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		<title>By: Clark</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/04/03/lost-in-translation-2/comment-page-1/#comment-150656</link>
		<dc:creator>Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 05:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought parts of Twin Peak&#039;s second season were genius.  I can&#039;t wait for the DVD of the second season.  The problem was that in the second season between the solving of Laura Palmer&#039;s death until say the white lodge got going it was a bit muddled.  But I maintain that Lynch&#039;s send up of the show in the final episode was spectacular.  I still kind of dug Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me as well.  It was originally going to be a ABC movie of the week, if you can believe it.  They had plans for four Twin Peaks movies.  But clearly no one cared by then.  I think the backlash against the movie was unfortunate as it still really creeps me out when I see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I thought parts of Twin Peak&#8217;s second season were genius.  I can&#8217;t wait for the <span class="caps">DVD</span> of the second season.  The problem was that in the second season between the solving of Laura Palmer&#8217;s death until say the white lodge got going it was a bit muddled.  But I maintain that Lynch&#8217;s send up of the show in the final episode was spectacular.  I still kind of dug Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me as well.  It was originally going to be a <span class="caps">ABC</span> movie of the week, if you can believe it.  They had plans for four Twin Peaks movies.  But clearly no one cared by then.  I think the backlash against the movie was unfortunate as it still really creeps me out when I see it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/04/03/lost-in-translation-2/comment-page-1/#comment-150630</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 20:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually thought &lt;em&gt;Twin Peaks&lt;/em&gt; got better in the second season. That it didn&#039;t is rather conventional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I actually thought <em>Twin Peaks</em> got better in the second season. That it didn&#8217;t is rather conventional.</p>
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		<title>By: wcw</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/04/03/lost-in-translation-2/comment-page-1/#comment-150627</link>
		<dc:creator>wcw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 19:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and: second the Magus sighting.  Unfortunately, Lost&#039;s writers are nowhere near as good as Fowles was.  I wouldn&#039;t mind seeing the Magus serialized with similar production values and pacing to Lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oh, and: second the Magus sighting.  Unfortunately, Lost&#8217;s writers are nowhere near as good as Fowles was.  I wouldn&#8217;t mind seeing the Magus serialized with similar production values and pacing to Lost.</p>
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		<title>By: wcw</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/04/03/lost-in-translation-2/comment-page-1/#comment-150626</link>
		<dc:creator>wcw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 19:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lived without the X-Files, but my wife likes Lost, so I watch.  I&#039;d say it did start of reasonably well given it was a gimmicky soap-operatic setup from the start, but has foundered on the shoals of what I call &quot;Nowhere Boy&quot; disease.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112104/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nowhere Man&lt;/a&gt; was another solve-the-mystery show that started off well.  However, it&#039;s just a lot more difficult to start resolving little bits of the mystery while continuing to spin it out with good writing, and as the producers tried to turn the show its charm spun off and it became very, very bad (see also Peaks, Twin).

In this sort of serial, it&#039;s my contention that the *less* you try to &quot;resolve&quot; the better.  Viz &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0319969/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Carnivale&lt;/a&gt;, in which the best episodes (imho) were the ones after which my wife asked me, &quot;did anything actually happen?&quot;

To my mind an unresolved mystery is an ideal canvas onto which to project.  Plot just muddies things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I lived without the X-Files, but my wife likes Lost, so I watch.  I&#8217;d say it did start of reasonably well given it was a gimmicky soap-operatic setup from the start, but has foundered on the shoals of what I call &#8220;Nowhere Boy&#8221; disease.  <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112104/" rel="nofollow">Nowhere Man</a> was another solve-the-mystery show that started off well.  However, it&#8217;s just a lot more difficult to start resolving little bits of the mystery while continuing to spin it out with good writing, and as the producers tried to turn the show its charm spun off and it became very, very bad (see also Peaks, Twin).</p>

	<p>In this sort of serial, it&#8217;s my contention that the <strong>less</strong> you try to &#8220;resolve&#8221; the better.  Viz <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0319969/" rel="nofollow">Carnivale</a>, in which the best episodes (imho) were the ones after which my wife asked me, &#8220;did anything actually happen?&#8221;</p>

