on many <span class="caps">NBA</span> teams, but doesn&#8217;t pile up numbers. He plays as part of a team and does those famous intangibles. Little did I know his intangibles go far beyond setting screens, helping out weak side, and making good outlet passes.</p>
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		<title>By: a fan</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/08/adonal-foyle/comment-page-1/#comment-147103</link>
		<dc:creator>a fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 01:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow is right.  What an intelligent, fun, interesting, talented man.  Years ago I was fortunate enough to meet Jon and Adonal socially when they were in the bay area.  Unfortunately for me I didn&#039;t know what extraordinary individuals Jon and Adonel are.  I regret that I didn&#039;t get to talk with them more.

Jon said something like, &quot;I&#039;d like you to meet my brother&quot; and introduced 6&#039;9&quot; Adonal.  I thought he was pulling my leg.  They must take secret delight in bursting people&#039;s preconceptions.

[BTW, that&#039;s a very cool AJAX-y posting tool on crooked timber!]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Wow is right.  What an intelligent, fun, interesting, talented man.  Years ago I was fortunate enough to meet Jon and Adonal socially when they were in the bay area.  Unfortunately for me I didn&#8217;t know what extraordinary individuals Jon and Adonel are.  I regret that I didn&#8217;t get to talk with them more.</p>

	<p>Jon said something like, &#8220;I&#8217;d like you to meet my brother&#8221; and introduced 6&#8217;9&#8221; Adonal.  I thought he was pulling my leg.  They must take secret delight in bursting people&#8217;s preconceptions.</p>

	<p>[BTW, that&#8217;s a very cool <span class="caps">AJAX</span>-y posting tool on crooked timber!]</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Mandle</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/08/adonal-foyle/comment-page-1/#comment-147102</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Mandle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 01:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Todd - I had forgotten about that piece.
Slocum - Adonal doesn&#039;t necessarily support a proposal just because it is called &quot;campaign finance reform&quot;. Democracy Matters doesn&#039;t have a party line that all members must adhere to. In fact, there is real disagreement among members about what kinds of reform efforts to support. Nonetheless, it&#039;s fair to say that their typical focus is on promoting &quot;clean elections&quot; in which candidates voluntarily limit private donations in exchange for public support. There are obviously many possible variations, and I&#039;d suggest looking at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.democracymatters.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Democracy Matters website&lt;/a&gt; for lots more information and discussion of some of these proposals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thanks, Todd &#8211; I had forgotten about that piece.<br />
Slocum &#8211; Adonal doesn&#8217;t necessarily support a proposal just because it is called &#8220;campaign finance reform&#8221;. Democracy Matters doesn&#8217;t have a party line that all members must adhere to. In fact, there is real disagreement among members about what kinds of reform efforts to support. Nonetheless, it&#8217;s fair to say that their typical focus is on promoting &#8220;clean elections&#8221; in which candidates voluntarily limit private donations in exchange for public support. There are obviously many possible variations, and I&#8217;d suggest looking at the <a href="http://www.democracymatters.org/" rel="nofollow">Democracy Matters website</a> for lots more information and discussion of some of these proposals.</p>
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		<title>By: Slocum</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/08/adonal-foyle/comment-page-1/#comment-147094</link>
		<dc:creator>Slocum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 22:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like a great guy.  If only his organization were fighting for something other than campaign finance reform--which has, in my view, resulted in appalling, indefensible restrictions on freedom of political speech (Laws against mentioning candidates by name?!?  Near an election?!?  WTF?!?  And that&#039;s not to mention the possibility of regulating political speech on blogs).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Sounds like a great guy.  If only his organization were fighting for something other than campaign finance reform&#8212;which has, in my view, resulted in appalling, indefensible restrictions on freedom of political speech (Laws against mentioning candidates by name?!?  Near an election?!?  <span class="caps">WTF</span>?!?  And that&#8217;s not to mention the possibility of regulating political speech on blogs).</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Schmitt</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/08/adonal-foyle/comment-page-1/#comment-147069</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Schmitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 17:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful post. I&#039;ve been very fortunate to be able to watch Democracy Matters develop and really catch on on campuses. It&#039;s such a wonderful model for what an athlete can do that&#039;s real and aims for big structural change, vs. feel-good philanthropy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Wonderful post. I&#8217;ve been very fortunate to be able to watch Democracy Matters develop and really catch on on campuses. It&#8217;s such a wonderful model for what an athlete can do that&#8217;s real and aims for big structural change, vs. feel-good philanthropy.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 16:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s awesome. I was just trying to convince a friend to add Foyle to his fantasy basketball team, because he&#039;s hurting for rebounds. I personally have been a huge fan since &lt;a href=&quot;http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:m_kq7dSBD70J:espn.go.com/page2/s/neel/030421.html+%22eric+neel%22+%22adonal+foyle%22&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=us&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=1&amp;client=firefox-a&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; Eric Neel piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>That&#8217;s awesome. I was just trying to convince a friend to add Foyle to his fantasy basketball team, because he&#8217;s hurting for rebounds. I personally have been a huge fan since <a href="http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:m_kq7dSBD70J:espn.go.com/page2/s/neel/030421.html+%22eric+neel%22+%22adonal+foyle%22&#038;hl=en&#038;gl=us&#038;ct=clnk&#038;cd=1&#038;client=firefox-a" rel="nofollow">this</a> Eric Neel piece.</p>
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		<title>By: Cryptic Ned</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cryptic Ned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 14:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!

I didn&#039;t realize he&#039;d been on the Warriors for his whole career.  It seems like the rare thoughtful pro sports player is much more likely to want to stay in one place during his career, rather than compete for the highest salaries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Wow!</p>

	<p>I didn&#8217;t realize he&#8217;d been on the Warriors for his whole career.  It seems like the rare thoughtful pro sports player is much more likely to want to stay in one place during his career, rather than compete for the highest salaries.</p>
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