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	<description>Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made</description>
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		<title>By: arthur</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/09/credible-sources/comment-page-1/#comment-147263</link>
		<dc:creator>arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 20:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Start with the proposition that all variable activities must happen more at one time than at another.   I don&#039;t understand why it concerns the AMA that drinking and sex happen more on vacation than during class times.  Don&#039;t most professors prefer students to concentrte tehir soobriety during the school year?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Start with the proposition that all variable activities must happen more at one time than at another.   I don&#8217;t understand why it concerns the <span class="caps">AMA</span> that drinking and sex happen more on vacation than during class times.  Don&#8217;t most professors prefer students to concentrte tehir soobriety during the school year?</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/09/credible-sources/comment-page-1/#comment-147251</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 18:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Other parental fears that “some kids” strenuously call overblown&lt;/i&gt;

I apologize if I&#039;m misreading you, Kieran, but it sounds as though you think that parents are right to be seriously concerned about this issue and young people are self-interested and misguided when they say parents&#039; fears are overblown.

With all due respect, I very much disagree. Teaching your child to be wary online is a great idea. Believing that evil predators are very likely to successfully entrap your child, &lt;b&gt;especially&lt;/b&gt; without a lot of progressively stupider decisions on the child&#039;s part (revealing a last name, agreeing to meet in person) is not consistent with reported crime rates.

Emotionally speaking, this a frequency/intensity problem. True, if something happens, it&#039;s awful. No one would wish it on any child. But the frequency with which something like this happens - especially without a heck of a lot of warning signs in advance - is extremely low. 

Here&#039;s an analogy: Would I be worried about letting a child fly alone on a commercial flight? Sure. Do I understand that that child has a much, MUCH greater chance of serious injury or death just by riding around in car, especially without good seatbelt habits? Yes. Moral: Teaching kids to be cautious = good; teaching them to accurately assess risk = equally good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Other parental fears that &#8220;some kids&#8221; strenuously call overblown</i></p>

	<p>I apologize if I&#8217;m misreading you, Kieran, but it sounds as though you think that parents are right to be seriously concerned about this issue and young people are self-interested and misguided when they say parents&#8217; fears are overblown.</p>

	<p>With all due respect, I very much disagree. Teaching your child to be wary online is a great idea. Believing that evil predators are very likely to successfully entrap your child, <b>especially</b> without a lot of progressively stupider decisions on the child&#8217;s part (revealing a last name, agreeing to meet in person) is not consistent with reported crime rates.</p>

	<p>Emotionally speaking, this a frequency/intensity problem. True, if something happens, it&#8217;s awful. No one would wish it on any child. But the frequency with which something like this happens &#8211; especially without a heck of a lot of warning signs in advance &#8211; is extremely low.</p>

	<p>Here&#8217;s an analogy: Would I be worried about letting a child fly alone on a commercial flight? Sure. Do I understand that that child has a much, <span class="caps">MUCH</span> greater chance of serious injury or death just by riding around in car, especially without good seatbelt habits? Yes. Moral: Teaching kids to be cautious = good; teaching them to accurately assess risk = equally good.</p>
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		<title>By: blah</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/09/credible-sources/comment-page-1/#comment-147248</link>
		<dc:creator>blah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 18:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In other news, the DOJ has warned men not to put roofies in women&#039;s drinks.  The men might be tempted to rape the unconscious women, thereby putting themselves at risk for criminal prosecution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>In other news, the <span class="caps">DOJ</span> has warned men not to put roofies in women&#8217;s drinks.  The men might be tempted to rape the unconscious women, thereby putting themselves at risk for criminal prosecution.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbar</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/09/credible-sources/comment-page-1/#comment-147244</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 18:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like good reasons to warn men about drinking -- it brings out their inner predator and increases the odds that they&#039;ll get an STD or impregnate someone.  Have they been told?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Sounds like good reasons to warn men about drinking&#8212;it brings out their inner predator and increases the odds that they&#8217;ll get an <span class="caps">STD</span> or impregnate someone.  Have they been told?</p>
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		<title>By: blah</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/09/credible-sources/comment-page-1/#comment-147234</link>
		<dc:creator>blah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Among men, research indicates that greater alcohol use is related to greater sexual aggression (12). Sixty-seven percent of the male sexual aggressors at one university, as well as about 50 percent of female victims, had been drinking at the time of the sexual assault or other incident of victimization (13). Binge drinkers appear to engage in more unplanned sexual activity and to abandon safe sex techniques more often than students who do not binge drink (3).&lt;/i&gt;

http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/aa29.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Among men, research indicates that greater alcohol use is related to greater sexual aggression (12). Sixty-seven percent of the male sexual aggressors at one university, as well as about 50 percent of female victims, had been drinking at the time of the sexual assault or other incident of victimization (13). Binge drinkers appear to engage in more unplanned sexual activity and to abandon safe sex techniques more often than students who do not binge drink (3).</i></p>

