Comments on: And how will they be marketing this in Ireland?

By: vivian

vivian — Fri, 07 Apr 2006 01:54:45 +0000

re 49: Toscanini’s Guinness ice cream was (is) strikingly good! And Ben and Jerry said that Tosci’s was their favorite micro-ice-cream (micro-freeze?) maker. My favorites were Cardamom-ginger, khulfee, and anything with hazelnut. And the hot vanilla, mmm. Yours?

By: st

st — Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:34:57 +0000

er…tonguelashing

By: st

st — Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:34:03 +0000

I dunno – when I lived in Dublin, I got a bit of a toungelashing when I tried to order one from a bartender in temple bar that I musn’t call it a black and tan, that’s what the bloody brits called it, and if I wanted to drink like a brit I could f**k off on back to britain. If I wanted an affanaff, well, then, that’s a fine Irish drink and a different thing altogether, now.

By: Mrs. Coulter

Mrs. Coulter — Thu, 06 Apr 2006 15:19:12 +0000

Toscanini’s in Cambridge, MA used to have Guinness ice cream on their flavor rotation. I never tried it (I was partial to espresso mixed with sweet cream, which approximates the flavor of a latte), but friends thought it was quite good.

By: save_the_rustbelt

save_the_rustbelt — Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:30:27 +0000

“B+J is referring to the ‘Black and Tan Sundae’. ‘Sundae’ is a concoction of ice cream and flavored syrup, usually also with nuts, whipped cream, and a cherry available all over the USA, particularly in ice cream parlors. (I do not know whether sundaes exist elsewhere in the world, it is definitely an American invention.)”

That sounds much preferably to smelly dogs that howl all the time.

By: save_the_rustbelt

save_the_rustbelt — Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:28:44 +0000

“A breed of what hunting dogs? No, you’re right. That doesn’t translate well overseas at all.”

Dogs that hunt racoons – run them up trees and etc. Sort of a rural thing.

By: ajay

ajay — Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:48:33 +0000

Oh, coon = raccoon. I see. That’s really not an abbreviation you want to use in the UK. Trust me on this.

Is calling a drink a “Belfast Car Bomb” worse than calling one a B-52?

By: winna

winna — Thu, 06 Apr 2006 03:19:29 +0000

Black and tans are raccoon hunting dogs.

One goes out into the woods with a pack of large dogs that make long vowel sounds and wait until the dogs corner a raccoon in a tree. Then you follow the sound of the baying dogs and shoot the raccoon. This is, of course, if the dogs didn’t catch the raccoon before the tree, which results in shredded bits of raccoon everywhere. See also: Where the Red Fern Grows.

The dogs are lovely floppy-eared sleepy hounds with musical voices (although should your neighbors hear them at night they would probably disagree) but I always thought raccoon hunting was another thing that was best dismissed with Oscar Wilde’s quip.

By: P O'Neill

P O'Neill — Thu, 06 Apr 2006 01:57:07 +0000

So the American and Australian use probably does comes from Eire.

AAAARRRGGGGHHHH! But that’s another thread entirely.

By: a different chris

a different chris — Thu, 06 Apr 2006 01:54:27 +0000

>Searched on beer advocate.com, and there are at least 110 chocolate stouts and porters out there.

Oh god. What have we done?

Yuengling’s Black & Tan is good stuff. From the website (hey they’re a brewery, not a historical resource so YMMV):

“We proudly feature this traditional English, 18th century blend of Porter and beer, historically referred to as “Half and Half” or “Black and Tan”.

I have some vague memory that back then there was actally a commercial reason for mixing them, but damned if I can imagine what it could have possibly been.

This:

http://www.ivo.se/guinness/bnt.html

seems to imply that the Irish know that it’s a beer.

And, to back up my bud save-the-rustbelt:

http://www.abtcc.com/

By: jamesonandwater

jamesonandwater — Thu, 06 Apr 2006 01:50:36 +0000

“Black and tan” the drink does exist in Ireland but in 6 years bartending in Dublin I’d say I served a total of about five of them. At most. Smithwicks is bad enough by itself, let alone creating some sort of diluted Guinness with it. And I agree with Marc above, wry smile and a snort would probably be the extent of the reaction to the Ben & Jerrys at home. We’re not big ice cream eaters anyway, are we?

By: derrida derider

derrida derider — Thu, 06 Apr 2006 00:37:58 +0000

Well, Kieran, my very Irish cousin by marriage says he knew what a B&T was back in Co. Kerry, though it was a drink that was kinda looked down on there. So the American and Australian use probably does comes from Eire.

By: will u.

will u. — Wed, 05 Apr 2006 23:03:42 +0000

Re #21, here’s The Onion:

“German Luftwaffle Chain Offers Waffles, Overwhelming Air Superiority”
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/39674

By: Scott Spiegelberg

Scott Spiegelberg — Wed, 05 Apr 2006 19:49:01 +0000

To #29, Guinness and Harp is a half-and-half.

By: tom

tom — Wed, 05 Apr 2006 19:18:01 +0000

Cripes, it’s only noon here and now I’m seriously craving both beer and ice cream!! Shouldn’t have read this thread…