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		<title>By: djw</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/04/12/exquisitely-mean/comment-page-2/#comment-151603</link>
		<dc:creator>djw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 06:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and Kael on The Sound of Music and Hiroshima Mon Amour. When I watched the latter after reading the review, I honestly felt like I might have kinda enjoyed it had I not previously read that review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oh, and Kael on The Sound of Music and Hiroshima Mon Amour. When I watched the latter after reading the review, I honestly felt like I might have kinda enjoyed it had I not previously read that review.</p>
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		<title>By: djw</title>
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		<dc:creator>djw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 06:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering when someone would get to Barry on Nozick. Continuing in that vein, Okin on Sandel was pretty classic. Someone in the NYTBR on some Vidal doorstop a few years ago was gloriously fierce for the usually tepid venue. &quot;I felt as though someone was braying in my ear...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I was wondering when someone would get to Barry on Nozick. Continuing in that vein, Okin on Sandel was pretty classic. Someone in the <span class="caps">NYTBR</span> on some Vidal doorstop a few years ago was gloriously fierce for the usually tepid venue. &#8220;I felt as though someone was braying in my ear&#8230;&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Matt Weiner</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/04/12/exquisitely-mean/comment-page-2/#comment-151599</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Weiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wcw, maybe you would enjoy Evan Parker&#039;s solo soprano saxophone recordings? They often sound like several saxophones being played at once, or a few hundred played at once. If asked for a record akin to the dog-with-100-legs picture, that&#039;d definitely be my pick. 

Ditto to Jay Smooth about &quot;purely cerebral,&quot; except I also find it an incredibly inapt description of &lt;i&gt;Ascension&lt;/i&gt;. &quot;So intense it&#039;s hard to take&quot; is what I&#039;d say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>wcw, maybe you would enjoy Evan Parker&#8217;s solo soprano saxophone recordings? They often sound like several saxophones being played at once, or a few hundred played at once. If asked for a record akin to the dog-with-100-legs picture, that&#8217;d definitely be my pick.</p>

	<p>Ditto to Jay Smooth about &#8220;purely cerebral,&#8221; except I also find it an incredibly inapt description of <i>Ascension</i>. &#8220;So intense it&#8217;s hard to take&#8221; is what I&#8217;d say.</p>
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		<title>By: ArC</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/04/12/exquisitely-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-151586</link>
		<dc:creator>ArC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 04:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Downmarket?  Well, let me further lower the discourse by suggesting some of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mrcranky.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mr. Cranky&#039;s&lt;/a&gt; best.  Unfortunately, they&#039;ve been taken offline to push the sales of the book.  Actually, I suppose they also fail the &quot;deserving target&quot; test.

What about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nypress.com/18/16/news&amp;columns/taibbi.cfm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Matt Taibbi&#039;s review&lt;/a&gt; of Friedman&#039;s &quot;The World is Flat&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Downmarket?  Well, let me further lower the discourse by suggesting some of <a href="http://www.mrcranky.com/" rel="nofollow">Mr. Cranky&#8217;s</a> best.  Unfortunately, they&#8217;ve been taken offline to push the sales of the book.  Actually, I suppose they also fail the &#8220;deserving target&#8221; test.</p>

	<p>What about <a href="http://www.nypress.com/18/16/news&#038;columns/taibbi.cfm" rel="nofollow">Matt Taibbi&#8217;s review</a> of Friedman&#8217;s &#8220;The World is Flat&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Farber</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/04/12/exquisitely-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-151567</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Farber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 00:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m partial to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sff.net/people/doylemacdonald/reviews.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Red Mike&lt;/a&gt;, aka Jim Macdonald, and particularly his review of the movie of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sff.net/people/doylemacdonald/r_startro.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Starship Troopers&lt;/a&gt;.

Many of Roger Ebert&#039;s 0 Stars reviews are also good.  I realize these are a bit downmarket compared to some of the other suggestions. (Find Ebert&#039;s by going &lt;a href=&quot;http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/classifieds?category=search&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, and plugging in &quot;zero&quot; and &quot;zero&quot; into &quot;from&quot; and &quot;to&quot; in the stars pull-down.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;m partial to <a href="http://www.sff.net/people/doylemacdonald/reviews.htm" rel="nofollow">Red Mike</a>, aka Jim Macdonald, and particularly his review of the movie of <a href="http://www.sff.net/people/doylemacdonald/r_startro.htm" rel="nofollow">Starship Troopers</a>.</p>