	<p><a href="http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/aa29.htm" rel="nofollow">http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/aa29.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/09/credible-sources/comment-page-1/#comment-147232</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The assumption isn&#039;t that girls are bad, boys are innocent, but (and this is just as harmful) that girls are innocent, boys are incorrigible.  

But barry&#039;s comment was still kinda funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The assumption isn&#8217;t that girls are bad, boys are innocent, but (and this is just as harmful) that girls are innocent, boys are incorrigible.</p>

	<p>But barry&#8217;s comment was still kinda funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbar</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/09/credible-sources/comment-page-1/#comment-147231</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More sexual activity among women ==&gt; greater chance of rape.

And walk around in a short little miniskirt... &lt;i&gt;well, what do you think was going to happen?&lt;/i&gt;

Uh huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>More sexual activity among women ==> greater chance of rape.</p>

	<p>And walk around in a short little miniskirt&#8230; <i>well, what do you think was going to happen?</i></p>

	<p>Uh huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Western Dave</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/09/credible-sources/comment-page-1/#comment-147223</link>
		<dc:creator>Western Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 16:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When guys getting date raped by girls is as big a problem as girls getting date raped by boys, some of the snark in the comments thus far might actually be funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>When guys getting date raped by girls is as big a problem as girls getting date raped by boys, some of the snark in the comments thus far might actually be funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/09/credible-sources/comment-page-1/#comment-147205</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Auderey, if the poor, innocent young men come within the grasp of those Evul Coeds, they can&#039;t be held responsible for their actions, can they?  Some innocent young All-American Boy walks into what he thought was a restaurant, sees what he thought was a bunch of poor women (they couldn&#039;t even afford modest clothing!), and was offered what he was told was an innocent American drink - iced tea, like back in good ol&#039; Long Island.

Then he wakes up, days later, in a motel room, surrounded by these Evul Coeds - couldn&#039;t be his fault, could it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well, Auderey, if the poor, innocent young men come within the grasp of those Evul Coeds, they can&#8217;t be held responsible for their actions, can they?  Some innocent young All-American Boy walks into what he thought was a restaurant, sees what he thought was a bunch of poor women (they couldn&#8217;t even afford modest clothing!), and was offered what he was told was an innocent American drink &#8211; iced tea, like back in good ol&#8217; Long Island.</p>

	<p>Then he wakes up, days later, in a motel room, surrounded by these Evul Coeds &#8211; couldn&#8217;t be his fault, could it?</p>
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		<title>By: auderey</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/09/credible-sources/comment-page-1/#comment-147201</link>
		<dc:creator>auderey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice how they&#039;re warning *girls* not to drink and have sex, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Nice how they&#8217;re warning <strong>girls</strong> not to drink and have sex, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: ajay</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/09/credible-sources/comment-page-1/#comment-147188</link>
		<dc:creator>ajay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point was made elsewhere that the AMA survey asked not about &quot;heavy&quot; but &quot;heavier than usual&quot; drinking and shagging. Presumably the rest of the sample are like that &lt;i&gt;all the time&lt;/i&gt; (medical students...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The point was made elsewhere that the <span class="caps">AMA</span> survey asked not about &#8220;heavy&#8221; but &#8220;heavier than usual&#8221; drinking and shagging. Presumably the rest of the sample are like that <i>all the time</i> (medical students&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: theogon</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/09/credible-sources/comment-page-1/#comment-147181</link>
		<dc:creator>theogon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 07:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only 83/74?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Only 83/74?</p>
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		<title>By: Omri</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/09/credible-sources/comment-page-1/#comment-147179</link>
		<dc:creator>Omri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 06:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moralists are far less grating when they cite the Bible instead of citing statistics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Moralists are far less grating when they cite the Bible instead of citing statistics.</p>
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