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	<description>Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made</description>
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		<title>By: Bob B</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/04/08/just-how-bad-is-italy/comment-page-1/#comment-151013</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 20:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know little about Italy or the World Bank&#039;s ranking of the effectiveness of Italy&#039;s legal system. By long-standing repute in Europe, Italy has unusually dodgy politics:

&quot;Last year [2003], Italy&#039;s highest court acquitted Mr Andreotti of charges [that] he ordered the Mafia killing of a journalist in 1979, in a separate Mafia-related case.&quot;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3746322.stm

That is fortunate as it would have added an extra dimension: Mr Andreotti served as prime minister seven times and is now a life senator. Another past prime minister was not so fortunate:
 
&quot;Former Italian prime minister Bettino Craxi, who has died in Tunisia aged 65, was a key figure in post-war Italian politics and the upheaval of the bribery scandals of the early 1990s which sent him out of power. 

&quot;He was Italy&#039;s longest-serving post-war prime minister, heading two successive administrations between 1983 and 1987, a remarkable achievement in a country known for a high turnover of governments.&quot;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/610659.stm

As for Italy&#039;s economy, this OECD Economic Survey of Italy 2005: Policy Brief is illuminating on the main issues:
http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/21/40/34882431.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I know little about Italy or the World Bank&#8217;s ranking of the effectiveness of Italy&#8217;s legal system. By long-standing repute in Europe, Italy has unusually dodgy politics:</p>

	<p>&#8220;Last year [2003], Italy&#8217;s highest court acquitted Mr Andreotti of charges [that] he ordered the Mafia killing of a journalist in 1979, in a separate Mafia-related case.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3746322.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3746322.stm</a></p>

	<p>That is fortunate as it would have added an extra dimension: Mr Andreotti served as prime minister seven times and is now a life senator. Another past prime minister was not so fortunate:</p>

	<p>&#8220;Former Italian prime minister Bettino Craxi, who has died in Tunisia aged 65, was a key figure in post-war Italian politics and the upheaval of the bribery scandals of the early 1990s which sent him out of power.</p>

	<p>&#8220;He was Italy&#8217;s longest-serving post-war prime minister, heading two successive administrations between 1983 and 1987, a remarkable achievement in a country known for a high turnover of governments.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/610659.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/610659.stm</a></p>

	<p>As for Italy&#8217;s economy, this <span class="caps">OECD </span>Economic Survey of Italy 2005: Policy Brief is illuminating on the main issues:<br />
<a href="http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/21/40/34882431.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/21/40/34882431.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Seth Edenbaum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth Edenbaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Claudio Magris, from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.signandsight.com/intodaysfeuilletons/702.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;same source&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;In an interview with Henning Klüver, author and journalist Claudio Magris explains Silvio Berlusconi&#039;s recipe for success with an example: &quot;We had a family living above us, the typical Mr and Mrs Clean. They kept their home spic and span, but threw their trash onto the street. If there&#039;d been a genocide in our stairwell they couldn&#039;t have cared less. (...) For years this social strata was controlled on the one hand by the Democrazia Cristina, and on the other by the Italian Communist Party and the unions. It was never its own free political subject. Then Berlusconi came along and declared: you are a subject, free to vote for me! In doing so he pulled out every stop, violated all the rules of decency and brought about this strange cultural climate which is frightening even so many of his own people. These are the people we should address. It was a major mistake of the Left just to show them scorn.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I last line rings true for my own stupid country</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Claudio Magris, from the <a href="http://www.signandsight.com/intodaysfeuilletons/702.html" rel="nofollow">same source</a><blockquote>In an interview with Henning Kl&#252;ver, author and journalist Claudio Magris explains Silvio Berlusconi&#8217;s recipe for success with an example: &#8220;We had a family living above us, the typical Mr and Mrs Clean. They kept their home spic and span, but threw their trash onto the street. If there&#8217;d been a genocide in our stairwell they couldn&#8217;t have cared less. (&#8230;) For years this social strata was controlled on the one hand by the Democrazia Cristina, and on the other by the Italian Communist Party and the unions. It was never its own free political subject. Then Berlusconi came along and declared: you are a subject, free to vote for me! In doing so he pulled out every stop, violated all the rules of decency and brought about this strange cultural climate which is frightening even so many of his own people. These are the people we should address. It was a major mistake of the Left just to show them scorn.&#8221;</blockquote></p>

	<p>I last line rings true for my own stupid country</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a great site, and you have to love the pun on &lt;em&gt;Sein und Zeit&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It is a great site, and you have to love the pun on <em>Sein und Zeit</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: Kappelmeister</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/04/08/just-how-bad-is-italy/comment-page-1/#comment-151006</link>
		<dc:creator>Kappelmeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 17:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone point me to the source of these statistics - the 2004 World Bank publication? It may be profitable to scrutinize their statistics and see exactly what method produced them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Can anyone point me to the source of these statistics &#8211; the 2004 World Bank publication? It may be profitable to scrutinize their statistics and see exactly what method produced them.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not entirely true Otto. Brussels&#039; powers are limited, but they can restrain the Italian government in certain respects. See further Vincent della Sala, &quot;Hollowing Out and Hardening the State: European Integration and the Italian Economy,&quot; West European Politics (1997)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Not entirely true Otto. Brussels&#8217; powers are limited, but they can restrain the Italian government in certain respects. See further Vincent della Sala, &#8220;Hollowing Out and Hardening the State: European Integration and the Italian Economy,&#8221; West European Politics (1997)</p>
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		<title>By: otto</title>
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		<dc:creator>otto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 13:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea that there&#039;s something Brussels can do about this is the rather charming delusion of this interesting piece. It means nothing more than, I call upon Apollo in our hour of need!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The idea that there&#8217;s something Brussels can do about this is the rather charming delusion of this interesting piece. It means nothing more than, I call upon Apollo in our hour of need!</p>
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