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		<title>By: shystee</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/23/soccer-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-149598</link>
		<dc:creator>shystee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That soccer hooligan map is awesome.  Good to see Umbria is still lefty.  

Updates on the election: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.correntewire.com/electronic_voting_fraud_italian_style&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Electronic Voting Fraud, Italian Style&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>That soccer hooligan map is awesome.  Good to see Umbria is still lefty.</p>

	<p>Updates on the election: <a href="http://www.correntewire.com/electronic_voting_fraud_italian_style" rel="nofollow">Electronic Voting Fraud, Italian Style</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Grand Moff Texan</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/23/soccer-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-149317</link>
		<dc:creator>Grand Moff Texan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, not a staffer, it was Congressman Jim McDermott. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Sorry, not a staffer, it was Congressman Jim McDermott.<br />
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		<title>By: Grand Moff Texan</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/23/soccer-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-149316</link>
		<dc:creator>Grand Moff Texan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the stench of desperation from him and his supporters reeks so strongly as to be nearly tangible&lt;/i&gt; 

A couple of weeks ago I was told by a congressional staffer about his being used as a prop, along with other staffers, in a faux &quot;joint session of Congress,&quot; where Berlusconi spoke without a translator and the largely uncomprehending &quot;audience&quot; responded to prompts to applaud and stand and applaud.  

It was filmed.  

The next day, on Berlusconi-owned TV stations, the &quot;joint session&quot; was shown with &quot;reporters&quot; gushing over the record number of standing ovations, the most ever for a foreign dignitary at a &quot;joint session of Congress.&quot;  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>the stench of desperation from him and his supporters reeks so strongly as to be nearly tangible</i></p>

	<p>A couple of weeks ago I was told by a congressional staffer about his being used as a prop, along with other staffers, in a faux &#8220;joint session of Congress,&#8221; where Berlusconi spoke without a translator and the largely uncomprehending &#8220;audience&#8221; responded to prompts to applaud and stand and applaud.</p>

	<p>It was filmed.</p>

	<p>The next day, on Berlusconi-owned TV stations, the &#8220;joint session&#8221; was shown with &#8220;reporters&#8221; gushing over the record number of standing ovations, the most ever for a foreign dignitary at a &#8220;joint session of Congress.&#8221;<br />
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		<title>By: Sind wir noch brauchbar? &#187; The sort of reason, if you&#8217;re a twat, to yearn for higher office</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/23/soccer-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-149275</link>
		<dc:creator>Sind wir noch brauchbar? &#187; The sort of reason, if you&#8217;re a twat, to yearn for higher office</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Don&#8217;t bend over when Silvio Berlusconi is around (hoax?) [VIA] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[...] Don&#8217;t bend over when Silvio Berlusconi is around (hoax?) [VIA] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Wolfe</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/23/soccer-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-149246</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander Wolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 03:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s very interesting. Would anyone argue that the same dynamic exists for supporters of American sports? Certainly it doesn&#039;t exist among American soccer fans, though they do very in intelligence from an average low (Columbus Crew fans) to an average high (FC Dallas fans.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>That&#8217;s very interesting. Would anyone argue that the same dynamic exists for supporters of American sports? Certainly it doesn&#8217;t exist among American soccer fans, though they do very in intelligence from an average low (Columbus Crew fans) to an average high (FC Dallas fans.)</p>
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		<title>By: Vance Maverick</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/23/soccer-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-149224</link>
		<dc:creator>Vance Maverick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 01:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;squadre a rischio secondo la polizia&quot; = &quot;teams at risk according to the police&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;squadre a rischio secondo la polizia&#8221; = &#8220;teams at risk according to the police&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/23/soccer-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-149221</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I guess my days as an Inter supporter are through . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well I guess my days as an Inter supporter are through . . .</p>
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		<title>By: ogmb</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/23/soccer-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-149177</link>
		<dc:creator>ogmb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure if this is a hoax, but it seems like Silvio has devised a strategy to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.break.com/index/primeminister.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;improve&lt;/a&gt; his image with the public.

[SFW, but barely so.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Not sure if this is a hoax, but it seems like Silvio has devised a strategy to <a href="http://www.break.com/index/primeminister.html" rel="nofollow">improve</a> his image with the public.</p>

	<p>[SFW, but barely so.]</p>
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		<title>By: DC</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/23/soccer-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-149163</link>
		<dc:creator>DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Silvio quote is remarkably like Tricky&#039;s self-pitying &quot;you won&#039;t have Nixon to kick around anymore&quot; press conference. Must sense defeat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>That Silvio quote is remarkably like Tricky&#8217;s self-pitying &#8220;you won&#8217;t have Nixon to kick around anymore&#8221; press conference. Must sense defeat.</p>
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		<title>By: P O'Neill</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/23/soccer-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-149159</link>
		<dc:creator>P O'Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone know if it&#039;s an actual fact that divisions within fans of a given team tend to be more severe in continental Europe than in Britain?  That&#039;s certainly the impression one gets in coverage of trouble at matches e.g. in France, where the PSG toughs in the stands seem to spend most of their time fighting each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Anyone know if it&#8217;s an actual fact that divisions within fans of a given team tend to be more severe in continental Europe than in Britain?  That&#8217;s certainly the impression one gets in coverage of trouble at matches e.g. in France, where the <span class="caps">PSG</span> toughs in the stands seem to spend most of their time fighting each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Backword Dave</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/23/soccer-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-149151</link>
		<dc:creator>Backword Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good grief: according his &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silvio_Berlusconi&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wikipedia entry&lt;/a&gt;, Berlusconi &quot;is the founder and principal shareholder of Fininvest, the second largest Italian corporation (after Fiat), which deals in media and financial business and, most notably, comprises three national TV channels. Together these account for nearly half the Italian TV market.&quot; 

&quot;[S]ome good soul in the media world, out of pity ... &quot; Forsooth!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Good grief: according his <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silvio_Berlusconi" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia entry</a>, Berlusconi &#8220;is the founder and principal shareholder of Fininvest, the second largest Italian corporation (after Fiat), which deals in media and financial business and, most notably, comprises three national TV channels. Together these account for nearly half the Italian TV market.&#8221;</p>

	<p>&#8220;[S]ome good soul in the media world, out of pity &#8230; &#8221; Forsooth!</p>
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		<title>By: dmm</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/03/23/soccer-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-149148</link>
		<dc:creator>dmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intersting that Berlusconi&#039;s AC Milan has a far-left supporters group but no far-right group.  All of Milan&#039;s far right groups seem to prefer Inter.

Also, what does &quot;squadre a rischio secondo la polizia&quot; mean?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Intersting that Berlusconi&#8217;s <span class="caps">AC </span>Milan has a far-left supporters group but no far-right group.  All of Milan&#8217;s far right groups seem to prefer Inter.</p>

	<p>Also, what does &#8220;squadre a rischio secondo la polizia&#8221; mean?</p>
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