	<p>To my mind an unresolved mystery is an ideal canvas onto which to project.  Plot just muddies things.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/04/03/lost-in-translation-2/comment-page-1/#comment-150625</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 19:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re all kinds of things you could look at. &lt;em&gt;The Invention of Morel&lt;/em&gt; is one of my favorites, and you might could see elements of &lt;em&gt;The Magus&lt;/em&gt; there if you squinted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>They&#8217;re all kinds of things you could look at. <em>The Invention of Morel</em> is one of my favorites, and you might could see elements of <em>The Magus</em> there if you squinted.</p>
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		<title>By: Anarch</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/04/03/lost-in-translation-2/comment-page-1/#comment-150609</link>
		<dc:creator>Anarch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 16:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;doctor slack – I too fear an X-files denouement.&lt;/i&gt;

If you&#039;re just talking the X-Files up to the movie, I&#039;ve gotta disagree: Chris Carter et al. flew by the seat of their pants, but it all hung together modulo the leeway you have to give shows of that type.  If you&#039;re talking post-movie X-Files... well, you&#039;re talking about a show I never saw (that&#039;s my story and I&#039;m sticking to it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>doctor slack &#8211; I too fear an X-files denouement.</i></p>

	<p>If you&#8217;re just talking the X-Files up to the movie, I&#8217;ve gotta disagree: Chris Carter et al. flew by the seat of their pants, but it all hung together modulo the leeway you have to give shows of that type.  If you&#8217;re talking post-movie X-Files&#8230; well, you&#8217;re talking about a show I never saw (that&#8217;s my story and I&#8217;m sticking to it).</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Slack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctor Slack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 15:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Verne’s done it in his Mysterious Island – what, about 150 years ago?&lt;/i&gt;

Oh, God, I hope Captain Nemo doesn&#039;t turn out to be the explanation for everything!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Verne&#8217;s done it in his Mysterious Island &#8211; what, about 150 years ago?</i></p>

	<p>Oh, God, I hope Captain Nemo doesn&#8217;t turn out to be the explanation for everything!</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/04/03/lost-in-translation-2/comment-page-1/#comment-150600</link>
		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 15:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...some kind of coherent ending...&lt;/i&gt;

Well, nothing new to invent here; Verne&#039;s done it in his Mysterious Island - what, about 150 years ago?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>&#8230;some kind of coherent ending&#8230;</i></p>

	<p>Well, nothing new to invent here; Verne&#8217;s done it in his Mysterious Island &#8211; what, about 150 years ago?</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Slack</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/04/03/lost-in-translation-2/comment-page-1/#comment-150596</link>
		<dc:creator>Doctor Slack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 14:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Judging by a couple of episodes I saw, their problem is exactly the lack of X-Files stuff. &lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, the soapy stuff doesn&#039;t help either. But I think what reminds me of the X-Files is more the hope that&#039;s held out, what with all the interconnections and Weird Coincidences and so on, of some kind of coherent ending -- that &quot;the truth is out there&quot; as it were. Boy, can that go &lt;a href=&quot;http://goodbadugly.coldfusionvideo.com/xfilesfinale.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wrong&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Judging by a couple of episodes I saw, their problem is exactly the lack of X-Files stuff. </i></p>

	<p>Yeah, the soapy stuff doesn&#8217;t help either. But I think what reminds me of the X-Files is more the hope that&#8217;s held out, what with all the interconnections and Weird Coincidences and so on, of some kind of coherent ending&#8212;that &#8220;the truth is out there&#8221; as it were. Boy, can that go <a href="http://goodbadugly.coldfusionvideo.com/xfilesfinale.html" rel="nofollow">wrong</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 14:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>james is right - but the reference isn&#039;t to Browne himself; rather to Borges&#039; reference to Browne in &quot;Tlon, Uqbar ...&quot; Pedant that I am, I actually checked the spelling in the original Spanish of Borges&#039; story before posting, and Borges goes for the modernized spelling. I&#039;m a fan of Browne - I believe I had occasion to cite to _Pseudoxia Epidemica_ early in the history of this blog, although I&#039;ll confess that the mixture of Latinate prose and obscure reasoning in some of his theological writings puts it well beyond my grasp.