	<p>Many of Roger Ebert&#8217;s 0 Stars reviews are also good.  I realize these are a bit downmarket compared to some of the other suggestions. (Find Ebert&#8217;s by going <a href="http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/classifieds?category=search" rel="nofollow">here</a>, and plugging in &#8220;zero&#8221; and &#8220;zero&#8221; into &#8220;from&#8221; and &#8220;to&#8221; in the stars pull-down.)</p>
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		<title>By: anand sarwate</title>
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		<dc:creator>anand sarwate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 22:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gian-Carlo Rota, a mathematician, had a number of trenchant reviews.  One, if I recall, was that the book &quot;filled a much-needed gap in the literature.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Gian-Carlo Rota, a mathematician, had a number of trenchant reviews.  One, if I recall, was that the book &#8220;filled a much-needed gap in the literature.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: arb</title>
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		<dc:creator>arb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 19:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee Siegel&#039;s Nation review of the latest Camille Paglia book was pretty mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Lee Siegel&#8217;s Nation review of the latest Camille Paglia book was pretty mean.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob T. Levy</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/04/12/exquisitely-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-151509</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob T. Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Repeating what I posted on the original thread: Barry on Nozick, Nussbaum on Butler, Berkowitz on Singer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Repeating what I posted on the original thread: Barry on Nozick, Nussbaum on Butler, Berkowitz on Singer.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Smooth</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/04/12/exquisitely-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-151492</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Smooth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>De gustibus non est disputandum, but I can&#039;t imagine a less apt description of Miles and Trane than &quot;purely cerebral,&quot; unless it refers to the very late Coltrane works like &lt;i&gt;Ascension&lt;/i&gt;. 

Other than those few exceptions, their discographies have probably the most intense emotional resonance I&#039;ve ever experienced in music. Especially Coltrane whose work is, to many fans, best known for how it evokes and embodies his lifelong quest for a deeper spirituality.

Also, conveying emotion via music involves the melody and harmony at least as much as the beat.. but Miles and Trane usually had plenty of swing going on regardless, no less than Duke to my ears.

I&#039;m just thankful Larkin never got around to opining on hip-hop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>De gustibus non est disputandum, but I can&#8217;t imagine a less apt description of Miles and Trane than &#8220;purely cerebral,&#8221; unless it refers to the very late Coltrane works like <i>Ascension</i>.</p>

	<p>Other than those few exceptions, their discographies have probably the most intense emotional resonance I&#8217;ve ever experienced in music. Especially Coltrane whose work is, to many fans, best known for how it evokes and embodies his lifelong quest for a deeper spirituality.</p>

	<p>Also, conveying emotion via music involves the melody and harmony at least as much as the beat.. but Miles and Trane usually had plenty of swing going on regardless, no less than Duke to my ears.</p>

	<p>I&#8217;m just thankful Larkin never got around to opining on hip-hop.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Gowder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Gowder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooh.  Oooh.  One more.  (Sorry for the multiple posts, I&#039;ll stop now.)  Jules Coleman &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yalelawjournal.org/archive_abstract.asp?id=253&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;shredding&lt;/a&gt; Kaplow and Shavell in the Yale Law Journal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oooh.  Oooh.  One more.  (Sorry for the multiple posts, I&#8217;ll stop now.)  Jules Coleman <a href="http://www.yalelawjournal.org/archive_abstract.asp?id=253" rel="nofollow">shredding</a> Kaplow and Shavell in the Yale Law Journal.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Gowder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Gowder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whoops, the last comment beat me to it.  Well, then, I&#039;ll offer &lt;a href=&quot;http://englishhistory.net/byron/poems/doctor.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dear Doctor, I Read Your Play&lt;/a&gt; (Byron), which, the legend goes, was Byron&#039;s suggestion for a rejection letter to his publisher.  

Or, for that matter, the entire dedication of Byron&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.geocities.com/~bblair/dedication.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Don Juan&lt;/a&gt;, which tears holes in pretty much all of his contemporaries, and BRUTALIZES Southey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>whoops, the last comment beat me to it.  Well, then, I&#8217;ll offer <a href="http://englishhistory.net/byron/poems/doctor.html" rel="nofollow">Dear Doctor, I Read Your Play</a> (Byron), which, the legend goes, was Byron&#8217;s suggestion for a rejection letter to his publisher.</p>

	<p>Or, for that matter, the entire dedication of Byron&#8217;s <a href="http://www.geocities.com/~bblair/dedication.htm" rel="nofollow">Don Juan</a>, which tears holes in pretty much all of his contemporaries, and <span class="caps">BRUTALIZES </span>Southey.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Gowder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Gowder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon, what about Dorothy Parker&#039;s classic reviews?  The one of A. A. Milne&#039;s The House at Pooh Corner?    tonstant weader fwowed up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>C&#8217;mon, what about Dorothy Parker&#8217;s classic reviews?  The one of A. A. Milne&#8217;s The House at Pooh Corner?    tonstant weader fwowed up?</p>
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		<title>By: schwa</title>
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		<dc:creator>schwa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s hard to believe that any discussion of vicious book reviews has made it this far without even &lt;i&gt;mentioning&lt;/i&gt; Dorothy Parker. I don&#039;t know which of hers I&#039;d put up (maybe &quot;Tonstant Weader Fwowed Up&quot;), but she should certainly be in there.

Speaking of Gingrich, the best filleting of his intellectual dilletantism I&#039;ve ever read -- and which, if you stretched the definition, could be called a review essay -- is Joan Didion&#039;s &quot;Newt Gingrich, Superstar&quot;, which is reprinted in her book &lt;i&gt;Political Fictions&lt;/i&gt;.

As for Peck, I rolled my eyes and ignored the squalls which passed through the chattering classes when the infamous Rick Moody review was published, and gritted my teeth and reached for the gin when it was all repeated on the publication of &lt;i&gt;Hatchet Jobs&lt;/i&gt;, so I freely confess to a distorted perspective, but it seems to me that he&#039;s now retreated so far up his own arse, transforming his attitude to all fiction into that of a petulant, nihilistic child (see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.themorningnews.org/tob/match14.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; for a timely example), that his entire critical oeuvre has been retroactively discredited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It&#8217;s hard to believe that any discussion of vicious book reviews has made it this far without even <i>mentioning</i> Dorothy Parker. I don&#8217;t know which of hers I&#8217;d put up (maybe &#8220;Tonstant Weader Fwowed Up&#8221;), but she should certainly be in there.</p>

	<p>Speaking of Gingrich, the best filleting of his intellectual dilletantism I&#8217;ve ever read&#8212;and which, if you stretched the definition, could be called a review essay&#8212;is Joan Didion&#8217;s &#8220;Newt Gingrich, Superstar&#8221;, which is reprinted in her book <i>Political Fictions</i>.</p>

	<p>As for Peck, I rolled my eyes and ignored the squalls which passed through the chattering classes when the infamous Rick Moody review was published, and gritted my teeth and reached for the gin when it was all repeated on the publication of <i>Hatchet Jobs</i>, so I freely confess to a distorted perspective, but it seems to me that he&#8217;s now retreated so far up his own arse, transforming his attitude to all fiction into that of a petulant, nihilistic child (see <a href="http://www.themorningnews.org/tob/match14.php" rel="nofollow">here</a> for a timely example), that his entire critical oeuvre has been retroactively discredited.</p>
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		<title>By: soru</title>
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		<dc:creator>soru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading the Eagleton review, I think I have worked out why post-colonialist theorists write the way they do.

It is an attempt to show the reader what it would subjectively feel like to read, say, Orwell, not only in a foreign language, but having missed 6 years of education due to having been captured as a sex slave by a gang of child soldiers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Reading the Eagleton review, I think I have worked out why post-colonialist theorists write the way they do.</p>

	<p>It is an attempt to show the reader what it would subjectively feel like to read, say, Orwell, not only in a foreign language, but having missed 6 years of education due to having been captured as a sex slave by a gang of child soldiers.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Hurka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Hurka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larkin&#039;s comments on Davis and Coltrane have a larger context. He thought the greatest art has to appeal both to the emotions and to the intellect (as his own poetry so brilliantly does); in music that means combining beat and brains. The jazz of Armstrong and Bechet did that, but post-Parker jazz was purely cerebral. More generally, Larkin thought music in the later 20th century divided into brains without beat (post-Parker jazz) and beat without brains (rock &#039;n&#039; roll). More generally still, he saw all modernist art -- Picasso, Pound, etc. -- as directly purely to the intellect and therefore unsatisfying. Agree or not --maybe you like purely cerebral works -- it&#039;s a brilliant analysis of a distinctive feature of 20th-century art, across the genres, and you have to see it behind the specific comments on Davis and Coltrane.

As for the Burnyeat review, isn&#039;t it taking a sledgehammer to crush a flea? Robert Nozick put it much more pithily: Straussians are people who believe that the sum total of political wisdom is that only the wise should rule. Ouch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Larkin&#8217;s comments on Davis and Coltrane have a larger context. He thought the greatest art has to appeal both to the emotions and to the intellect (as his own poetry so brilliantly does); in music that means combining beat and brains. The jazz of Armstrong and Bechet did that, but post-Parker jazz was purely cerebral. More generally, Larkin thought music in the later 20th century divided into brains without beat (post-Parker jazz) and beat without brains (rock &#8216;n&#8217; roll). More generally still, he saw all modernist art&#8212;Picasso, Pound, etc.&#8212;as directly purely to the intellect and therefore unsatisfying. Agree or not&#8212;maybe you like purely cerebral works&#8212;it&#8217;s a brilliant analysis of a distinctive feature of 20th-century art, across the genres, and you have to see it behind the specific comments on Davis and Coltrane.</p>

	<p>As for the Burnyeat review, isn&#8217;t it taking a sledgehammer to crush a flea? Robert Nozick put it much more pithily: Straussians are people who believe that the sum total of political wisdom is that only the wise should rule. Ouch!</p>
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