doctor slack - I too fear an X-files denouement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>james is right &#8211; but the reference isn&#8217;t to Browne himself; rather to Borges&#8217; reference to Browne in &#8220;Tlon, Uqbar &#8230;&#8221; Pedant that I am, I actually checked the spelling in the original Spanish of Borges&#8217; story before posting, and Borges goes for the modernized spelling. I&#8217;m a fan of Browne &#8211; I believe I had occasion to cite to <em>Pseudoxia Epidemica</em> early in the history of this blog, although I&#8217;ll confess that the mixture of Latinate prose and obscure reasoning in some of his theological writings puts it well beyond my grasp.</p>

	<p>doctor slack &#8211; I too fear an X-files denouement.</p>
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		<title>By: Luis Villa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luis Villa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 11:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They mean &#039;see the ways in which Lost&#039;s fiction and Lost&#039;s marketing have collided&#039;, right? I mean, the book does have a big Lost logo on the cover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>They mean &#8216;see the ways in which Lost&#8217;s fiction and Lost&#8217;s marketing have collided&#8217;, right? I mean, the book does have a big Lost logo on the cover.</p>
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		<title>By: James Wimberley</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Wimberley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 11:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was &lt;i&gt;Urne-Buriall&lt;/i&gt;. Browne is an author you have to sip slowly, neat and unpasteurised.
Is Henry going to take up Sir Thomas&#039; epistemic challenge? &quot;What Song the &lt;i&gt;Syrens&lt;/i&gt; sang, or what name &lt;i&gt;Achilles&lt;/i&gt; used when he hid himself among women, though puzling Questions are not beyond all conjecture.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It was <i>Urne-Buriall</i>. Browne is an author you have to sip slowly, neat and unpasteurised.<br />
Is Henry going to take up Sir Thomas&#8217; epistemic challenge? &#8220;What Song the <i>Syrens</i> sang, or what name <i>Achilles</i> used when he hid himself among women, though puzling Questions are not beyond all conjecture.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: pyrator</title>
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		<dc:creator>pyrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 09:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who has watched &#039;Lost&#039; regularly since it began, and have invested so much time in watching it and getting to know the characters, I desperately want some form of sensible &#039;closure&#039; and not a soap opera that tries to continue on for 10 seasons or so. 
But hey that&#039;s not in the best interests necessarily of the producers. I just hope they get lots of hate mail if it&#039;s canned before they give us a sensible conclusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>As someone who has watched &#8216;Lost&#8217; regularly since it began, and have invested so much time in watching it and getting to know the characters, I desperately want some form of sensible &#8216;closure&#8217; and not a soap opera that tries to continue on for 10 seasons or so.<br />
But hey that&#8217;s not in the best interests necessarily of the producers. I just hope they get lots of hate mail if it&#8217;s canned before they give us a sensible conclusion.</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
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		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 07:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judging by a couple of episodes I saw, their problem is exactly the &lt;i&gt;lack&lt;/i&gt; of X-Files stuff. Their flash-backs are the most vile example of the day-time soap crap that has no place at prime-time and should be banned from appearing on TV after 6pm. Sneaky bastards. If I had to choose, I&#039;d take any X-Files spoof over Bold And Beautiful any time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Judging by a couple of episodes I saw, their problem is exactly the <i>lack</i> of X-Files stuff. Their flash-backs are the most vile example of the day-time soap crap that has no place at prime-time and should be banned from appearing on TV after 6pm. Sneaky bastards. If I had to choose, I&#8217;d take any X-Files spoof over Bold And Beautiful any time.</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Slack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctor Slack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 02:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting that Hill seems to regard as a feature, rather than a defect, the sense that the series&#039; writers haven&#039;t the slightest clue where they&#039;re going or if a tenth of the intricate details and subplots even lead anywhere at all. The whole thing reminds me uncomfortably of the &lt;i&gt;X-Files&lt;/i&gt; for some reason, and that kind of dampens my enthusiasm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It&#8217;s interesting that Hill seems to regard as a feature, rather than a defect, the sense that the series&#8217; writers haven&#8217;t the slightest clue where they&#8217;re going or if a tenth of the intricate details and subplots even lead anywhere at all. The whole thing reminds me uncomfortably of the <i>X-Files</i> for some reason, and that kind of dampens my enthusiasm.</p>
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